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Would you take the job?

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Harkback Union
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Postby Harkback Union » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:04 am

I would take the job and then blow whistles.

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Faiv
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Postby Faiv » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:26 am

Harkback Union wrote:I would take the job and then blow whistles.


And never be employed again. :clap:

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Nazi Flower Power
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:27 am

Faiv wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:I would take the job and then blow whistles.


And never be employed again. :clap:


No, there are plenty of jobs he'd still be able to get. Just not at tobacco companies.
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Postby Faiv » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:30 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Faiv wrote:
And never be employed again. :clap:


No, there are plenty of jobs he'd still be able to get. Just not at tobacco companies.


I wouldn't want to hire a whistle blower if I ran a company. Would you? Probably not.
I mean every company would know his name and even if they approve his actions then they still wouldn't hire him. You never can be sure if he's going to do something similar to your company.
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Postby Risottia » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:32 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:really?

the sale of an addictive and health-destroying products through the multiplication of addicts (many of whom come from economically disadvantaged backgrounds)?

Gotta say, it's a free choice. Few people get cigs shoved down their throat.

Basically this. It is a moral dilemma as much as working for a company that makes firearms, wine, sugar or IC engines. That is, not.
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Nazi Flower Power
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:36 am

Faiv wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
No, there are plenty of jobs he'd still be able to get. Just not at tobacco companies.


I wouldn't want to hire a whistle blower if I ran a company. Would you? Probably not.
I mean every company would know his name and even if they approve his actions then they still wouldn't hire him. You never can be sure if he's going to do something similar to your company.


Depends what my company is and what I'm hiring him to do.

Supposing you're a non-profit in the anti-tobacco lobby?

Or supposing your company has nothing to hide? Maybe you need a chef and he's a good cook? There are so many ways he'd still be able to find work if he was serious about finding work.
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Postby Faiv » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:44 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Faiv wrote:
I wouldn't want to hire a whistle blower if I ran a company. Would you? Probably not.
I mean every company would know his name and even if they approve his actions then they still wouldn't hire him. You never can be sure if he's going to do something similar to your company.


Depends what my company is and what I'm hiring him to do.

Supposing you're a non-profit in the anti-tobacco lobby?

Or supposing your company has nothing to hide? Maybe you need a chef and he's a good cook? There are so many ways he'd still be able to find work if he was serious about finding work.


Well I guess anti-tobacco lobby group would be the only option.

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Postby Vissegaard » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:45 am

Of course. I don't have to smoke, I just have to make people smoke.
Therefore, my health is not harmed and it's perfectly okay.
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Postby Allanea » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:48 am

Of course I would take it.

I don't see anything wrong with selling tobacco, and I prefer tobacco companies to the anti-tobacco crusader side.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:50 am

Why the fuck to they want to employ me? I'm 13- I'm not even legally old enough to be employed.
Those are some silly CEOs. I'd happily take the job.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:51 am

Faiv wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Depends what my company is and what I'm hiring him to do.

Supposing you're a non-profit in the anti-tobacco lobby?

Or supposing your company has nothing to hide? Maybe you need a chef and he's a good cook? There are so many ways he'd still be able to find work if he was serious about finding work.


Well I guess anti-tobacco lobby group would be the only option.


You really think a restaurant that isn't doing anything illegal is going to give a crap if their chef used to be a whistle blower at some tobacco company? Or did you just run out of reading juice before you got to the end of my post?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:12 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Faiv wrote:
Well I guess anti-tobacco lobby group would be the only option.


You really think a restaurant that isn't doing anything illegal is going to give a crap if their chef used to be a whistle blower at some tobacco company? Or did you just run out of reading juice before you got to the end of my post?


:rofl:

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Postby Indira » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:27 am

If they are stupid enough to hire me straight into management based on a single essay, then hell yes, I would take the job.

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Postby Alcase » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:36 am

I absolutely abhor anything that has to do with tobacco, so no; I wouldn't take the job.
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Postby Simply Tyrone » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:48 am

No, giving the fact that new weed companies will be taking over them soon, and now I'll have to smell pot wherever I go.
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Postby Jute » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:51 am

If it's management, maybe I could try to shut down the tobacco sector and convert the production into something more healthy, like gluten-free apple snacks? :P
Risottia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Gotta say, it's a free choice. Few people get cigs shoved down their throat.

Basically this. It is a moral dilemma as much as working for a company that makes firearms, wine, sugar or IC engines. That is, not.

Except those things have legitimate purposes. What good has tobacco ever done?
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Postby Faiv » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:54 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Faiv wrote:
Well I guess anti-tobacco lobby group would be the only option.


You really think a restaurant that isn't doing anything illegal is going to give a crap if their chef used to be a whistle blower at some tobacco company? Or did you just run out of reading juice before you got to the end of my post?


No. Your example was illogical. I don't think many chefs have ran tobacco companies or I'm wrong?

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Postby Simply Tyrone » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:54 am

Jute wrote:If it's management, maybe I could try to shut down the tobacco sector and convert the production into something more healthy, like gluten-free apple snacks? :P
Risottia wrote:Basically this. It is a moral dilemma as much as working for a company that makes firearms, wine, sugar or IC engines. That is, not.

Except those things have legitimate purposes. What good has tobacco ever done?


Helped a lot of people from imminent stress. That's basically it.
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Postby Jute » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:55 am

Simply Tyrone wrote:
Jute wrote:If it's management, maybe I could try to shut down the tobacco sector and convert the production into something more healthy, like gluten-free apple snacks? :P

Except those things have legitimate purposes. What good has tobacco ever done?


Helped a lot of people from imminent stress. That's basically it.

And often caused more stress in the long run... so not really good at that either, I guess?
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
"Boys and girls so happy, young and gay / Don't let false worldly joy carry your hearts away."

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:55 am

Hell yes I would.
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Postby Murkwood » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:55 am

Saiwania wrote:It seems like a good deal to me. I'd take it if I was able to still be in a smoke free environment and not ever smoke. Heh, the irony. A non-smoker leading a tobacco company. :p

Probably more common than you think.
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Postby Simply Tyrone » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:56 am

Jute wrote:
Simply Tyrone wrote:
Helped a lot of people from imminent stress. That's basically it.

And often caused more stress in the long run... so not really good at that either, I guess?


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Postby Jute » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:56 am

Murkwood wrote:
Saiwania wrote:It seems like a good deal to me. I'd take it if I was able to still be in a smoke free environment and not ever smoke. Heh, the irony. A non-smoker leading a tobacco company. :p

Probably more common than you think.

They probably know best about the dangers of their products, too.
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
"Boys and girls so happy, young and gay / Don't let false worldly joy carry your hearts away."

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:58 am

Yes, if people want to smoke it's up to them. I smoke the odd cigar myself.
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Postby Greater Franco-Iberia » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:08 am

Yes. Money is everything, give me money. This is a "free" country ('Murcia) and we citizens have the choice on whether or not we want to kill ourselves. Its not a good idea, but if you want to die slowly of lung cancer or heart disease then, as previously stated, that is your choice.
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