Transgender woman correctly buried as man?

[Ethel mermania]

People are not monolithic creatures, we change as we age. Who we are when we die is not who we are as we grow. We choose the memories we hold on to. If your kid dies at 26 from drug overdose, is that the memory your going to keep of him/her? No, your going to remember and grieve overy the smiling high school graduate, with a bright future ahead of them.

Actually, I would remember both. Because that simply is who the person was.

That's fair, and that's your choice.

[Herskerstad]

People are not monolithic creatures, we change as we age. Who we are when we die is not who we are as we grow. We choose the memories we hold on to. If your kid dies at 26 from drug overdose, is that the memory your going to keep of him/her? No, your going to remember and grieve overy the smiling high school graduate, with a bright future ahead of them.

religion and gender are much like hardcore drugs

Just wait until we get otherkinism as a legislative issue.

[Immoren]

religion and gender are much like hardcore drugs

Just wait until we get otherkinism as a legislative issue.

By the Nine.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

religion and gender are much like hardcore drugs

Just wait until we get otherkinism as a legislative issue.

Nah if we sort out non-binary genders it will be just a detail

[Grenartia]

Funerals are for the living not the dead. It matters that much to him, he can make the arrangements.

What exactly do the living get out of distorting the memory of the deceased ?

That's exactly my question. Why the fuck do the living get to whitewash history? What gain do they get from lying to themselves any everybody else about the deceased?

I get that. But why burn a fantasy image of the dead they themselves would abhor ? How can that give closure - if you cannot even acknowledge who is gone ?

People are not monolithic creatures, we change as we age. Who we are when we die is not who we are as we grow. We choose the memories we hold on to. If your kid dies at 26 from drug overdose, is that the memory your going to keep of him/her? No, your going to remember and grieve overy the smiling high school graduate, with a bright future ahead of them.

Ignoring that being transgender, or converting religions, is nothing like a drug overdose, I actually fail to see the justification for whitewashing an OD, as well. You're just sweeping the problem under the rug by doing that. Making it easier for those who are living to repeat the deceased's mistakes.

religion and gender are much like hardcore drugs

Just wait until we get otherkinism as a legislative issue.

Apples and footballs.

[The New World Oceania]

People are not monolithic creatures, we change as we age. Who we are when we die is not who we are as we grow. We choose the memories we hold on to. If your kid dies at 26 from drug overdose, is that the memory your going to keep of him/her? No, your going to remember and grieve overy the smiling high school graduate, with a bright future ahead of them.

Ignoring that being transgender, or converting religions, is nothing like a drug overdose, I actually fail to see the justification for whitewashing an OD, as well. You're just sweeping the problem under the rug by doing that. Making it easier for those who are living to repeat the deceased's mistakes.

Likewise, when someone commits suicide the funeral-goers don't ignore it and say the deceased accidentally drank a glass of nembutal. There's a requirement for a deacon discussing how awful an occasion it is and how we must prevent this in the future, but what a nice young man he was before he [euphemism for death].

[Divitaen]

I get that. But why burn a fantasy image of the dead they themselves would abhor ? How can that give closure - if you cannot even acknowledge who is gone ?

People are not monolithic creatures, we change as we age. Who we are when we die is not who we are as we grow. We choose the memories we hold on to. If your kid dies at 26 from drug overdose, is that the memory your going to keep of him/her? No, your going to remember and grieve overy the smiling high school graduate, with a bright future ahead of them.

How is that a relevant comparison? These people go through an identity crisis because who they are doesn't match the sex they were assigned to at birth. If you had any sensitivity for the struggle of trans individuals you would recognise, at death, the sex or gender that the person strongly identifies with, not the one the parent imposes. A better parallel would be parents imposing their career wishes and ambitions on their child - if its not who your kid is, stop pretending!

[Ethel mermania]

People are not monolithic creatures, we change as we age. Who we are when we die is not who we are as we grow. We choose the memories we hold on to. If your kid dies at 26 from drug overdose, is that the memory your going to keep of him/her? No, your going to remember and grieve overy the smiling high school graduate, with a bright future ahead of them.

How is that a relevant comparison? These people go through an identity crisis because who they are doesn't match the sex they were assigned to at birth. If you had any sensitivity for the struggle of trans individuals you would recognise, at death, the sex or gender that the person strongly identifies with, not the one the parent imposes. A better parallel would be parents imposing their career wishes and ambitions on their child - if its not who your kid is, stop pretending!

To this particular set of idaho parents either unfortunately is a painful truth. The parents were obviously uncomfortable with the kids desires. They are going to remember their child in a way they are capable of, no matter how much we would like more from them. They didn't have to go to the expense of burying the kid, they could have let the city dispose of the body.

[Divitaen]

How is that a relevant comparison? These people go through an identity crisis because who they are doesn't match the sex they were assigned to at birth. If you had any sensitivity for the struggle of trans individuals you would recognise, at death, the sex or gender that the person strongly identifies with, not the one the parent imposes. A better parallel would be parents imposing their career wishes and ambitions on their child - if its not who your kid is, stop pretending!

To this particular set of idaho parents either unfortunately is a painful truth. The parents were obviously uncomfortable with the kids desires. They are going to remember their child in a way they are capable of, no matter how much we would like more from them. They didn't have to go to the expense of burying the kid, they could have let the city dispose of the body.

I get they wanted their daughter to not be trans but thats not the point, its her body, not theirs. She decided she was a female and her parents ought to respect that rather than tearing apart her identity at her funeral by claiming she was something that she was not to fit their own insecurities and desires.

[Grenartia]

To this particular set of idaho parents either unfortunately is a painful truth. The parents were obviously uncomfortable with the kids desires. They are going to remember their child in a way they are capable of, no matter how much we would like more from them. They didn't have to go to the expense of burying the kid, they could have let the city dispose of the body.

I get they wanted their daughter to not be trans but thats not the point, its her body, not theirs. She decided she was a female and her parents ought to respect that rather than tearing apart her identity at her funeral by claiming she was something that she was not to fit their own insecurities and desires.

Exactly. People shouldn't be allowed to whitewash the deceased's gender identity just because they "don't like it".