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Vashta Nerada
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Postby Vashta Nerada » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:40 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:Who said I'm running. And as far as I'm concerned, if the family wanted to cremate him and scatter his ashes over a cemetery of dead puppies, I still wouldn't care. I can say what I want because the law here says so. I can leave when I want how I want. Do your research and prove me wrong, and then whine to me about dishonesty.

you have to prove yourself right first.

Why would I need to prove myself right if your the one saying I'm wrong? Surely if you know I'm wrong, you can prove that. Yet, seeing as have you haven't, and you have yet to say what I need to prove. The "lovely fellow" above said I've been dodging requests to provide sources, yet I've responded to virtually every question I've read. I'm not surfing through 26 pages of nonsense to answer two requests I may have missed. If you want an answer, burden for what source you want falls on you, not me. Giving me vague answers will be returned with equally vague sources.
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Postby Anglo-California » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:40 pm

I demand to be buried as a hamster so I can frolic around in the Great Hamster Wheel of the 11th Hell.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:40 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
Liriena wrote:

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...I'm sorry. Was I supposed to laugh at that?

Yes, you were. I know I did.

Of course you did. It makes sense that you'd laugh at mockery and misgendering.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:41 pm

Anglo-California wrote:I demand to be buried as a hamster so I can frolic around in the Great Hamster Wheel of the 11th Hell.

Static furry rodents in their usually loud cages is not a good memory :(
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Postby Liriena » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:42 pm

Anglo-California wrote:I demand to be buried as a hamster so I can frolic around in the Great Hamster Wheel of the 11th Hell.

I'm okay with that.

What colour of hamster?
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Postby Anglo-California » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:42 pm

Liriena wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:Yes, you were. I know I did.

Of course you did. It makes sense that you'd laugh at mockery and misgendering.


People laugh at deaths here all of the time, whether it was Mandela's, Thatcher's, or this person's. It was just a pun. I'm sure you aren't too bothered by it.
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Postby Anglo-California » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:43 pm

Liriena wrote:
Anglo-California wrote:I demand to be buried as a hamster so I can frolic around in the Great Hamster Wheel of the 11th Hell.

I'm okay with that.

What colour of hamster?


ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Liriena » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:43 pm

Anglo-California wrote:
Liriena wrote:Of course you did. It makes sense that you'd laugh at mockery and misgendering.


People laugh at deaths here all of the time, whether it was Mandela's, Thatcher's, or this person's. It was just a pun. I'm sure you aren't too bothered by it.

I'm not bothered by the pun. I'm bothered by the quotation marks around she. It implies that the user who made the joke didn't agree with the woman's gender identity.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:44 pm

Anglo-California wrote:
Liriena wrote:I'm okay with that.

What colour of hamster?


ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lovely choice. :3
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I am:
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Political compass stuff:
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For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
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Postby Anglo-California » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:44 pm

Liriena wrote:
Anglo-California wrote:
People laugh at deaths here all of the time, whether it was Mandela's, Thatcher's, or this person's. It was just a pun. I'm sure you aren't too bothered by it.

I'm not bothered by the pun. I'm bothered by the quotation marks around she. It implies that the user who made the joke didn't agree with the woman's gender identity.


Well, that's not my area of expertise, so I have no comment.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:45 pm

Anglo-California wrote:People laugh at deaths here all of the time, whether it was Mandela's, Thatcher's, or this person's. It was just a pun. I'm sure you aren't too bothered by it.

This person is quite innocent, and was oppressed at that very moment.

Mandela's comparisons to that American actor who is used as a token against anti-racism and is only not more ludicrous than Pelé were not really funny.

Thatcher's mockery is deserved.
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Postby Anglo-California » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:45 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Anglo-California wrote:I demand to be buried as a hamster so I can frolic around in the Great Hamster Wheel of the 11th Hell.

Static furry rodents in their usually loud cages is not a good memory :(


My sister had a few hamsters. They bugged the crap out of me by running on their wheels all night long. I was glad when they died.
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Postby Anglo-California » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:46 pm

Liriena wrote:
Anglo-California wrote:
ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lovely choice. :3


Just don't mistake me for a cheeto.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:46 pm

Anglo-California wrote:My sister had a few hamsters. They bugged the crap out of me by running on their wheels all night long. I was glad when they died.

*electricity onomatopoeia-like noises*
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:46 pm

Anglo-California wrote:I demand to be buried as a hamster so I can frolic around in the Great Hamster Wheel of the 11th Hell.


Pfffft, burials. I demand to be given a Viking's funeral after death.

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Postby Anglo-California » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:47 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Anglo-California wrote:My sister had a few hamsters. They bugged the crap out of me by running on their wheels all night long. I was glad when they died.

*electricity onomatopoeia-like noises*


*backs away slowly*
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:47 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:
Anglo-California wrote:I demand to be buried as a hamster so I can frolic around in the Great Hamster Wheel of the 11th Hell.

Pfffft, burials. I demand to be given a Viking's funeral after death.

I want to become fertilizer. '-'
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

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Postby Vashta Nerada » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:49 pm

Liriena wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:Who said I'm running.

I did. Just now.

From what? It certainly can't be you or anyone else. I'm certainly not running from a computer I use in the safety of my own home. So I can't possibly be running away.

Liriena wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:And as far as I'm concerned, if the family wanted to cremate him and scatter his ashes over a cemetery of dead puppies, I still wouldn't care.

Good for you. It'd be nice if you had the decency to refer to her by the proper pronouns, though.

I used the proper pronoun. Him. He. His. There we go. Proper pronouns.

Liriena wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:I can say what I want because the law here says so.

So?

Yeah, you have the right to express your opinion. Nobody has told you otherwise, least of all me. What's the point of that sentence?

You said that I do get to "run away", and I'm telling you right now I can go anywhere on this site I wish too, regardless of your misguided sense of moral superiority.

Liriena wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:I can leave when I want how I want.

You can, but not without consequence. Namely, being perceived as craven, on top of proudly transphobic.

I'm not afraid of a man who wanted to be a woman. His dead and gone. I'm not going to hid in a corner and cry because transsexuals are moving in the neighborhood. If you've got an issue with that, tough.

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Vashta Nerada wrote:Do your research and prove me wrong, and then whine to me about dishonesty.

I'm not the one who needs to do his research, my sweet, sweet Vashta Nerada. After all, you are the one who has demonstrated a remarkable lack of understanding of gender identity issues.

But, hey, if you want to be pedantic, you have every right to be that way.

According to your limited understanding of me. Please, don't insult my intelligence because I refuse to bow to your inability to use Google. I'm not going to hold your hand and show you every single article you demand because your either to inept to too lazy to do so yourself. I choose not to look up all of the information because I assume that a mature adult such as yourself would understandable find your way across the internet to fact-check the very statements I'm making. If you don't believe what I'm saying, then you should make the effort to prove me wrong.
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Postby Vashta Nerada » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:50 pm

Liriena wrote:
Anglo-California wrote:
People laugh at deaths here all of the time, whether it was Mandela's, Thatcher's, or this person's. It was just a pun. I'm sure you aren't too bothered by it.

I'm not bothered by the pun. I'm bothered by the quotation marks around she. It implies that the user who made the joke didn't agree with the woman's gender identity.

If that's what bothers you, then clearly you have nothing else better to do with your time and energy.
You don't have to like me, and I certainly don't have to like you.
Also, please refer to me as Vespia. Don't know what I was smoking when I chose "Vashta Nerada".
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Postby Liriena » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:50 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:
Anglo-California wrote:I demand to be buried as a hamster so I can frolic around in the Great Hamster Wheel of the 11th Hell.


Pfffft, burials. I demand to be given a Viking's funeral after death.

I approve.
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An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
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Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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Postby Anglo-California » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:50 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:Pfffft, burials. I demand to be given a Viking's funeral after death.

I want to become fertilizer. '-'


You can become the dirt that I will use to build my monster struck arena in an environmentally sensitive area.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:52 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
Liriena wrote:I'm not bothered by the pun. I'm bothered by the quotation marks around she. It implies that the user who made the joke didn't agree with the woman's gender identity.

If that's what bothers you, then clearly you have nothing else better to do with your time and energy.


Well, admittedly, it IS a noble way to spend ones time and energy. We often build statues for people who do that in fact.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:54 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:you have to prove yourself right first.

Why would I need to prove myself right if your the one saying I'm wrong? Surely if you know I'm wrong, you can prove that. Yet, seeing as have you haven't, and you have yet to say what I need to prove. The fool above said I've been dodging requests to provide sources, yet I've responded to virtually every question I've read. I'm not surfing through 26 pages of nonsense to answer two requests I may have missed. If you want an answer, burden for what source you want falls on you, not me. Giving me vague answers will be returned with equally vague sources.


I've already explained to you why you have to prove yourself correct. But you're just going to be intellectually dishonest and ignore what I say when you can't figure out anyway to address it, aren't you?

Vashta Nerada wrote:I used the proper pronoun. Him. He. His. There we go. Proper pronouns.


Nope. She was a woman, and is entitled to be referred to by the proper pronouns, those pronouns being she/her/hers. Anything else is blatantly disrespectful, transphobic, trolling, and generally the calling card of people with no empathy or sense of basic human decency.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:56 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
Liriena wrote:I'm not bothered by the pun. I'm bothered by the quotation marks around she. It implies that the user who made the joke didn't agree with the woman's gender identity.

If that's what bothers you, then clearly you have nothing else better to do with your time and energy.

Right now? No. Are you trying to shame me or something? Right now, at 3 a.m. on a Monday, I have nothing better to do with my time and energy. My classes and midterms are over, and I'm too tired to read a novel. Right now, the most interesting (and least exhausting) thing I have to do is reading your nonsense... and the original Broadway cast recording of Stephen Sondheim's Pacific Overtures. "Please hello" is my favourite piece.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Coreyea » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:58 pm

Eleanor Ritas wrote:EDIT: The OP has been edited for necessary corrections. The OP's apologies for the original, and any misunderstandings that may (will) arise.


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/c ... 55600.html

A transgender woman who died in Florida was buried open casket as a man, in a suit with a man's haircut, and given the obituary of a man, listing the bank she worked at and the Church she went to as a child. It used the pronoun "him" for her.

Is that right?

A funeral is a ceremony to gather in love, honor, and respect for the people we cared about most. It doesn't have to be reduced to just a chance for us to be reminded that we are going to judgment by God and it is wrong for boys to wear panties. Honoring life was what the ceremony should have been about, an act of love and loss that should be about the deceased and their wishes.

The obituary was technically correct but managed to omit the vital facts, rather like a legal response. Her transgender status, or even the fact that she was a woman in the eyes of the person who knew her best (herself), was omitted. Her parents (or whoever made this decision) apparently would be ashamed by everyone knowing she was beautiful brave woman who made one of the most painful but profoundly truthful transformations that a person can undergo.

If they had buried her as a woman that would have been sacrificing their own wants just because they loved her, and that's what Jesus taught.

Anyway, that's the topic of discussion and my opinion. There is an obnoxious prick in a loud jacket watching this news story about this transgender woman with me as I write this, and he's telling me that we should "road trip to Florida, fill the trunk of the caddy with a shovel, a nice dress, and 200 kg of post-mortem Maybelline".

Btw, if anybody lives in Florida and would take a little money to put some makeup and hair products and leave them at a specific location at a specific time once a year, telegram.

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