Maoists place India 6th on Global Terrorism Index

[Parhe]

I believe the Mongolian Empire did employ terrorism, as example, at times purposely targeting civilians and letting a few survive to flee to the cities and report what were happening in hopes or creating fear and weakening resistance. I would imagine other sources of terrorism would exist in history.

[United Marxist Nations]

New Delhi: India has been ranked 6th in the Global Terrorism Index (GTI) report produced on the basis of data obtained and studied from the Global Terrorism Database (GTD) for the year 2013 by the Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP), which provides a comprehensive summary of the key global trends and patterns in terrorism over the last 14 years during 2000 and 2013.

IEP calculated the Global Terrorism Index (GTI) for India as 7.86 out of 10 with sixth rank only below the five worst terrorism-hit countries Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nigeria and Syria.

While the main reason assigned for the terrorism in these five countries is Islamist extremism but for India the main cause and threat is observed as violent communist activities.

The second edition of the Global Terrorism Index (GTI) report released on November 16 observed that terrorism increased in India by 70 per cent from 2012 to 2013, with the number of deaths increasing from 238 to 404 while the number of attacks increasing with 55 more in 2013 than 2012.

For the year 2013, the report notes 624 incidences to be the terrorist act in India responsible for 404 deaths and 719 injuries to the Indians that include police, private citizens, government servants and others.

It mentions May 25, 2013 attack in Chhattisgarh that killed 17 Congress men including Mahendra Karma, a powerful Congress tribal leader, as the worst terrorist attack in the country that was blamed on Communist Party of India – Maoists (CPI-M).

The report categorizes into three the number of 42 terrorist groups in the country: Islamists, separatists and Communists.

Source: http://twocircles.net/2014nov21/1416548 ... G-tt_mSyCn
What are your thoughts on this? I am personally happy that the Maoists are kicking bourgeois and land lord ass in India.

Hold on, you do realize that one of the big targets of the Naxalites have been Marxists, Marxist-Leninists, and various other Marxist groups, right?

[Tubbsalot]

Oh, the read headed step child of communistic ideology strikes again.

But seriously, few doctrines are asbackwards as Maoism and hopefully India will deal hardly with said rebels, until a general peace can be made that involves their disbandment.

How is getting rid of religious persecution and the caste system backwards? Please explain.

How does getting rid of religious persecution and the caste system have anything to do with Maoism? Any developed capitalist country would be trying to eradicate those as a priority.

[Risottia]

You need to be willing to be as violent as the oppressors or you will get nowhere. You can't expect peaceful demonstration when Indian police brutally crack down on protests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite

Circa 1971 the Naxalites gained a strong presence among the radical sections of the student movement in Calcutta.[19] Students left school to join the Naxalites. Majumdar, to entice more students into his organisation, declared that revolutionary warfare was to take place not only in the rural areas as before, but everywhere and spontaneously. Thus Majumdar declared an "annihilation line", a dictum that Naxalites should assassinate individual "class enemies" (such as landlords, businessmen, university teachers, police officers, politicians of the right and left) and others

"Class enemies" such as UNIVERSITY TEACHERS should be assassinated.

On 17 May, Naxals blew up a bus on Dantewda–Sukhma road in Chhattisgarh, killing 15 policemen and 20 civilians.

"Class enemies" such as 20 civilian bus passengers.

On 25 May 2013, Naxalites attacked a rally led by the Indian National Congress in Sukma village in Bastar, Chhattisgarh, killing about 29 people. They killed senior party leader Mahendra Karma and Nand Kumar Patel and his son while in the attack another senior party leader Vidya Charan Shukla was severely wounded and later succumbed to his injuries on the 11th June. See: 2013 Maoist attack in Darbha Valley

"Class enemies" such as centre-left politicians who had surrendered or had been captured.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Naxal ... bha_valley

Karma surrendered along with various other Congress leaders. Naxalites then asked Congress leaders there to identify him. Karma came forward and identified himself. Naxalites then took him away and beat him. They then stabbed him several times and sprayed him with bullets, and then beat him again about the head with the butts of their guns.

Following the attack, the Naxals abducted Patel, his son and few other leaders. Around 6 pm, they asked others to leave except Patel and his son. Their bodies were later recovered from the forest at the ambush site. Autopsy revealed that Dinesh Patel had an axe injury on his head and it led to his death. Nandkumar Patel was also stabbed multiple times and there were also bullet wounds.

I hope the Naxalites come to the natural end of their lives within the limits of a sturdy cell of a safe jail.

[Risottia]

Oh, the read headed step child of communistic ideology strikes again.

Oy! Quit the gingerism, you!

[Trevor Phillip Enterprises]

These Naxalite elements are terrorists, plain and simple.

[Inyourfaceistan]

Source: http://twocircles.net/2014nov21/1416548 ... G-tt_mSyCn
What are your thoughts on this? I am personally happy that the Maoists are kicking bourgeois and land lord ass in India.

I support the Indian government and people in their fight against these terrorists.

I also feel that if the Indian government requests help, the US and Russia should get over their differences and help their mutual friend defeat these murdering terrorists.

[Socialist Tera]

You need to be willing to be as violent as the oppressors or you will get nowhere. You can't expect peaceful demonstration when Indian police brutally crack down on protests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite

Circa 1971 the Naxalites gained a strong presence among the radical sections of the student movement in Calcutta.[19] Students left school to join the Naxalites. Majumdar, to entice more students into his organisation, declared that revolutionary warfare was to take place not only in the rural areas as before, but everywhere and spontaneously. Thus Majumdar declared an "annihilation line", a dictum that Naxalites should assassinate individual "class enemies" (such as landlords, businessmen, university teachers, police officers, politicians of the right and left) and others

"Class enemies" such as UNIVERSITY TEACHERS should be assassinated.

On 17 May, Naxals blew up a bus on Dantewda–Sukhma road in Chhattisgarh, killing 15 policemen and 20 civilians.

"Class enemies" such as 20 civilian bus passengers.

On 25 May 2013, Naxalites attacked a rally led by the Indian National Congress in Sukma village in Bastar, Chhattisgarh, killing about 29 people. They killed senior party leader Mahendra Karma and Nand Kumar Patel and his son while in the attack another senior party leader Vidya Charan Shukla was severely wounded and later succumbed to his injuries on the 11th June. See: 2013 Maoist attack in Darbha Valley

"Class enemies" such as centre-left politicians who had surrendered or had been captured.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Naxal ... bha_valley

Karma surrendered along with various other Congress leaders. Naxalites then asked Congress leaders there to identify him. Karma came forward and identified himself. Naxalites then took him away and beat him. They then stabbed him several times and sprayed him with bullets, and then beat him again about the head with the butts of their guns.

Following the attack, the Naxals abducted Patel, his son and few other leaders. Around 6 pm, they asked others to leave except Patel and his son. Their bodies were later recovered from the forest at the ambush site. Autopsy revealed that Dinesh Patel had an axe injury on his head and it led to his death. Nandkumar Patel was also stabbed multiple times and there were also bullet wounds.

I hope the Naxalites come to the natural end of their lives within the limits of a sturdy cell of a safe jail.

Politicians, teachers and intellectuals should be deemed accountable for their actions and works.

How is getting rid of religious persecution and the caste system backwards? Please explain.

How does getting rid of religious persecution and the caste system have anything to do with Maoism? Any developed capitalist country would be trying to eradicate those as a priority.

You should read the page I linked on human rights abuses: http://www.hrw.org/asia/india
It is clear India at the moment has no intention in stopping either of those things.

[Risottia]

Terrorism is a largely modern phenomenon that wasn't prevalent in the 18th century.

Afaik, the Terror happened during the the 18th century - during the French Revolution, to be more accurate.
Not counting the other various instances through history when governments, armies and rebel groups have attacked civilians to scare them into submission.

[United Marxist Nations]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite

Circa 1971 the Naxalites gained a strong presence among the radical sections of the student movement in Calcutta.[19] Students left school to join the Naxalites. Majumdar, to entice more students into his organisation, declared that revolutionary warfare was to take place not only in the rural areas as before, but everywhere and spontaneously. Thus Majumdar declared an "annihilation line", a dictum that Naxalites should assassinate individual "class enemies" (such as landlords, businessmen, university teachers, police officers, politicians of the right and left) and others

"Class enemies" such as UNIVERSITY TEACHERS should be assassinated.

On 17 May, Naxals blew up a bus on Dantewda–Sukhma road in Chhattisgarh, killing 15 policemen and 20 civilians.

"Class enemies" such as 20 civilian bus passengers.

On 25 May 2013, Naxalites attacked a rally led by the Indian National Congress in Sukma village in Bastar, Chhattisgarh, killing about 29 people. They killed senior party leader Mahendra Karma and Nand Kumar Patel and his son while in the attack another senior party leader Vidya Charan Shukla was severely wounded and later succumbed to his injuries on the 11th June. See: 2013 Maoist attack in Darbha Valley

"Class enemies" such as centre-left politicians who had surrendered or had been captured.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Naxal ... bha_valley

Karma surrendered along with various other Congress leaders. Naxalites then asked Congress leaders there to identify him. Karma came forward and identified himself. Naxalites then took him away and beat him. They then stabbed him several times and sprayed him with bullets, and then beat him again about the head with the butts of their guns.

Following the attack, the Naxals abducted Patel, his son and few other leaders. Around 6 pm, they asked others to leave except Patel and his son. Their bodies were later recovered from the forest at the ambush site. Autopsy revealed that Dinesh Patel had an axe injury on his head and it led to his death. Nandkumar Patel was also stabbed multiple times and there were also bullet wounds.

I hope the Naxalites come to the natural end of their lives within the limits of a sturdy cell of a safe jail.

Politicians, teachers and intellectuals should be deemed accountable for their actions and works.

What exactly have teachers and intellectuals done that requires punishment? This is why all other Marxists have such a dislike of Maoism, because its more extreme groups start to sound like Pol Pot for a while.

[Risottia]

Politicians, teachers and intellectuals should be deemed accountable for their actions and works.

And of course terrorists, murderers and thugs shouldn't.

Uh uh.

Nice double standard.

[McNernia]

F--K I am going to India.

[Communist Volkstrad]

What exactly have teachers and intellectuals done that requires punishment? This is why all other Marxists have such a dislike of Maoism, because its more extreme groups start to sound like Pol Pot for a while.

I concur with this.

[Socialist Tera]

Politicians, teachers and intellectuals should be deemed accountable for their actions and works.

What exactly have teachers and intellectuals done that requires punishment? This is why all other Marxists have such a dislike of Maoism, because its more extreme groups start to sound like Pol Pot for a while.

The spreading of backwards ideas can be dangerous, if the teacher teaches racism etc. They should be accountable to the masses. Same as dangerous pseudo-intellectual works. The idea of socialism is the oppressing of the bourgeois class.

Politicians, teachers and intellectuals should be deemed accountable for their actions and works.

And of course terrorists, murderers and thugs shouldn't.

Uh uh.

Nice double standard.

They are fighting against a corrupt system. If a corrupt nation is allies with the US, we must ignore all it's fault, mustn't we?

[Risottia]

What exactly have teachers and intellectuals done that requires punishment?

They don't obey terrorist thugs who try to hide their crimes behind a veil of populism, of course.

[The Bosakian Sultanate]

We need to crush these so-called "revolutionaries" before they make India poorer than it already is.

[Tubbsalot]

How does getting rid of religious persecution and the caste system have anything to do with Maoism? Any developed capitalist country would be trying to eradicate those as a priority.

You should read the page I linked on human rights abuses: http://www.hrw.org/asia/india
It is clear India at the moment has no intention in stopping either of those things.

This doesn't answer my question. When capitalists would be equally eager to eliminate religious persecution and the caste system, how can you present that as an example of Maoism?

Nevermind the fact that India is indeed attempting to eradicate the caste system, though they could certainly be trying harder with the persecution.

[Parhe]

What exactly have teachers and intellectuals done that requires punishment? This is why all other Marxists have such a dislike of Maoism, because its more extreme groups start to sound like Pol Pot for a while.

The spreading of backwards ideas can be dangerous, if the teacher teaches racism etc. They should be accountable to the masses. Same as dangerous pseudo-intellectual works. The idea of socialism is the oppressing of the bourgeois class.

And of course terrorists, murderers and thugs shouldn't.

Uh uh.

Nice double standard.

They are fighting against a corrupt system. If a corrupt nation is allies with the US, we must ignore all it's fault, mustn't we?

If a corrupt group is fighting against a corrupt system, we must ignore all it''s fault, musn't we?

[Trevor Phillip Enterprises]

What exactly have teachers and intellectuals done that requires punishment? This is why all other Marxists have such a dislike of Maoism, because its more extreme groups start to sound like Pol Pot for a while.

The spreading of backwards ideas can be dangerous, if the teacher teaches racism etc. They should be accountable to the masses. Same as dangerous pseudo-intellectual works. The idea of socialism is the oppressing of the bourgeois class.

So are you saying that the Maoist inspired rhetoric of these terrorists is better?

[Risottia]

The idea of socialism is the oppressing of the bourgeois class.

Congratulations! You just failed Marxism 101.

They are fighting against a corrupt system.

They claim to be fighting against a corrupt system, while actively trying to establish a more corrupt and violent one.

If a corrupt nation is allies with the US, we must ignore all it's fault, mustn't we?

Exactly where did I say so?

[Socialist Tera]

You should read the page I linked on human rights abuses: http://www.hrw.org/asia/india
It is clear India at the moment has no intention in stopping either of those things.

This doesn't answer my question. When capitalists would be equally eager to eliminate religious persecution and the caste system, how can you present that as an example of Maoism?

Nevermind the fact that India is indeed attempting to eradicate the caste system, though they could certainly be trying harder with the persecution.

Maoism has been successful doing that in China. If the capitalists were eager to make the changes, it would of been made within the system already. The main problems with a lot of capitalists, they are not willing to use the force necessary to force change to happen.

The idea of socialism is the oppressing of the bourgeois class.

Congratulations! You just failed Marxism 101.

They are fighting against a corrupt system.

They claim to be fighting against a corrupt system, while actively trying to establish a more corrupt and violent one.

If a corrupt nation is allies with the US, we must ignore all it's fault, mustn't we?

Exactly where did I say so?

Knowing your stance on socialism, if the reverse was happening in a socialist country. You would be cheering for the capitalists to overthrow the "corrupt socialist government". The idea of socialism is the dictatorship of the proletariat. You need a state to oppress the bourgeois class and use the state as a tool to reach defeat capitalism, then get rid of the state.

[Parhe]

This doesn't answer my question. When capitalists would be equally eager to eliminate religious persecution and the caste system, how can you present that as an example of Maoism?

Nevermind the fact that India is indeed attempting to eradicate the caste system, though they could certainly be trying harder with the persecution.

Maoism has been successful doing that in China. If the capitalists were eager to make the changes, it would of been made within the system already. The main problems with a lot of capitalists, they are not willing to use the force necessary to force change to happen.

Capitalists have been successful doing that in South Korea. It isn't a goal exclusive to Maoism.

[United Marxist Nations]

This doesn't answer my question. When capitalists would be equally eager to eliminate religious persecution and the caste system, how can you present that as an example of Maoism?

Nevermind the fact that India is indeed attempting to eradicate the caste system, though they could certainly be trying harder with the persecution.

Maoism has been successful doing that in China. If the capitalists were eager to make the changes, it would of been made within the system already. The main problems with a lot of capitalists, they are not willing to use the force necessary to force change to happen.

If they weren't willing to use the force necessary to force change to happen, then they wouldn't be in power. Lrn 2 French Revolution.

[New Terricon]

Yes, terrorism is bound to cause deaths and suffering only among the hated class enemy.

Not.

They are engaged in guerrilla warfare to get rid of the horrible caste system. They are real revolutionaries, they fight, they suffer, they fight for the greater good. Of course, a revolution in India needs to be violent, they are using as much force as the government uses against them.

Exactly, India needs quick change if it is to stay afloat. These "reforms" aren't doing anything more than delaying the inevitable. People will die if this group continues fighting, but people will die anyways under the current system.

[Risottia]

Maoism has been successful doing that in China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_China

tl;dr : while the ruling upper class (venture capitalists and Party brass) lives in luxury apartments in Shangai skyscrapers and seaside villas, the majority of the Chinese people live on less than 4 US$ a day.