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Postby Socialist Tera » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:35 pm

New Delhi: India has been ranked 6th in the Global Terrorism Index (GTI) report produced on the basis of data obtained and studied from the Global Terrorism Database (GTD) for the year 2013 by the Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP), which provides a comprehensive summary of the key global trends and patterns in terrorism over the last 14 years during 2000 and 2013.

IEP calculated the Global Terrorism Index (GTI) for India as 7.86 out of 10 with sixth rank only below the five worst terrorism-hit countries Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nigeria and Syria.

While the main reason assigned for the terrorism in these five countries is Islamist extremism but for India the main cause and threat is observed as violent communist activities.

The second edition of the Global Terrorism Index (GTI) report released on November 16 observed that terrorism increased in India by 70 per cent from 2012 to 2013, with the number of deaths increasing from 238 to 404 while the number of attacks increasing with 55 more in 2013 than 2012.

For the year 2013, the report notes 624 incidences to be the terrorist act in India responsible for 404 deaths and 719 injuries to the Indians that include police, private citizens, government servants and others.

It mentions May 25, 2013 attack in Chhattisgarh that killed 17 Congress men including Mahendra Karma, a powerful Congress tribal leader, as the worst terrorist attack in the country that was blamed on Communist Party of India – Maoists (CPI-M).

The report categorizes into three the number of 42 terrorist groups in the country: Islamists, separatists and Communists.

Source: http://twocircles.net/2014nov21/1416548 ... G-tt_mSyCn
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:36 pm

India topped Brazil in the number of total people murdered each year because of this.

No, it's NOT nice, NOT civilized and NOT commendable.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:37 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:What are your thoughts on this? I am personally happy that the Maoists are kicking bourgeois and land lord ass in India.


Yes, terrorism is bound to cause deaths and suffering only among the hated class enemy.

Not.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:39 pm

Risottia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:What are your thoughts on this? I am personally happy that the Maoists are kicking bourgeois and land lord ass in India.

Yes, terrorism is bound to cause deaths and suffering only among the hated class enemy.

Not.

^

C'mon, don't make this forum hate far-left/radical left/ultra-left people more than it already does.

Aside such views being naturally terrible and inhumane, specially so from folks who should repulse the death penalty and human suffering, they won't remember capitalism kills more people than attempts of socialism ever will.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:39 pm

Risottia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:What are your thoughts on this? I am personally happy that the Maoists are kicking bourgeois and land lord ass in India.


Yes, terrorism is bound to cause deaths and suffering only among the hated class enemy.

Not.

They are engaged in guerrilla warfare to get rid of the horrible caste system. They are real revolutionaries, they fight, they suffer, they fight for the greater good. Of course, a revolution in India needs to be violent, they are using as much force as the government uses against them.
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:41 pm

Terrorism and murder are never the answer. It only makes people hate a cause, no matter how valid it is. Peaceful protest, spreading awareness and civil disobedience are the best ways to fight against the bourgeoisie in the modern era.

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Empire of Narnia wrote:Terrorism and murder are never the answer. It only makes people hate a cause, no matter how valid it is. Peaceful protest, spreading awareness and civil disobedience are the best ways to fight against the bourgeoisie in the modern era.

False. Many successful revolutions have been violent. e.g Cuba revolution, American revolution.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:44 pm

It's edgy to claim an unstable dictatorship wouldn't turn matters much worse in India.

Empire of Narnia wrote:Terrorism and murder are never the answer. It only makes people hate a cause, no matter how valid it is. Peaceful protest, spreading awareness and civil disobedience are the best ways to fight against the bourgeoisie in the modern era.

:hug:

He gets it.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:45 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Terrorism and murder are never the answer. It only makes people hate a cause, no matter how valid it is. Peaceful protest, spreading awareness and civil disobedience are the best ways to fight against the bourgeoisie in the modern era.

False. Many successful revolutions have been violent. e.g Cuba revolution, American revolution.
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Here's one thing: they fought despotic people and dictatorships.
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:45 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Terrorism and murder are never the answer. It only makes people hate a cause, no matter how valid it is. Peaceful protest, spreading awareness and civil disobedience are the best ways to fight against the bourgeoisie in the modern era.

False. Many successful revolutions have been violent. e.g Cuba revolution, American revolution.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"- Gerald Seymour

Those were in the past and they were fought against dictatorial regimes. Terrorism is different from a violent revolution anyways. I'd hardly call 9/11 an attempted revolution.

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Postby Upper America » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:45 pm

If you're happy about terrorism, you should be on the no-fly list.

Socialist Tera wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Terrorism and murder are never the answer. It only makes people hate a cause, no matter how valid it is. Peaceful protest, spreading awareness and civil disobedience are the best ways to fight against the bourgeoisie in the modern era.

False. Many successful revolutions have been violent. e.g Cuba revolution, American revolution.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"- Gerald Seymour

The American Revolution wasn't terrorism. If anything, the British were terrorizing us.
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Postby Parhe » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:46 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Risottia wrote:Yes, terrorism is bound to cause deaths and suffering only among the hated class enemy.

Not.

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C'mon, don't make this forum hate far-left people more than it already does.

I was not aware this forum did. >.> Did something change in the past three months?
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Postby Communist Volkstrad » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:46 pm

Terrorism is not the answer. If these rebels had popular support of the masses, they wouldn't need to do this. Terrorism makes you feared by the people, not just of your country, but from others. It makes you hated and feared. If you had support from everyone, you could go through a clean-cut revolution without hurting innocents. Even if peaceful change is impossible, violent revolution can occur without hurting those un-involved with the conflict(At least, as little as is possible.) It's also not the same thing as terrorism, which is what, as I an tell, is going on in India.

Terrorism is never a way to bring about change.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:48 pm

Parhe wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:^

C'mon, don't make this forum hate far-left people more than it already does.

I was not aware this forum did. >.> Did something change in the past three months?

Choice between liberal and conservative capitalism being the only major mainstream ideologies is laughable and ridiculous.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:49 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Yes, terrorism is bound to cause deaths and suffering only among the hated class enemy.

Not.

They are engaged in guerrilla warfare to get rid of the horrible caste system. They are real revolutionaries, they fight, they suffer, they fight for the greater good. Of course, a revolution in India needs to be violent, they are using as much force as the government uses against them.

They fight, they make other people suffer claiming it's for the greater good when it's not proven that it's the only way to further the cause of social justice.

They're violent fundies.
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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:51 pm

Upper America wrote:If you're happy about terrorism, you should be on the no-fly list.

Socialist Tera wrote:False. Many successful revolutions have been violent. e.g Cuba revolution, American revolution.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"- Gerald Seymour

The American Revolution wasn't terrorism. If anything, the British were terrorizing us.

Yep making you pay more taxes to pay for a war against your hated enemy, get some more land, and get some more control over the region in general.

Also if they just paid their taxes the British wouldn't have needed to go further.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:52 pm

Upper America wrote:If you're happy about terrorism, you should be on the no-fly list.

Socialist Tera wrote:False. Many successful revolutions have been violent. e.g Cuba revolution, American revolution.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"- Gerald Seymour

The American Revolution wasn't terrorism. If anything, the British were terrorizing us.

The British at the time would probably classed the American revolution as terrorism.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:False. Many successful revolutions have been violent. e.g Cuba revolution, American revolution.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"- Gerald Seymour

Here's one thing: they fought despotic people and dictatorships.

The Indian government has tons of humans rights abuses. http://www.hrw.org/asia/india
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Socialist Tera wrote:False. Many successful revolutions have been violent. e.g Cuba revolution, American revolution.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"- Gerald Seymour

Those were in the past and they were fought against dictatorial regimes. Terrorism is different from a violent revolution anyways. I'd hardly call 9/11 an attempted revolution.

9/11 was revenge for the Gulf War, bombings on innocent Muslims and the use of depleted uranium. Remember kids, if you invade a country bomb the shit out of the infrastructure it's ok but when a muslim decides to retaliate, then it's a horrible crime. You can't expect the Muslims to not retaliate against the US. It was pure revenge against the US for bad US foreign policy.
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Socialist Tera wrote:They are engaged in guerrilla warfare to get rid of the horrible caste system. They are real revolutionaries, they fight, they suffer, they fight for the greater good. Of course, a revolution in India needs to be violent, they are using as much force as the government uses against them.

They fight, they make other people suffer claiming it's for the greater good when it's not proven that it's the only way to further the cause of social justice.

They're violent fundies.[/quo
You need to be willing to be as violent as the oppressors or you will get nowhere. You can't expect peaceful demonstration when Indian police brutally crack down on protests.
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Postby National Socialist Korea » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:53 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:Terrorism and murder are never the answer. It only makes people hate a cause, no matter how valid it is. Peaceful protest, spreading awareness and civil disobedience are the best ways to fight against the bourgeoisie in the modern era.

^ This.

In the face of India's horrible caste system, they ought to adopt Mahatma Gandhi's stance. And besides, I don't like Maoism anyway.

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Postby Manisdog » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:56 pm

National Socialist Korea wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Terrorism and murder are never the answer. It only makes people hate a cause, no matter how valid it is. Peaceful protest, spreading awareness and civil disobedience are the best ways to fight against the bourgeoisie in the modern era.

^ This.

In the face of India's horrible caste system, they ought to adopt Mahatma Gandhi's stance. And besides, I don't like Maoism anyway.


When Gandhi said go to the villages, Ambedkar said go to the cities

Gandhi's stance was unclear on it, but he did a lot of good work for the upliftment of the lower castes, I think we need more reservations


and Maoism is just terrorism, it plainly is scourge to the nation

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Socialist Tera wrote:
Upper America wrote:If you're happy about terrorism, you should be on the no-fly list.


The American Revolution wasn't terrorism. If anything, the British were terrorizing us.

The British at the time would probably classed the American revolution as terrorism.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Here's one thing: they fought despotic people and dictatorships.

The Indian government has tons of humans rights abuses. http://www.hrw.org/asia/india
Empire of Narnia wrote:Those were in the past and they were fought against dictatorial regimes. Terrorism is different from a violent revolution anyways. I'd hardly call 9/11 an attempted revolution.

9/11 was revenge for the Gulf War, bombings on innocent Muslims and the use of depleted uranium. Remember kids, if you invade a country bomb the shit out of the infrastructure it's ok but when a muslim decides to retaliate, then it's a horrible crime. You can't expect the Muslims to not retaliate against the US. It was pure revenge against the US for bad US foreign policy.
Risottia wrote:

They fight, they make other people suffer claiming it's for the greater good when it's not proven that it's the only way to further the cause of social justice.

They're violent fundies.[/quo
You need to be willing to be as violent as the oppressors or you will get nowhere. You can't expect peaceful demonstration when Indian police brutally crack down on protests.

Terrorism is a largely modern phenomenon that wasn't prevalent in the 18th century. Don't try to look at history with a modern view to fit an agenda.

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Postby Free Detroit » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:59 pm

Well how about that. Go Maoist India!

Revolutionary violence isn't always the answer, but it works in some places. I'm sure they have a better idea of what is required to deal with the shitspray of social and political problems in India than I do... Best of luck to them.
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The Sotoan Union wrote:Terrorism is a largely modern phenomenon that wasn't prevalent in the 18th century.

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Postby Herskerstad » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:00 pm

Oh, the read headed step child of communistic ideology strikes again.

But seriously, few doctrines are as backwards as Maoism and hopefully India will deal hardly with said rebels, until a general peace can be made that involves their disbandment.
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Postby Free Detroit » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:00 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:Terrorism is a largely modern phenomenon that wasn't prevalent in the 18th century. Don't try to look at history with a modern view to fit an agenda.


That's what history is for.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:02 pm

Herskerstad wrote:Oh, the read headed step child of communistic ideology strikes again.

But seriously, few doctrines are asbackwards as Maoism and hopefully India will deal hardly with said rebels, until a general peace can be made that involves their disbandment.

How is getting rid of religious persecution and the caste system backwards? Please explain.
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