Your thoughts on Ferguson civil unrest

[The Union of the West]

I never understood why the Ferguson incident caused so much unrest. Police shoot people all the time, so why riot over this one?

[Arcturus Novus]

I never understood why the Ferguson incident caused so much unrest. Police shoot people all the time, so why riot over this one?

Mostly because of a) heaps of evidence that show Mike Brown as an innocent man, b) the fact that Darren Wilson was allowed to go on paid vacation while all of this went down, and c) the possibility that we could have a repeat of the infamous Trayvon Martin case.

[Harpers Ferry]

Any blacks who feel oppressed by affirmative action and all the welfare we give them can go back to their African utopia at any time.

That statement is so goddamned racist and I cant believe you could be so thickheaded and blind. You are deliberately ignoring the multitudes and multitudes of racist lynchings conducted by our nations police department, and horribly obvious economic opression in favor of promoting your own brand of faux-common sense in favor of actually standing for national liberation

How about no, let's not call for the "by any means necessary". All that will do is harm the innocent and do nothing to advance the "cause". This is not a "rebellion" and no one is being "oppressed". So don't compare this incident to the Palestinian plight, because it is no where close.

You don't live here, so you do not know the atmosphere, but there has already been a list of "targets" released, which include the Busch brewery, Botanical gardens, and several hospitals. It is most likely just words, but everyone is so on edge that it is being taken very seriously.

I probably got too intense about the "by any means necessary" statement. However, I dont think there is any serious plan or even anything but limited threats by a tiny minority of protestors to attack botanical gardens. The fact is however, that it is time that people stood up against police brutality in all oppressed communities, and I think the uprising is altogether a great moment in our history

Yeah tell that to the people who currently are terrified of what may happen when the verdict is reached. Tell that to the business owners who have nearly gone under because of those who took it to far. Hell, tell it to me and my neighbors since we both have had to deal with vandalism to our property.

This nonsense is anything but great, it is disruptive and potentially harmful.

[Hetmarch]

I never understood why the Ferguson incident caused so much unrest. Police shoot people all the time, so why riot over this one?

Mostly because of a) heaps of evidence that show Mike Brown as an innocent man, b) the fact that Darren Wilson was allowed to go on paid vacation while all of this went down, and c) the possibility that we could have a repeat of the infamous Trayvon Martin case.

Mike Brown was caught on video stealing cigars and assaulting a store owner. The media left that out because it goes counter to the narrative. He was not an innocent little boy who dint do nuffin. Trayvon had a criminal record and was a lean user. He knew MMA and was bashing Zimmerman's skull against concrete at the time of the shooting. Stop spreading misinformation.

[Greed and Death]

from here it looks like the gov of mo is trying to make sure that there is a massive violent riot when the grand jury refuses to indict officer Wilson.

It is a little premature on the part of the governor to bring in the guard and lock the town down.

[Potenco]

Mostly because of a) heaps of evidence that show Mike Brown as an innocent man, b) the fact that Darren Wilson was allowed to go on paid vacation while all of this went down, and c) the possibility that we could have a repeat of the infamous Trayvon Martin case.

Mike Brown was caught on video stealing cigars and assaulting a store owner. The media left that out because it goes counter to the narrative. He was not an innocent little boy who dint do nuffin. Trayvon had a criminal record and was a lean user. He knew MMA and was bashing Zimmerman's skull against concrete at the time of the shooting. Stop spreading misinformation.

Trayvon Martins "criminal record" was getting caught with pot, which pot smoking is considered a rite of passage with American (white) teens. Its practicaly expected for white teenagers to smoke pot, whereas when a black does it, the media treats it as a valid reason to be stalked and shot.

So what if drank lean, its a pretty common drug. Dangerous for ones personal health absoultely, but everybody gets their rocks off in different ways.

So stealing cigars warrants getting shot? White people shoplift all the time and never get violently attacked or shot for it. The reason why you dont realize how racist this country is is because you are a major part of the problem, and privilege is invisible to those who have it if they are unwilling

[Harpers Ferry]

from here it looks like the gov of mo is trying to make sure that there is a massive violent riot when the grand jury refuses to indict officer Wilson.

It is a little premature on the part of the governor to bring in the guard and lock the town down.

I agree, but people around here are getting extremely worked up over what may happen. Hell, were being told to go out and stock on necessities.

[Beta Test]

The militarisation of police is something I find quite disturbing. I don't really know enough to comment on the shooting of the man though.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Mike Brown was caught on video stealing cigars and assaulting a store owner. The media left that out because it goes counter to the narrative. He was not an innocent little boy who dint do nuffin. Trayvon had a criminal record and was a lean user. He knew MMA and was bashing Zimmerman's skull against concrete at the time of the shooting. Stop spreading misinformation.

Trayvon Martins "criminal record" was getting caught with pot, which pot smoking is considered a rite of passage with American (white) teens. Its practicaly expected for white teenagers to smoke pot, whereas when a black does it, the media treats it as a valid reason to be stalked and shot.

So what if drank lean, its a pretty common drug. Dangerous for ones personal health absoultely, but everybody gets their rocks off in different ways.

So stealing cigars warrants getting shot? White people shoplift all the time and never get violently attacked or shot for it. The reason why you dont realize how racist this country is is because you are a major part of the problem, and privilege is invisible to those who have it if they are unwilling

So because one person breaks the law and got away with it, it should be ok for another to do it whenever they please?

In what fucked up world is that acceptable?

It is a little premature on the part of the governor to bring in the guard and lock the town down.

I agree, but people around here are getting extremely worked up over what may happen. Hell, were being told to go out and stock on necessities.

I feel bad for you and everyone forced into your position. Sadly, this is a great example of innocent people suffering because a few idiots can't figure out how to peacefully protest a viewpoint. As such, I give absolutely zero fucks about anyone who uses this incident as an excuse to cause further mayhem and destruction, and I hope anyone caught looting and destroying private and/or commercial property is arrested on sight and charged with domestic terrorism.

[Harpers Ferry]

Mike Brown was caught on video stealing cigars and assaulting a store owner. The media left that out because it goes counter to the narrative. He was not an innocent little boy who dint do nuffin. Trayvon had a criminal record and was a lean user. He knew MMA and was bashing Zimmerman's skull against concrete at the time of the shooting. Stop spreading misinformation.

Trayvon Martins "criminal record" was getting caught with pot, which pot smoking is considered a rite of passage with American (white) teens. Its practicaly expected for white teenagers to smoke pot, whereas when a black does it, the media treats it as a valid reason to be stalked and shot.

So what if drank lean, its a pretty common drug. Dangerous for ones personal health absoultely, but everybody gets their rocks off in different ways.

So stealing cigars warrants getting shot? White people shoplift all the time and never get violently attacked or shot for it. The reason why you dont realize how racist this country is is because you are a major part of the problem, and privilege is invisible to those who have it if they are unwilling

uh, I'm calling bullshit on the rite of passage nonesense. Not even sure where you pulled that out of.

And what the he'll do you mean so what? Is it now acceptable to do heroin or Meth because "everybody gets their rocks off in different ways"?

I honestly have no idea what you're going on about.

[Hetmarch]

Trayvon's criminal record was not just pot. He had been caught with a burglary tool and stolen property on school grounds before. I never said that stealing cigars should be punishable by death. Trying to grab a cop's gun after being caught and then fleeing is. Why can't you accept that not all blacks are fucking angels?

[Potenco]

Trayvon Martins "criminal record" was getting caught with pot, which pot smoking is considered a rite of passage with American (white) teens. Its practicaly expected for white teenagers to smoke pot, whereas when a black does it, the media treats it as a valid reason to be stalked and shot.

So what if drank lean, its a pretty common drug. Dangerous for ones personal health absoultely, but everybody gets their rocks off in different ways.

So stealing cigars warrants getting shot? White people shoplift all the time and never get violently attacked or shot for it. The reason why you dont realize how racist this country is is because you are a major part of the problem, and privilege is invisible to those who have it if they are unwilling

uh, I'm calling bullshit on the rite of passage nonesense. Not even sure where you pulled that out of.

And what the he'll do you mean so what? Is it now acceptable to do heroin or Meth because "everybody gets their rocks off in different ways"?

I honestly have no idea what you're going on about.

That people who use narcotics or steal things dont deserve to be shot in the street, and certainly not without a trial.

[Harpers Ferry]

uh, I'm calling bullshit on the rite of passage nonesense. Not even sure where you pulled that out of.

And what the he'll do you mean so what? Is it now acceptable to do heroin or Meth because "everybody gets their rocks off in different ways"?

I honestly have no idea what you're going on about.

That people who use narcotics or steal things dont deserve to be shot in the street, and certainly not without a trial.

Of course not. That wasn't why he was shot though.

And on the same token, not every incident of a black man gettting shot by police is a racially motivated hate crime.

[Neutraligon]

Trayvon's criminal record was not just pot. He had been caught with a burglary tool and stolen property on school grounds before. I never said that stealing cigars should be punishable by death. Trying to grab a cop's gun after being caught and then fleeing is. Why can't you accept that not all blacks are fucking angels?

Source that. As for the rest, there are different witness takes on this.

[Hetmarch]

Trayvon's criminal record was not just pot. He had been caught with a burglary tool and stolen property on school grounds before. I never said that stealing cigars should be punishable by death. Trying to grab a cop's gun after being caught and then fleeing is. Why can't you accept that not all blacks are fucking angels?

Source that. As for the rest, there are different witness takes on this.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... lary-tool/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/m ... -1.1982854

[Ashmoria]

from here it looks like the gov of mo is trying to make sure that there is a massive violent riot when the grand jury refuses to indict officer Wilson.

It is a little premature on the part of the governor to bring in the guard and lock the town down.

yeah

its not premature to make plans but the statements the gov has made sound like he is insulting and inciting the African America residents of ferguson. he seems to be assuming that there will be no indictment and that he assumes that the resulting protestors will obviously be violent from the get-go.

[Coccygia]

I fully respect and give full solidarity to the oppressed participating in the ferguson rebellion. The fact is, our society is so behind that the slogan for the movement is black lives matter, when we should not have to say hose things and they should be obvious. The media portrayal f the protestors as looters is horribly racist, especially when one considers that many activists are guarding small businesses.

The people deserve to fight back by any means necessary and I pray that this will be the beginning of a real movement to eliminate police brutality. Whether it's in Gaza, Aotzi or Ferguson, the machine has t fall and to oppressed must rise up

Are you kidding or not? It's hard to tell. And WTF is Aotzi?

[Hetmarch]

The protests have already been violent. It's not a stretch to say that future ones will be.

[Ashmoria]

Trayvon's criminal record was not just pot. He had been caught with a burglary tool and stolen property on school grounds before. I never said that stealing cigars should be punishable by death. Trying to grab a cop's gun after being caught and then fleeing is. Why can't you accept that not all blacks are fucking angels?

fleeing the police is not a shooting offense either.

[Potenco]

I fully respect and give full solidarity to the oppressed participating in the ferguson rebellion. The fact is, our society is so behind that the slogan for the movement is black lives matter, when we should not have to say hose things and they should be obvious. The media portrayal f the protestors as looters is horribly racist, especially when one considers that many activists are guarding small businesses.

The people deserve to fight back by any means necessary and I pray that this will be the beginning of a real movement to eliminate police brutality. Whether it's in Gaza, Aotzi or Ferguson, the machine has t fall and to oppressed must rise up

Are you kidding or not? It's hard to tell. And WTF is Aotzi?

*Whoops, I typo'd , Ayotzi.

Thats a place in Mexico where many of the killings have taken place

[Hetmarch]

Trayvon's criminal record was not just pot. He had been caught with a burglary tool and stolen property on school grounds before. I never said that stealing cigars should be punishable by death. Trying to grab a cop's gun after being caught and then fleeing is. Why can't you accept that not all blacks are fucking angels?

fleeing the police is not a shooting offense either.

Trying to kill a cop is.

[The Union of Tentacles and Grapes]

fleeing the police is not a shooting offense either.

Trying to kill a cop is.

I might agree with that.

Who was trying to kill a cop, now?

[Ashmoria]

fleeing the police is not a shooting offense either.

Trying to kill a cop is.

no its not. not when you are running away. as soon as officer Wilson had no more reason to fear for his life he had NO justification for shooting at mr brown. for god's sake it was the middle of the day and there were lots of people on the street. anyone could have gotten killed.

[Potenco]

fleeing the police is not a shooting offense either.

Trying to kill a cop is.

Nobody tried to kill a cop in either case. As much as I support the motto "ACAB" these people were both innocent of any wrongdoing. Frankly Trayvon Martinhad every right to attack George Zimmerman, that fucker stalked Trayvon for three blocks and attacked him first and he has continued to be a reactionary douchebag since this ended.

Neither did Micheal Brown. Most witnesses dont think he tried to steal a gun, of course Darren Wilson would say that Micheal did because it makes him look good

[Intaglio]

I've tuned it out. The media has done a great job sensationalizing this, just like every such case.