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Postby -The West Coast- » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:29 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
-The West Coast- wrote:I don't have to invent anything to prove my worth.


So by what standard do you claim to be part of the great white race? After all, those members of other races that did something exceptional were just "singular men". If you can even match that then by what standard do you claim to be superior?

I claim to be apart of the superior race because of the way I live, how I carry myself and what I do for the people in my community and in my country as a whole.
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:29 pm

-Ebola- wrote:I don't think white people led the way in developing African civilization or forging the relationship between our two species, but I could be wrong because I do sometimes have trouble telling one race from another. It's hard to see skin color from inside the body, especially when I don't have eyes.

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Postby Anglo-California » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:29 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:So the chinese guy is blaming White race for all the bad things in the world and now he is saying that China is beating us at it.


Funny, isn't it?
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Postby Margno » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:29 pm

Yeah, it really hasn't. The white race crashed effected a lot of stuff in colonialism, that's about it.
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Postby NERVUN » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:29 pm

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You're beating us? Sweet! That means you're on top. When can I start blaming you for shit?

As soon as there's a KKK version for Chinese people.

I thought there was already... :unsure:
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Postby Norstal » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:30 pm

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At rising income inequality and pollution? Those don't seem like something to brag about, but if that's your thing, go for it.

I never said it's a good thing. All I'm saying is before the British came, the Chinese Qing empire was fine the way it was. Then everyone needed to industrialize to survive.

You either think industrialization is good and accept that it is the one that is creating modern problems like climate change or admit that there is no superior race. Pick one, not both.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:30 pm

NERVUN wrote:I had a professor who noted that the main thing that Europeans can lay claim to is taking three (or four) separate inventions from various cultures and making superior ships. At the time, having those ships, capable of navigating around the world made all the difference.

I like to think of Western culture rather like I think of English - it gets its power and appeal from stealing everything that's not nailed down from everywhere it visits. And it's beautiful, in a terrifying way. :p
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:31 pm

Norstal wrote:I never said it's a good thing. All I'm saying is before the British came, the Chinese Qing empire was fine the way it was. Then everyone needed to industrialize to survive.

No.

Nooo.

No.

Not really.

No.

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Postby NERVUN » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:31 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
NERVUN wrote:I had a professor who noted that the main thing that Europeans can lay claim to is taking three (or four) separate inventions from various cultures and making superior ships. At the time, having those ships, capable of navigating around the world made all the difference.

I like to think of Western culture rather like I think of English - it gets its power and appeal from stealing everything that's not nailed down from everywhere it visits. And it's beautiful, in a terrifying way. :p

The English were the greatest pirates in the history of the world. Their navy stole half the planet and their language stole the rest of it. :p
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:32 pm

-The West Coast- wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
So by what standard do you claim to be part of the great white race? After all, those members of other races that did something exceptional were just "singular men". If you can even match that then by what standard do you claim to be superior?

I claim to be apart of the superior race because of the way I live, how I carry myself and what I do for the people in my community and in my country as a whole.


And what is that then?

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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:32 pm

Margno wrote:Yeah, it really hasn't. The white race crashed effected a lot of stuff in colonialism, that's about it.

Well colonalization is the only reason those countries are civilised today (most of them)

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Postby Anglo-California » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:32 pm

Norstal wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
At rising income inequality and pollution? Those don't seem like something to brag about, but if that's your thing, go for it.

I never said it's a good thing. All I'm saying is before the British came, the Chinese Qing empire was fine the way it was.


A feudalistic backwater was a good thing?


WHAT?!?!


Well, I guess I'd take it over the current regime...
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Postby NERVUN » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:32 pm

Norstal wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
At rising income inequality and pollution? Those don't seem like something to brag about, but if that's your thing, go for it.

I never said it's a good thing. All I'm saying is before the British came, the Chinese Qing empire was fine the way it was. Then everyone needed to industrialize to survive

WHAT?!
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:33 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I like to think of Western culture rather like I think of English - it gets its power and appeal from stealing everything that's not nailed down from everywhere it visits. And it's beautiful, in a terrifying way. :p

The English were the greatest pirates in the history of the world. Their navy stole half the planet and their language stole the rest of it. :p


Not bad for a tiny island covered in drizzle.....
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:33 pm

Norstal wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
At rising income inequality and pollution? Those don't seem like something to brag about, but if that's your thing, go for it.

I never said it's a good thing. All I'm saying is before the British came, the Chinese Qing empire was fine the way it was. Then everyone needed to industrialize to survive.

You either think industrialization is good and accept that it is the one that is creating modern problems like climate change or admit that there is no superior race. Pick one, not both.


If you feel pre-industrial life is good, then by all means, try it out. But if you want to live industrialized, at least apply some pollution controls to the point where you don't have to shut industry down for a while before hosting an Olympic event to clear the smog out.
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Postby -The West Coast- » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:33 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
-The West Coast- wrote:I claim to be apart of the superior race because of the way I live, how I carry myself and what I do for the people in my community and in my country as a whole.


And what is that then?

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Postby Anglo-California » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:34 pm

Margno wrote:Yeah, it really hasn't. The white race crashed effected a lot of stuff in colonialism, that's about it.


>Implying whites aren't the only ones to colonize.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:34 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I like to think of Western culture rather like I think of English - it gets its power and appeal from stealing everything that's not nailed down from everywhere it visits. And it's beautiful, in a terrifying way. :p

The English were the greatest pirates in the history of the world. Their navy stole half the planet and their language stole the rest of it. :p


It's that Viking heritage, me thinks. The Franks and the Danes did a lot to contribute.
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Postby Norstal » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:34 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Norstal wrote:I never said it's a good thing. All I'm saying is before the British came, the Chinese Qing empire was fine the way it was. Then everyone needed to industrialize to survive.

No.

Nooo.

No.

Not really.

No.

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Ok, maybe "fine the way it was" was an overstatement. :P
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:35 pm

-The West Coast- wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
And what is that then?

I protect and serve my nation and my community from threats foreign and domestic. I help teach the youth of today in a school in my area and I give back to my community and my country that raised me.


And that makes you better than non-whites who do the same?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:35 pm

Anglo-California wrote:>Implying whites aren't the only ones to colonize.

Their colonization is causing trouble today. Most of the rest the world? Less so.

I'm not claiming that other races have the moral high ground. Just that as far as current problems go, it's definitely European colonization that's fucked things up.
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:36 pm

Anglo-California wrote:
Margno wrote:Yeah, it really hasn't. The white race crashed effected a lot of stuff in colonialism, that's about it.


>Implying whites aren't the only ones to colonize.


The Arabs did pretty well at that. Became history's greatest slave traders, to boot. Also algebra and the zero.
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:36 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
NERVUN wrote:The English were the greatest pirates in the history of the world. Their navy stole half the planet and their language stole the rest of it. :p


It's that Viking heritage, me thinks. The Franks and the Danes did a lot to contribute.

Brits Vikings?! Don't make me laugh. Brits are a mix of French, German, Celts and Anglos.

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Postby Meryuma » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:36 pm

New Stinkonia wrote:This reminds me of that city in Washington state that changed Columbus Day into Native American Day.

And I think all this intense focus on race is cute ̶ and not very intelligent.


Columbus was a slave trader. You can see why a holiday celebrating slavery is a bad idea, right?
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Postby -The West Coast- » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:36 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
-The West Coast- wrote:I protect and serve my nation and my community from threats foreign and domestic. I help teach the youth of today in a school in my area and I give back to my community and my country that raised me.


And that makes you better than non-whites who do the same?

It makes me better than those who don't. And those who do are inherently unequal to me in their efforts because of my status no matter their merits. Its not meant to be racist, its just proven by past precedent.
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