White People and History

[-The West Coast-]

He doesn't protect me from enemies foreign and domestic. He sends me to do that for him.

Do you deny that organization and command is an important part of any endeavor?

A military is not an armed mob.

I've never received a command from the president himself, but that's here nor there considering that its not the topic.

[-Ebola-]

And that makes you better than non-whites who do the same?

It makes me better than those who don't. And those who do are inherently unequal to me in their efforts because of my status no matter their merits. Its not meant to be racist, its just proven by past precedent.

Am I just not understanding this because I don't have a brain or is it actually nonsense? What do you mean because of your "status"?

[Conserative Morality]

No, Columbus Day celebrates only one of the most despicable assholes who came out of the Iberian peninsula.

Seriously now, Latin Americans have more of a connection with Columbus and we don't celebrate his ass.

Columbus didn't enslave anybody. The people who came after him did.

"From here one might send, in the name of the Holy Trinity, as many slaves as could be sold ..."

Nope, not a slaver here.

[-The West Coast-]

He doesn't protect me from enemies foreign and domestic. He sends me to do that for him.

Are you superior to your commander in chief?

On a racial level, yes I am superior to him, but not the authority he possesses.

[Anglo-California]

Columbus didn't enslave anybody. The people who came after him did.

"From here one might send, in the name of the Holy Trinity, as many slaves as could be sold ..."

Nope, not a slaver here.

Supported the slave trade? Yes. Actually a slaver? No.

[Conserative Morality]

I've never received a command from the president himself, but that's here nor there considering that its not the topic.

You've probably never received a command from a great number of the people above you. Doesn't mean that they aren't commanding the military.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No, Columbus Day celebrates only one of the most despicable assholes who came out of the Iberian peninsula.

Seriously now, Latin Americans have more of a connection with Columbus and we don't celebrate his ass.

Columbus didn't enslave anybody. The people who came after him did.

No, he did.

http://news.yahoo.com/slavery--disease- ... 53979.html
http://www.understandingprejudice.org/n ... lumbus.htm

He also was a tyrant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe ... vernorship

[Terra Sector Union]

Well colonalization is the only reason those countries are civilised today (most of them)

The Australian Aborigines were...well...quite...primitive.

Well yes, culturally and socially. But were they inherently primitive? No.

[Anglo-California]

Columbus didn't enslave anybody. The people who came after him did.

No, he did.

http://news.yahoo.com/slavery--disease- ... 53979.html
http://www.understandingprejudice.org/n ... lumbus.htm

The only source Yahoo has is a comic's website.

And "understandprejudice". Yeah, not totally biased or skewed at all.

He also was a tyrant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe ... vernorship

So was Abraham Lincoln, and we celebrate him.

[Dracoria]

If you feel pre-industrial life is good, then by all means, try it out. But if you want to live industrialized, at least apply some pollution controls to the point where you don't have to shut industry down for a while before hosting an Olympic event to clear the smog out.

And cut profits? No. Again, you forced the world to play your game. We're beating you. You don't get to cry about it. And on top of that, claiming that your race is superior. What utter bullshit, You don't get to go around claiming your ancestor's inventions as the panacea of all maladies and then try to blame others for using those very inventions.

Now, where did I claim a superior race or even the existence of races?

And as for beating us now? We'll see. Either China will be forced to cut those profits and protect their environment, or the country will be a smouldering hellhole in a generation or two. Remember, Britain had its great industrial period in the 19th century, the US had theirs later in the 19th and 20th, and we both had to start thinking about the smog and environment issues. I suppose China will finish catching up eventually.

[Saiwania]

I think whichever civilization is in control rises and falls through the ages. It can go in cycles but its also possible for a race to suffer a permanent decline. The Arabs dominated before Europe and now the Chinese have become #1.

[Norstal]

Are you superior to your commander in chief?

On a racial level, yes I am superior to him, but not the authority he possesses.

Considering he accomplished more than you, you must have brought your race great shame then.

[Anglo-California]

I think whichever civilization is in control rises and falls through the ages. It can go in cycles but its also possible for a race to suffer a permanent decline. The Arabs dominated before Europe and now the Chinese have become #1.

False. The Australian Aborigines never have, and never will, dominate the world.

[-The West Coast-]

On a racial level, yes I am superior to him, but not the authority he possesses.

Considering he accomplished more than you, you must have brought your race great shame then.

I wouldn't say he's accomplished more than I have; considering I never had any intention of doing what he's doing now.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No, he did.

http://news.yahoo.com/slavery--disease- ... 53979.html
http://www.understandingprejudice.org/n ... lumbus.htm

The only source Yahoo has is a comic's website.

And "understandprejudice". Yeah, not totally biased or skewed at all.

He also was a tyrant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe ... vernorship

So was Abraham Lincoln, and we celebrate him.

I mean, I can keep tossing at you sources of it:

http://latinamericanhistory.about.com/o ... struth.htm

Also, name me the holiday of Abraham Lincoln.

[Kalifati Arab shqiptar]

I think whichever civilization is in control rises and falls through the ages. It can go in cycles but its also possible for a race to suffer a permanent decline. The Arabs dominated before Europe and now the Chinese can become in 1000 years #1.

Fixed it.

[Conserative Morality]

Supported the slave trade? Yes. Actually a slaver? No.

Columbus, or Cristobal Colon (to give him his proper Spanish name), was a slave trader is a matter of historical fact. He cut his nautical teeth sailing under a Portuguese flag engaged in the African slave trade a dozen years before 1492. When easy wealth in the form of gold proved not readily available in the Caribbean, Colon resumed his slave-trading occupation by loading the holds of his ships with Indian human cargo headed for the slave market in Seville" ( Freeland and Tinker, 1)

A recently discovered report by de Bobadilla alleges that Columbus regularly used torture and mutilation to govern Hispaniola. The 48-page report, found in 2006 in the state archive in the Spanish city of Valladolid, contains testimonies from 23 people, including both enemies and supporters of Columbus, about Columbus and his brothers' treatment of colonial subjects during his seven-year rule.[73]

According to the report, Columbus once punished a man found guilty of stealing corn by having his ears and nose cut off and then selling him into slavery.

...

De las Casas records that when he first came to Hispaniola in 1508, "there were 60,000 people living on this island, including the Indians; so that from 1494 to 1508, over three million people had perished from war, slavery, and the mines. Who in future generations will believe this? I myself writing it as a knowledgeable eyewitness can hardly believe it...."

After he failed to contact the emperor of China, the traders of India or the merchants of Japan, Columbus decided to pay for his voyage in the one important commodity he had found in ample supply - human lives. He seized 1,200 Taino Indians from the island of Hispaniola, crammed as many onto his ships as would fit and sent them to Spain, where they were paraded naked through the streets of Seville and sold as slaves in 1495. Columbus tore children from their parents, husbands from wives. On board Columbus' slave ships, hundreds died; the sailors tossed the Indian bodies into the Atlantic.

[Anglo-California]

The only source Yahoo has is a comic's website.

And "understandprejudice". Yeah, not totally biased or skewed at all.



So was Abraham Lincoln, and we celebrate him.

I mean, I can keep tossing at you sources of it:

http://latinamericanhistory.about.com/o ... struth.htm

Also, name me the holiday of Abraham Lincoln.

Lincoln's birthday was a holiday until it was merged with Washington's birthday to make President's day, which is still largely focused on Washington and Lincoln, arguably the two most influential presidents.

And what record does your source reference?

[The Liberated Territories]

I think whichever civilization is in control rises and falls through the ages. It can go in cycles but its also possible for a race to suffer a permanent decline. The Arabs dominated before Europe and now the Chinese have become #1.

False. The Australian Aborigines never have, and never will, dominate the world.

Wow.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Oh, look, also a .edu site agrees with me:

http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/wic/summar ... inker.html

Now, are we going to stop this idiotic fapping to Columbus?

[Dracoria]

Also, name me the holiday of Abraham Lincoln.

Presidents' Day. Or half of it. We kind of merged it with Washington's birthday and now it's apparently a great time to buy a mattress or a car.

[Occidentria]

What do you consider "White"?

This is worth noting. In North America Germans weren't "white" until the arrival of Slavs and Italians in the 1880's, and Slavs and Italians weren't "white" until white people started meeting the black people instead of just reading about them in the news.

It seems like most groups have had empires and great societies.

And in contrast, most groups have been the perpetrators of atrocity the TheseWhiteMenAreDangerous(Pocahontas).gif Tumblr types so decry whites for. Most narratives of the Atlantic Slave Trade leave out the bit where the West African kingdoms manipulated their contact with white slavers as a proximal tool of diplomacy in their conflicts with rival nations.

[Norstal]

Considering he accomplished more than you, you must have brought your race great shame then.

I wouldn't say he's accomplished more than I have; considering I never had any intention of doing what he's doing now.

Regardless of your intentions, he accomplished more than you.

Unless you're saying that your intention is lesser than that of someone who's from the superior race...which is still shameful.

[Anglo-California]

Oh, look, also a .edu site agrees with me:

http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/wic/summar ... inker.html

Now, are we going to stop this idiotic fapping to Columbus?

This says he was a slaver in Africa prior to his historic voyage.

What?!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I mean, I can keep tossing at you sources of it:

http://latinamericanhistory.about.com/o ... struth.htm

Also, name me the holiday of Abraham Lincoln.

Lincoln's birthday was a holiday until it was merged with Washington's birthday to make President's day, which is still largely focused on Washington and Lincoln, arguably the two most influential presidents.

And what record does your source reference?

And what record do you have that he wasn't?

If you're going to appropriate the holiday and name it after some utter prick at least get your history right.