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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:57 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Bezombia wrote:Your opinions are wrong.


Nope, opinions are neither right or wrong :D


Then they aren't opinions.
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Kingdom of Viana
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:58 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Nope, opinions are neither right or wrong :D


Then they aren't opinions.


That is your opinion, and it's wrong so...
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Solorni
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Postby Solorni » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:02 pm

Willy Brandt wrote:
Solorni wrote:Willy Brandts posts have been really insightful and spot on.


Why, thank you. I'm going to assume you're not being sarcastic. :p

Yeah, I wasn't being sarcastic. I was on my phone though, but you brought up amazing points on Carter and of course Reagan who is pretty much for the forefather of much that is wrong within both America and the Republican Party.
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The Cobalt Sky
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:03 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Carter wasn't worse. The only thing he did that had long-term ill effects on the nation is not getting re-elected.


So your saying Reagan was worse than carter? Your hilarious, 90% of Americans would disagree with you.

I don't know the exact statistics on that, but I'd say it's a bit overblown. To say the least.
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Solorni
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Postby Solorni » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:30 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Laerod wrote:Pointing out how much of what you're saying is objectively false won't change your mind? Your loss.

Seriously, though. "Ended the Cold War". What bullshit have they been spoonfeeding you?


I come from a town in Massachussetes and they teach us that Reagon was great and all of his amazing feats INCLUDING the Cold War.

Now if you could stop trying to prove a point that will have no effect on how I view things, that would be great. :D

Politics are supposed to be about rationalism not blind adherence or mob dynamics (although I know this is how it so often works out). Stating you believe in Reagan because everyone in your town worships Saint Reagan when they go to Church is really not a good enough answer. It sounds more like peer pressure and what a kid caught doing drugs by his parents would say. "Well, all my friends were doing it...".
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Harpers Ferry
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:31 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Then they aren't opinions.


That is your opinion, and it's wrong so...

So you just said opinions can't be right or wrong, then proceeded to tell him that his is wrong? Do you even take yourself seriously?
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Ethel mermania
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:37 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote:No, just confused on why you would idolize such a fool.


Why can't we all just get along :(

But it's just my opinion, my family and the city where I'm from are staunchly Republican and we are taught that republicans are great! So when you say Reagan is a fool your just challenging the dominant Ideology of where I'm from so we'll get offended, ok? :)

Then why are you on a debate forum?

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Postby Bezombia » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:38 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Why can't we all just get along :(

But it's just my opinion, my family and the city where I'm from are staunchly Republican and we are taught that republicans are great! So when you say Reagan is a fool your just challenging the dominant Ideology of where I'm from so we'll get offended, ok? :)

Then why are you on a debate forum?


Reagan told him to.
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Postby Solorni » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:45 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Then why are you on a debate forum?


Reagan told him to.

And by that, I assume you mean Nancy Reagan ;)
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:45 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Then why are you on a debate forum?


Reagan told him to.

Don't you mean Raegan?
Kingdom of Viana wrote:I don't need specific evidence to prove something that is obviously true.
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:46 pm

Harpers Ferry wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Reagan told him to.

Don't you mean Raegan?

...touche.
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Kingdom of Viana
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:38 pm

Wow you guys are still talking about me? Doesn't change the fact that most Americans like him more than Carter or Obama much to the dismay of you foolish Democraps.
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Postby Bezombia » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:41 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:Wow you guys are still talking about me? Doesn't change the fact that most Americans like him more than Carter or Obama much to the dismay of you foolish Democraps.


Prove that it's true.
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Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
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New Stinkonia
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Postby New Stinkonia » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:51 pm

Reagan comes in 3rd for worst, after Dumbya and Nixon.
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Soviet Haaregrad
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:00 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Laerod wrote:Pointing out how much of what you're saying is objectively false won't change your mind? Your loss.

Seriously, though. "Ended the Cold War". What bullshit have they been spoonfeeding you?


I come from a town in Massachussetes and they teach us that Reagon was great and all of his amazing feats INCLUDING the Cold War.

Now if you could stop trying to prove a point that will have no effect on how I view things, that would be great. :D


It doesn't matter where you were indoctrinated, you were still indoctrinated with false information about Reagan. If reality won't alter your views that's your issue.
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Kingdom of Viana
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:08 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
I come from a town in Massachussetes and they teach us that Reagon was great and all of his amazing feats INCLUDING the Cold War.

Now if you could stop trying to prove a point that will have no effect on how I view things, that would be great. :D


It doesn't matter where you were indoctrinated, you were still indoctrinated with false information about Reagan. If reality won't alter your views that's your issue.


According to Times magazine Reagan is ranked one of the top 3 presidents in the United States. AND he is credited with helping to bring down the Cold War.
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Kingdom of Viana
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:09 pm

And you still have not given me a logical reason why Jimmy Carter is better than Reagan.
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Postby Kanaria » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:14 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:And you still have not given me a logical reason why Jimmy Carter is better than Reagan.

I've read this thread from beginning to end. They've given you plenty.
*sigh* unless you can provide us with an example "logical reason", and we go and find it and show it to you or admit defeat?

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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:15 pm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2546387/posts this will hopefully shed some light in your thick heads and if you still don't believe he is credited for ending the Cold War, then you are delusional.
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:16 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Look at my link and see what people who actually lived at the time felt.

I have. Feelings do not prove. Facts do.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Volcker
http://www.salon.com/2009/06/04/jimmy_carter_did_it/
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Kingdom of Viana
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:18 pm

Kanaria wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:And you still have not given me a logical reason why Jimmy Carter is better than Reagan.

I've read this thread from beginning to end. They've given you plenty.
*sigh* unless you can provide us with an example "logical reason", and we go and find it and show it to you or admit defeat?


I don't have to prove anything for anyone to recognize that Carter was an absolutely terrible president and in no way shape or form could he compete with Reagon. And if you think so, you are to extreme of a liberal.
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Postby Bezombia » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:21 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
It doesn't matter where you were indoctrinated, you were still indoctrinated with false information about Reagan. If reality won't alter your views that's your issue.


According to Times magazine Reagan is ranked one of the top 3 presidents in the United States. AND he is credited with helping to bring down the Cold War.


1: Prove it
2: Prove it
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:22 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:I don't have to prove anything for anyone to recognize that Carter was an absolutely terrible president and in no way shape or form could he compete with Reagon. And if you think so, you are to extreme of a liberal.


Actually, if you wish to make that claim you will need to support it to have it be accepted.

Additionally, why don't you bother to spell the name of your idol correctly?
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Postby Bezombia » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:24 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Kanaria wrote:I've read this thread from beginning to end. They've given you plenty.
*sigh* unless you can provide us with an example "logical reason", and we go and find it and show it to you or admit defeat?


I don't have to prove anything for anyone to recognize that Carter was an absolutely terrible president and in no way shape or form could he compete with Reagon. And if you think so, you are to extreme of a liberal.


Uh, it's spelt Rægon. Nobody's going to take you seriously if you can't even spell Raragon's name properly.
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Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
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Kanaria
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Postby Kanaria » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:28 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
I don't have to prove anything for anyone to recognize that Carter was an absolutely terrible president and in no way shape or form could he compete with Reagon. And if you think so, you are to extreme of a liberal.


Uh, it's spelt Rægon. Nobody's going to take you seriously if you can't even spell Raragon's name properly.

Ic hate Rægon. But speling is mor iportnt.

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