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by Createnoxia- » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:36 pm
by Tahar Joblis » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:50 pm
by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:56 pm
Createnoxia- wrote:These feminists have gone too far, especially since his WIFE made him that shirt. I support gender equality, but this is pure bullying.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.
by Central Slavia » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:10 pm
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Createnoxia- wrote:These feminists have gone too far, especially since his WIFE made him that shirt. I support gender equality, but this is pure bullying.
Yeah. Posting a comment on twitter that wearing a shirt covered in objectifying images of female bodies is probably not the best course of action at an international press conference, and saying "Hey, that whole 'Women are discouraged from joining in the scientific community' problem is caused in a lot of ways, and this makes up part of it" is "bullying."
Stop defending someone after they've apologized. The argument is over at that point.
Glorious Homeland wrote:
You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.
Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions
Great Nepal wrote:Please stick to OFFICIAL numbers. Why to go to scholars,[cut]
by Galloism » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:17 pm
Central Slavia wrote:New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Yeah. Posting a comment on twitter that wearing a shirt covered in objectifying images of female bodies is probably not the best course of action at an international press conference, and saying "Hey, that whole 'Women are discouraged from joining in the scientific community' problem is caused in a lot of ways, and this makes up part of it" is "bullying."
Stop defending someone after they've apologized. The argument is over at that point.
People can, in fact, apologize when they're not in the wrong, and calling admission of guilt a proof of guilt would mean that all those ladies burned at the stake were, in fact, witches.
by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:20 pm
Central Slavia wrote:New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Yeah. Posting a comment on twitter that wearing a shirt covered in objectifying images of female bodies is probably not the best course of action at an international press conference, and saying "Hey, that whole 'Women are discouraged from joining in the scientific community' problem is caused in a lot of ways, and this makes up part of it" is "bullying."
Stop defending someone after they've apologized. The argument is over at that point.
People can, in fact, apologize when they're not in the wrong, and calling admission of guilt a proof of guilt would mean that all those ladies burned at the stake were, in fact, witches.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.
by Central Slavia » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:26 pm
Galloism wrote:Central Slavia wrote:People can, in fact, apologize when they're not in the wrong, and calling admission of guilt a proof of guilt would mean that all those ladies burned at the stake were, in fact, witches.
Someone pointing out your shirt as potentially offensive is not the same as being tortured until you confess to witchcraft.
Glorious Homeland wrote:
You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.
Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions
Great Nepal wrote:Please stick to OFFICIAL numbers. Why to go to scholars,[cut]
by Lexcronica » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:28 pm
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Createnoxia- wrote:These feminists have gone too far, especially since his WIFE made him that shirt. I support gender equality, but this is pure bullying.
Yeah. Posting a comment on twitter that wearing a shirt covered in objectifying images of female bodies is probably not the best course of action at an international press conference, and saying "Hey, that whole 'Women are discouraged from joining in the scientific community' problem is caused in a lot of ways, and this makes up part of it" is "bullying."
Stop defending someone after they've apologized. The argument is over at that point.
by Settrah » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:29 pm
Galloism wrote:Central Slavia wrote:People can, in fact, apologize when they're not in the wrong, and calling admission of guilt a proof of guilt would mean that all those ladies burned at the stake were, in fact, witches.
Someone pointing out your shirt as potentially offensive is not the same as being tortured until you confess to witchcraft.
by Ostroeuropa » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:46 pm
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Createnoxia- wrote:These feminists have gone too far, especially since his WIFE made him that shirt. I support gender equality, but this is pure bullying.
Yeah. Posting a comment on twitter that wearing a shirt covered in objectifying images of female bodies is probably not the best course of action at an international press conference, and saying "Hey, that whole 'Women are discouraged from joining in the scientific community' problem is caused in a lot of ways, and this makes up part of it" is "bullying."
Stop defending someone after they've apologized. The argument is over at that point.
by Lexcronica » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:23 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Yeah. Posting a comment on twitter that wearing a shirt covered in objectifying images of female bodies is probably not the best course of action at an international press conference, and saying "Hey, that whole 'Women are discouraged from joining in the scientific community' problem is caused in a lot of ways, and this makes up part of it" is "bullying."
Stop defending someone after they've apologized. The argument is over at that point.
There isn't anything objectifying about it. That's just an imperialistic attitude.
You rock on up to the guy, see he's got, gosh, nudity as part of his attire, call him a barbarian and hand him a set of acceptable clothing and a bible.
No no, you see, you have to be sexually repressed, like us europeans.
You aren't allowed to go around naked or anything, that's evil. You're a sinner.
This attitude pervades most of our interpretations of feminism too.
It's a racist taint.
Feminism got this problem because of white middle class women dominating it. It's an expression of their racism, and the racists who historically influenced the movement.
He wore a shirt with some nude imagery on it.
So what.
Further, couple that with the fact that this attitude is largely coming from feminists as an expression of a womens ideology, and the fact that STEM is an all male field, this is an attempt at colonialist attitudes.
You rock on up to the native, tell him he's a barbarian and his ways are unacceptable, and force him to act the way you find acceptable.
(In this case, censorship of sexually explicit material, because we're a prudish culture.)
This is why when the feminist ideology goes places, it ends up fucking over males in the long term.
Like in education.
Because males under a feminist system have exactly the same problem as natives have. It's expressed differently, and to different degrees, but it's there.
Men have had their own segregated culture for centuries.
Just up and declaring it unacceptable is imperialist in theory and in practice.
As such, you can make a decent case that feminism is inherently imperialist at this point, as well as sexist.
The way you deal with someone displaying nude imagery is with "Oh hey, that's neat. Look at the art."
You know, like if you come across a native american statue of some nude stuff.
You dont flip your shit and call them misogynists. (Code: Barbarian.)
by Untaroicht » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:29 pm
by Benuty » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:30 pm
by The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:31 pm
The Blaatschapen wrote:Just to note, liberals are not sheep. Sheep are liberals ;)
by Central Slavia » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:32 pm
Glorious Homeland wrote:
You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.
Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions
Great Nepal wrote:Please stick to OFFICIAL numbers. Why to go to scholars,[cut]
by Benuty » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:33 pm
by Tahar Joblis » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:34 pm
by Untaroicht » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:35 pm
by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:36 pm
Untaroicht wrote:The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:We've been over this. Being criticized on twitter is not comparable in any meaningful way to being raped.
Bullshit. If a woman scientist was forced to apologize and was threatened to be fired for a revealing dress she wore at a press event, you hypocrites would be rioting in the streets.
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by Gauthier » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:36 pm
Untaroicht wrote:The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:We've been over this. Being criticized on twitter is not comparable in any meaningful way to being raped.
Bullshit. If a woman scientist was forced to apologize and was threatened to be fired for a revealing dress she wore at a press event, you hypocrites would be rioting in the streets.
by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:37 pm
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by The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:37 pm
Tahar Joblis wrote:The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:We've been over this. Being criticized on twitter is not comparable in any meaningful way to being raped.Avenio wrote:
You're conflating objectification with criticism.
Speaking of conflation... the image does not say "raped." The image says "objectified." Floating Island is a bit off.
The Blaatschapen wrote:Just to note, liberals are not sheep. Sheep are liberals ;)
by The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:38 pm
The Blaatschapen wrote:Just to note, liberals are not sheep. Sheep are liberals ;)
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