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Legless, Pregnant Rep. Denied Proxy Vote by Democrats

Postby The Fascist American Empire » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:50 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-deny-pregnant-rep-tammy-duckworth-proxy-vote/story?id=26915859

So basically, a Democratic Representative, who had lost both her legs while serving in Iraq, and has been warned by her doctor to not travel to Washington at this stage of her pregnancy, asked her party if she could vote by proxy. Now, this is not a bill/potential law, nor is it a Constitutional Amendment, but rather who will be the new majority leader in the Congress. Her own party's answer? "No."

Think about this for a minute: A Representative, who lost her legs in battle, is asking if she can just ask somebody to deliver her vote for her. Essentially she's asking for maternity leave. And her own party, not those "evil, woman-hating, racist Republicans" but the Democrats, deny her that. What the heck are they thinking? Last time I checked, the Left was all about women's equality, women's services (including maternity leave), and all sorts of women's issues. So, this just seems a little backwards to me. If anybody here feels that they can explain it, please feel free to do so. Please.
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Postby Icrum » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:52 pm

The Fascist American Empire wrote:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-deny-pregnant-rep-tammy-duckworth-proxy-vote/story?id=26915859

So basically, a Democratic Senator, who had lost both her legs while serving in Iraq, and has been warned by her doctor to not travel to Washington at this stage of her pregnancy, asked her party if she could vote by proxy. Now, this is not a bill/potential law, nor is it a Constitutional Amendment, but rather who will be the new majority leader in the Congress. Her own party's answer? "No."

Think about this for a minute: A Senator, who lost her legs in battle, is asking if she can just ask somebody to deliver her vote for her. Essentially she's asking for maternity leave. And her party, not those "evil, woman-hating, racist Republicans" but the Democrats, deny her that. What the heck are they thinking? Last time I checked, the Left was all about women's equality, women's services (including maternity leave), and all sorts of women's issues. So, this just seems a little backwards to me. If anybody here feels that they can explain it, please feel free to do so. Please.

Most politicians are corrupt. They just want what's in it for them. So denying someone a potential vote somehow helps them. I think that's stupid and that they should be dealt with accordingly.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:55 pm

What the hell is the rationale behind this?
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Postby Meowfoundland » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:55 pm

Tammy Duckworth is a representative, not a senator. Proxy voting is against the caucus rules. If they gave a proxy vote to her, why wouldn't they then have to give proxy votes to anyone else?
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:55 pm

Icrum wrote:
The Fascist American Empire wrote:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-deny-pregnant-rep-tammy-duckworth-proxy-vote/story?id=26915859

So basically, a Democratic Senator, who had lost both her legs while serving in Iraq, and has been warned by her doctor to not travel to Washington at this stage of her pregnancy, asked her party if she could vote by proxy. Now, this is not a bill/potential law, nor is it a Constitutional Amendment, but rather who will be the new majority leader in the Congress. Her own party's answer? "No."

Think about this for a minute: A Senator, who lost her legs in battle, is asking if she can just ask somebody to deliver her vote for her. Essentially she's asking for maternity leave. And her party, not those "evil, woman-hating, racist Republicans" but the Democrats, deny her that. What the heck are they thinking? Last time I checked, the Left was all about women's equality, women's services (including maternity leave), and all sorts of women's issues. So, this just seems a little backwards to me. If anybody here feels that they can explain it, please feel free to do so. Please.

Most politicians are corrupt. They just want what's in it for them. So denying someone a potential vote somehow helps them. I think that's stupid and that they should be dealt with accordingly.


Can't quite argue with that. The only good thing corruption ever gave us was that the government take-over of the internet is likely going to fail. Different thread though, if I'm not mistaken there is one already.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:55 pm

Meowfoundland wrote:Tammy Duckworth is a representative, not a senator. Proxy voting is against the caucus rules. If they gave a proxy vote to her, why wouldn't they then have to give proxy votes to anyone else?

Is that real? It seems a strange rule.
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:56 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:What the hell is the rationale behind this?

My question.

Americans, hands off Ukraine and let Russia do what they will in their own sphere of influence! You are not the world's police!
You obviously do since you posted a response like the shifty little red velvet pseudo ant you are. Yes I am onto your little tricks you hissing pest you exoskeleton brier patch you. Now crawl back in to that patch of grass you call hell and hiss some more. -Benuty
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:57 pm

Meowfoundland wrote:Tammy Duckworth is a representative, not a senator. Proxy voting is against the caucus rules. If they gave a proxy vote to her, why wouldn't they then have to give proxy votes to anyone else?


Oops, fixing.

Also, I'm quite certain that this would be one of those exception cases. Or at least it should be.

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You obviously do since you posted a response like the shifty little red velvet pseudo ant you are. Yes I am onto your little tricks you hissing pest you exoskeleton brier patch you. Now crawl back in to that patch of grass you call hell and hiss some more. -Benuty
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Postby Tubbsalot » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:57 pm

proxy voting is explicitly against caucus rules


Yup, there it is, right at the beginning of the third paragraph. That's probably why, don't you think? It's explicitly forbidden, and they don't want to go to the effort of changing it? Lazy, but understandable?

No, the democrats hate women, and hate war heroes, and they also hate themselves and don't want their own members to vote. This is the only reasonable explanation.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:57 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:What the hell is the rationale behind this?

Well, the U.S. government isn't really known for being rational or logical....

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Postby Norstal » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:59 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:What the hell is the rationale behind this?

Well, the U.S. government isn't really known for being rational or logical....

Or you know, party politics.
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:59 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:
proxy voting is explicitly against caucus rules


Yup, there it is, right at the beginning of the third paragraph. That's probably why, don't you think? It's explicitly forbidden, and they don't want to go to the effort of changing it? Lazy, but understandable?

No, the democrats hate women, and hate war heroes, and they also hate themselves and don't want their own members to vote. This is the only reasonable explanation.


If I openly agree, I'll probably be pummeled.

I agree 100% with you I'm just scared to say so.
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Americans, hands off Ukraine and let Russia do what they will in their own sphere of influence! You are not the world's police!
You obviously do since you posted a response like the shifty little red velvet pseudo ant you are. Yes I am onto your little tricks you hissing pest you exoskeleton brier patch you. Now crawl back in to that patch of grass you call hell and hiss some more. -Benuty
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Norstal wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Well, the U.S. government isn't really known for being rational or logical....

Or you know, party politics.

Or anything,apart from burgers and obesity.
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No way.

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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:02 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Norstal wrote:Or you know, party politics.

Or anything,apart from burgers and obesity.

Which go hand in hand. Or should I say, hand to mouth?
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Americans, hands off Ukraine and let Russia do what they will in their own sphere of influence! You are not the world's police!
You obviously do since you posted a response like the shifty little red velvet pseudo ant you are. Yes I am onto your little tricks you hissing pest you exoskeleton brier patch you. Now crawl back in to that patch of grass you call hell and hiss some more. -Benuty
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:15 pm

Is this thread already dead? You'd think that such an issue would be exploding on NS.

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You obviously do since you posted a response like the shifty little red velvet pseudo ant you are. Yes I am onto your little tricks you hissing pest you exoskeleton brier patch you. Now crawl back in to that patch of grass you call hell and hiss some more. -Benuty
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Postby Pimps Inc » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:24 pm

NS?No one else?
Wow.
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No way.

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Postby Icrum » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:26 pm

The Fascist American Empire wrote:Is this thread already dead? You'd think that such an issue would be exploding on NS.

They're to busy RPing and shitting on each others religious beliefs.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:29 pm

The Fascist American Empire wrote:So basically, a Democratic Representative, who had lost both her legs while serving in Iraq, and has been warned by her doctor to not travel to Washington at this stage of her pregnancy, asked her party if she could vote by proxy. Now, this is not a bill/potential law, nor is it a Constitutional Amendment, but rather who will be the new majority leader in the Congress. Her own party's answer? "No."

Think about this for a minute: A Representative, who lost her legs in battle, is asking if she can just ask somebody to deliver her vote for her. Essentially she's asking for maternity leave. And her own party, not those "evil, woman-hating, racist Republicans" but the Democrats, deny her that. What the heck are they thinking? Last time I checked, the Left was all about women's equality, women's services (including maternity leave), and all sorts of women's issues. So, this just seems a little backwards to me. If anybody here feels that they can explain it, please feel free to do so. Please.

Your article spells it out quite clearly. They don't allow proxy voting. They considered it, but felt if they allowed Duckworth to proxy vote they'd have to allow others, and if everyone was allowed to have a proxy vote, they wouldn't be able to have a secret ballot. Nothing to do with her being a woman, pregnant, disabled, or a veteran.

And since you brought up the Republicans and are clearly so strongly in favour of it, can you tell us if the Republican caucus allows proxy voting?


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Tubbsalot wrote:
Yup, there it is, right at the beginning of the third paragraph. That's probably why, don't you think? It's explicitly forbidden, and they don't want to go to the effort of changing it? Lazy, but understandable?

No, the democrats hate women, and hate war heroes, and they also hate themselves and don't want their own members to vote. This is the only reasonable explanation.


If I openly agree, I'll probably be pummeled.

I agree 100% with you I'm just scared to say so.

You get that your obvious partisan bias is being mocked and that writing things in small text doesn't keep people from reading them, yeah?
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Postby Myrensis » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:36 pm

The Fascist American Empire wrote:Is this thread already dead? You'd think that such an issue would be exploding on NS.


Exploding about the Democrats upholding a rule regarding voting within their own caucus? If it hadn't had the emotional bait of 'disabled pregnant veteran' would you have even bothered posting about it?

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Pimps Inc wrote:NS?No one else?
Wow.
The Fascist American Empire wrote:Is this thread already dead? You'd think that such an issue would be exploding on NS.


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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:43 pm

I'd also like to note that "legless" is a rather tasteless way to refer to someone actually lacking legs, which only highlights your complete lack of respect for this Rep. Duckworth.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:49 pm

Ifreann wrote:I'd also like to note that "legless" is a rather tasteless way to refer to someone actually lacking legs, which only highlights your complete lack of respect for this Rep. Duckworth.


I assumed she was just pissed, so keeping her vote away seemed like a good idea...

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Postby Planita » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:51 pm

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:52 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'd also like to note that "legless" is a rather tasteless way to refer to someone actually lacking legs, which only highlights your complete lack of respect for this Rep. Duckworth.


I assumed she was just pissed, so keeping her vote away seemed like a good idea...

And there's already a thread about the moral dilemma that is drinking while pregnant and a Democrat.
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