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Postby Calimera II » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:03 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Enterovirus D68 wrote:So what if two humans one male and one female have both been drinking?

I'm not sure. I'm a virgin and I plan never getting drunk.

If it is violent, abusive, threatening, pushy somehow, it is abusive. Just like a drunk person beating another drunk person.

If it is not, though, there's no power dynamics. So it's just mindless action that both might or might not regret.


I honestly do not think most of us "plan" on getting drunk, it just happens and you learn from it.

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Postby Firsthome » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:03 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Enterovirus D68 wrote:So what if two humans one male and one female have both been drinking?

I'm not sure. I'm a virgin and I plan never getting drunk.

If it is violent, abusive, threatening, pushy somehow, it is abusive. Just like a drunk person beating another drunk person.

If it is not, though, there's no power dynamics. So it's just mindless action that both might or might not regret.


I agree

Oh. And scow creek is wrong about guys Being sluts
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Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:04 pm

Firsthome wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:I'm not sure. I'm a virgin and I plan never getting drunk.

If it is violent, abusive, threatening, pushy somehow, it is abusive. Just like a drunk person beating another drunk person.

If it is not, though, there's no power dynamics. So it's just mindless action that both might or might not regret.


I agree

Oh. And scow creek is wrong about guys Being sluts

They're tramps. Huge difference.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:04 pm

Scow Creek wrote:Spoken like a feminist-indoctrinated 21 year old spewing the party line.

Let me let you in on a secret, oh ye of little sexual experience: when people engage in sex, they don't play "Mother May I? They don't ask a series of questions:
"May I touch your boob?
May I suck on your nipple?
May I touch your twat?
May I pull out my dick?"
May I rub against you?
May I insert this into your wide open legs?"

No, they simply progress from one act to another as they respond to each other's physicality. Consent is RARELY, IF EVER, "Verbal." That is a legal FANTASY created by feminists which slam-dunk convict young men who have done nothing wrong.

Do you think your non-intentional maybe but still misogyny-tainted MRA-like discourse scares my sense of ethics?

Of course you need to ask someone if they want sex before actually starting to engage in it. And generally, giving a time to listen or mention your and your partner's specifics, that might include a significant barrier, if it's your first time.

That people disrespect this is no excuse to not have this standard. You are not entitled to other people's bodies. How hard is to understand that?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:04 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I'm territorial in certain aspects, but I have the confidence to pull it off. It also is reassuring that if my wife wants to have a casual fling that she can be open about it and not go behind my back and do it, as that'd be more painful to me than her telling me she wants to sleep with another man up front and asking for my consent.

In other words, I appreciate upfront communication than back stabbing. Then again that's me and my perception of things after living through a lot of shit.


Oh, I understand. Keeping things honest is always a must in a relationship. More so in open relationships.


Yea, and I mean, I won't feel bad as in "what does he have that I don't?" because all I expect from my partner under such an arrangement is that she thinks I'm the best fuck in the planet and that she loves me for who I am :p
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:05 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Oh, I understand. Keeping things honest is always a must in a relationship. More so in open relationships.


Yea, and I mean, I won't feel bad as in "what does he have that I don't?" because all I expect from my partner under such an arrangement is that she thinks I'm the best fuck in the planet and that she loves me for who I am :p


That's what we need. The point of view from a polyamorous person.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:05 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Firsthome wrote:
I agree

Oh. And scow creek is wrong about guys Being sluts

They're tramps. Huge difference.


We're tramps? :(
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Postby Firsthome » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:06 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Scow Creek wrote:Spoken like a feminist-indoctrinated 21 year old spewing the party line.

Let me let you in on a secret, oh ye of little sexual experience: when people engage in sex, they don't play "Mother May I? They don't ask a series of questions:
"May I touch your boob?
May I suck on your nipple?
May I touch your twat?
May I pull out my dick?"
May I rub against you?
May I insert this into your wide open legs?"

No, they simply progress from one act to another as they respond to each other's physicality. Consent is RARELY, IF EVER, "Verbal." That is a legal FANTASY created by feminists which slam-dunk convict young men who have done nothing wrong.

Do you think your non-intentional maybe but still misogyny-tainted MRA-like discourse scares my sense of ethics?

Of course you need to ask someone if they want sex before actually starting to engage in it. And generally, giving a time to listen or mention your and your partner's specifics, that might include a significant barrier, if it's your first time.

That people disrespect this is no excuse to not have this standard. You are not entitled to other people's bodies. How hard is to understand that?


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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:06 pm

Calimera II wrote:I honestly do not think most of us "plan" on getting drunk, it just happens and you learn from it.

I had cheap wine headache without getting drunk so I will avoid alcohol altogether to the most part.
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Postby Scow Creek » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:06 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Of course you need to ask someone if they want sex before actually starting to engage in it.


I'll bet sex with you is as exciting and spontaneous as sex with Dr. Sheldon Cooper.

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Postby Calimera II » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:07 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Calimera II wrote:I honestly do not think most of us "plan" on getting drunk, it just happens and you learn from it.

I had cheap wine headache without getting drunk so I will avoid alcohol altogether to the most part.


Sure it was because of the wine? And how many glasses did you drink?

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Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:07 pm

Scow Creek wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:No, it works the same both ways.

Consent for sex is voluntary, sober, enthusiastic, verbal, non-coerced, continual, active, honest and isn't taking in the place of an important power relationship (especially so when there's a significant, inherent cognitive difference: people shift from adolescent to adult brains at the 18-25 age bracket).

Lack of consent is sexual abuse.

Simples.


Spoken like a feminist-indoctrinated 21 year old spewing the party line.

Let me let you in on a secret, oh ye of little sexual experience: when people engage in sex, they don't play "Mother May I? They don't ask a series of questions:
"May I touch your boob?
May I suck on your nipple?
May I touch your twat?
May I pull out my dick?"
May I rub against you?
May I insert this into your wide open legs?"

No, they simply progress from one act to another as they respond to each other's physicality. Consent is RARELY, IF EVER, "Verbal." That is a legal FANTASY created by feminists which slam-dunk convict young men who have done nothing wrong.

Urg. You're doing it wrong.

Replace "may I" with "I'm going to" and encourage a positive response ("I'm going to suck your tits" is followed by "yeah, suck my tits," or somesuch.) Not only does it unambiguously clear up consent issues, it's fucking hot.
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Postby The 502nd SS » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:08 pm

Scow Creek wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Of course you need to ask someone if they want sex before actually starting to engage in it.


I'll bet sex with you is as exciting and spontaneous as sex with Dr. Sheldon Cooper.

By that you mean it doesn't happen.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:08 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Yea, and I mean, I won't feel bad as in "what does he have that I don't?" because all I expect from my partner under such an arrangement is that she thinks I'm the best fuck in the planet and that she loves me for who I am :p


That's what we need. The point of view from a polyamorous person.


I might be polyamorous, I dunno :p

I just think polygamy is great, but I'm not sure if I'm into polyamory.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:08 pm

Scow Creek wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Of course you need to ask someone if they want sex before actually starting to engage in it.

I'll bet sex with you is as exciting and spontaneous as sex with Dr. Sheldon Cooper.

Virgin/dull in bed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>³ *abyss* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>³ *hell* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>³ toxic, barren alternative dimensions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>³ rapists

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:09 pm

Yet another thread that turns into a match between non-feminists and feminists. Should I start keeping score?
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Postby Calimera II » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:09 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Scow Creek wrote:
Spoken like a feminist-indoctrinated 21 year old spewing the party line.

Let me let you in on a secret, oh ye of little sexual experience: when people engage in sex, they don't play "Mother May I? They don't ask a series of questions:
"May I touch your boob?
May I suck on your nipple?
May I touch your twat?
May I pull out my dick?"
May I rub against you?
May I insert this into your wide open legs?"

No, they simply progress from one act to another as they respond to each other's physicality. Consent is RARELY, IF EVER, "Verbal." That is a legal FANTASY created by feminists which slam-dunk convict young men who have done nothing wrong.

Urg. You're doing it wrong.

Replace "may I" with "I'm going to" and encourage a positive response ("I'm going to suck your tits" is followed by "yeah, suck my tits," or somesuch.) Not only does it unambiguously clear up consent issues, it's fucking hot.


Uhm.. I think it's pretty dumb to ask permission for everything, if someone doesn't like what his partner is doing he/she will say it and that's it.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:09 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Scow Creek wrote:
Spoken like a feminist-indoctrinated 21 year old spewing the party line.

Let me let you in on a secret, oh ye of little sexual experience: when people engage in sex, they don't play "Mother May I? They don't ask a series of questions:
"May I touch your boob?
May I suck on your nipple?
May I touch your twat?
May I pull out my dick?"
May I rub against you?
May I insert this into your wide open legs?"

No, they simply progress from one act to another as they respond to each other's physicality. Consent is RARELY, IF EVER, "Verbal." That is a legal FANTASY created by feminists which slam-dunk convict young men who have done nothing wrong.

Urg. You're doing it wrong.

Replace "may I" with "I'm going to" and encourage a positive response ("I'm going to suck your tits" is followed by "yeah, suck my tits," or somesuch.) Not only does it unambiguously clear up consent issues, it's fucking hot.


I find instinctual response hotter.

If my partner is into it and we don't have to speak our minds out I find it much better than speaking. Then again it requires for both partners to look at each other as people and pay attention to one another.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:09 pm

Calimera II wrote:Sure it was because of the wine? And how many glasses did you drink?

250ml diluted in water, with sugar.

My liver is very fragile from past antibiotics overuse.
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:10 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Yet another thread that turns into a match between non-feminists and feminists. Should I start keeping score?


Yes. We'll need a commentator too.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:10 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
That's what we need. The point of view from a polyamorous person.


I might be polyamorous, I dunno :p

I just think polygamy is great, but I'm not sure if I'm into polyamory.


Then you're ok with your partner having others but not yourself?
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Postby Firsthome » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:10 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Scow Creek wrote:I'll bet sex with you is as exciting and spontaneous as sex with Dr. Sheldon Cooper.

Virgin/dull in bed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>³ *abyss* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>³ *hell* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>³ toxic, barren alternative dimensions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>³ rapists

:)


:clap:

You are smart

Scow is a whore

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Postby Bahlz » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:10 pm

sex is a gift from god to celebrate marriage and children and it shouldn't be abused.

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Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:10 pm

Calimera II wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Urg. You're doing it wrong.

Replace "may I" with "I'm going to" and encourage a positive response ("I'm going to suck your tits" is followed by "yeah, suck my tits," or somesuch.) Not only does it unambiguously clear up consent issues, it's fucking hot.


Uhm.. I think it's pretty dumb to ask permission for everything, if someone doesn't like what his partner is doing he/she will say it and that's it.

Well you don't ask permission for everything, but you do keep a running dialog. Silent sex is boring.
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