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Eitusian
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Postby Eitusian » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:21 pm

It's reproduction. That's it's meaning to me. :hug:

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Postby Duvniask » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:48 pm

Eitusian wrote:It's reproduction. That's it's meaning to me. :hug:

Why not pleasure (especially in the form of intimacy and love)?
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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:50 pm

A useless, if somewhat enjoyable, distraction. Considering the amount of time, effort and material resource investment it usually takes to find a mate, the end result is simply not worth the trouble, and personally I just don't find sex to be such an important and exquisite pleasure as to bother with hiring whores as an alternative. Frankly I don't even get why many people find it so important.

While I won't pass an opportune moment to hook up, should one come by, a trip to the shooting range, a three-day boat trip or a good old pub crawl with friends is generally a much more worthwhile form of recreation in my eyes.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:52 pm

Esternial wrote:It depends on who's participating. It's only as meaningful as the relationship you have with whomever you're doing it with. It can either be a meaningful act of love or simply a means to achieve pleasure.

Both are very different kinds of sex, or at least to me they are.

Same opinion.

And also why I'm not experienced. I want the meaningful one first for many personal psychological and philosophical reasons. Most people I know seem to commend it.
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Postby Scow Creek » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:10 pm

Kind of shocked as to how many of you young people are so rigidly locked in this weird paradigm that says sex is for marriage only, or sex is best fwith your true love only, or that its best to wait.

What a load of hogwash, invented by neo-puritanical religious freaks. I suspect many of you that embrace this horseshit because it's a good 'cover' for your virginity or insecurities about sex.

No one every grows old and regrets having had an active, varied, sex life. Plenty grow old and wish they weren't so damned rigid with themselves when they were young and could enjoy sex.

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:12 pm

Scow Creek wrote:Kind of shocked as to how many of you young people are so rigidly locked in this weird paradigm that says sex is for marriage only, or sex is best fwith your true love only, or that its best to wait.

What a load of hogwash, invented by neo-puritanical religious freaks. I suspect many of you that embrace this horseshit because it's a good 'cover' for your virginity or insecurities about sex.

No one every grows old and regrets having had an active, varied, sex life. Plenty grow old and wish they weren't so damned rigid with themselves when they were young and could enjoy sex.

Some people don't think it's all that great or important. That's just as valid. Stop trying to shame people for not thinking sex should be their top priority.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:13 pm

Scow Creek wrote:No one every grows old and regrets having had an active, varied, sex life.

I'm from Brazil where the average age to lose your virginity is the second lowest in the world so far as research goes and I know PLENTY, PLENTY, PLENTY of people who would have preferred to have had it later or with a romantic partner.

I agree 'marriage-only' and similar is bullshit though.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
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S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
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Postby Frisiiland » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:14 pm

Fucking is fucking fun for fucks sake.

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Postby Scow Creek » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:28 pm

Frisiiland wrote:Fucking is fucking fun for fucks sake.


BINGO. Glad someone else gets it!

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Postby The 502nd SS » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:29 pm

Scow Creek wrote:Kind of shocked as to how many of you young people are so rigidly locked in this weird paradigm that says sex is for marriage only, or sex is best fwith your true love only, or that its best to wait.

What a load of hogwash, invented by neo-puritanical religious freaks. I suspect many of you that embrace this horseshit because it's a good 'cover' for your virginity or insecurities about sex.

No one every grows old and regrets having had an active, varied, sex life. Plenty grow old and wish they weren't so damned rigid with themselves when they were young and could enjoy sex.

I'm a virgin and I would most likely fuck up my first time. Honestly I believe sex should only be with someone you love and not some random stranger. I'm not sure on the whole 'marriage before sex' thing, because I at least want a chance before I leave for BCT in july.
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Postby Scow Creek » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:31 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:Some people don't think it's all that great or important. That's just as valid. Stop trying to shame people for not thinking sex should be their top priority.


Never said "top" priority. But the fact is sex is a strong, normal, human drive...and damned enjoyable. Most people who retreat into a more conservative mode are denying basic biological, evolutionary urges....and often do so because its a 'safe' cover for fears or insecurities. If you're not getting any, it's easier to 'protect' yourself with religious or philosophical clichés than it is to bust out and face your fears and poor self-image.

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Postby Scow Creek » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:32 pm

The 502nd SS wrote:I'm a virgin and I would most likely fuck up my first time.


You will fuck up. You learn to laugh about it and try again. Best to do that when you're not nervous about making a good impression :-)

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Postby Calimera II » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:33 pm

Frisiiland wrote:Fucking is fucking fun for fucks sake.

That's daaaa spirit.

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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:35 pm

Scow Creek wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Some people don't think it's all that great or important. That's just as valid. Stop trying to shame people for not thinking sex should be their top priority.


Never said "top" priority. But the fact is sex is a strong, normal, human drive...and damned enjoyable. Most people who retreat into a more conservative mode are denying basic biological, evolutionary urges....and often do so because its a 'safe' cover for fears or insecurities. If you're not getting any, it's easier to 'protect' yourself with religious or philosophical clichés than it is to bust out and face your fears and poor self-image.


Humans differ from animals with the ability to control and resist those base urges. I think exercising restraint over them is therefore more human than indulging them.
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Postby Calimera II » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:35 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Scow Creek wrote:No one every grows old and regrets having had an active, varied, sex life.

I'm from Brazil where the average age to lose your virginity is the second lowest in the world so far as research goes and I know PLENTY, PLENTY, PLENTY of people who would have preferred to have had it later or with a romantic partner.

I agree 'marriage-only' and similar is bullshit though.


The low age probably also has something to do with the uneducated part of the inhabitants of the slums.

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Postby The 502nd SS » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:36 pm

Scow Creek wrote:
The 502nd SS wrote:I'm a virgin and I would most likely fuck up my first time.


You will fuck up. You learn to laugh about it and try again. Best to do that when you're not nervous about making a good impression :-)

I'm in high school and I'm socially awkward, how the heck would I find someone willing to have sex with me?
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Postby Theorett » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:41 pm

The 502nd SS wrote:
Scow Creek wrote:
You will fuck up. You learn to laugh about it and try again. Best to do that when you're not nervous about making a good impression :-)

I'm in high school and I'm socially awkward, how the heck would I find someone willing to have sex with me?
Ask some girls to fuck you, the ugly ones are more likely to accept. Just be friendly, do it in private and respect the word no.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:41 pm

Calimera II wrote:The low age probably also has something to do with the uneducated part of the inhabitants of the slums.

An average of 11 among the poor and 14 among the middle and upper classes is still an epidemics of excessively premature sex for all, and to a certain extent normalized abuse, so it's no joke. :|
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Postby The 502nd SS » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:43 pm

Theorett wrote:
The 502nd SS wrote:I'm in high school and I'm socially awkward, how the heck would I find someone willing to have sex with me?
Ask some girls to fuck you, the ugly ones are more likely to accept. Just be friendly, do it in private and respect the word no.

:o is it that easy?
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:43 pm

The 502nd SS wrote:
Scow Creek wrote:
You will fuck up. You learn to laugh about it and try again. Best to do that when you're not nervous about making a good impression :-)

I'm in high school and I'm socially awkward, how the heck would I find someone willing to have sex with me?

He doesn't know, don't ask. Try to keep in mind more people might be open to it than you think. If you trust that they care about your feelings, try to close the physical gap when you're alone. Sit closer, try for the arm around. If she doesn't get in closer or respond positively it's not gonna happen but at least you gave it a try and respected her feelings. If you're not confident you can tell by actions, try to have a conversation about it.
All aboard the Love Train. Choo Choo, honeybears. I am Ininiwiyaw Rocopurr:Get in my bed, you perfect human being.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:44 pm

The 502nd SS wrote: :o is it that easy?

Of course you need charm, and even then most won't care.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Postby Theorett » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:46 pm

The 502nd SS wrote:
Theorett wrote: Ask some girls to fuck you, the ugly ones are more likely to accept. Just be friendly, do it in private and respect the word no.

:o is it that easy?
Yes, ugly girls are more likely to accept. Just be nice and have sex with only sober girls who are of legal age.
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Postby Calimera II » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:46 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Calimera II wrote:The low age probably als has something to do with the uneducated part of the inhabitants of the slums.

An average of 11 among the poor and 14 among the middle and upper classes is still an epidemics of excessively premature sex for all, and to a certain extent normalized abuse, so it's no joke. :|


Ew. 11 years among the poor.

In Argentina it is the same. The poor are not as well educated as the middle and the upper class. The types of clothes they were are different, they listen to cumbia, they speak in a more uneducated way and have less manners.. Not all of them of course, but quite a large part of the poor I would say.

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:48 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
The 502nd SS wrote: :o is it that easy?

Of course you need charm, and even then most won't care.

American high school girls aren't that great about it. They're usually harboring lots of anxiety and internalized misogyny, afraid of "being a slut" etc so don't be pushy or forward and ALWAYS respect their answers.
All aboard the Love Train. Choo Choo, honeybears. I am Ininiwiyaw Rocopurr:Get in my bed, you perfect human being.
Yesterday's just a memory

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Postby Frisiiland » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:49 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Calimera II wrote:The low age probably also has something to do with the uneducated part of the inhabitants of the slums.

An average of 11 among the poor and 14 among the middle and upper classes is still an epidemics of excessively premature sex for all, and to a certain extent normalized abuse, so it's no joke. :|
A source please, because it seems to be rougly 16.
https://www.durex.com/en-jp/sexualwellbeingsurvey/documents/global_report_2000.pdf
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