If the Bible is divinely inspired, then why are there so many inaccuracies and mistakes?
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by Benuty » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:30 pm
by The New Sea Territory » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:35 pm
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by The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:37 pm
The New Sea Territory wrote:Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
That is quite an absurd thing to say. The Qur'an is the real meatgrinder.
Nope. Christianity has been around longer and has sparked more wars than Islam. Doesn't make Islam better, since they are both incorrect, contradictory, baseless religions.
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by Vindex Nation » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:41 pm
Stormwind-City wrote:Atlanticatia wrote:
Well, the Pope has made another (relatively) progressive statement. In the past, the Catholic Church has alluded to backing evolution, however it was qualified by 'intelligent design'. He has actually declared support for the idea that the Big Bang theory and evolution are real - however that they were 'started' by God.
I think this is definitely one of the most progressive/secular statements made by the Church. Pope Francis has increasingly supported various secular ideas, such as being less intense about opposition to LGBT people, contraception, etc, and other things that were once very taboo for the Church. He shows a much more open-minded, in my opinion. I think that saying that 'God doesn't have a magic wand' is a pretty big deal for the Catholic Church. It reflects the ideas about religion that many religious (and irreligious) people may have in the 21st century. Although the Catholic Church is far from being a progressive or modern institution, it has come a long way under Pope Francis.
I think that the Pope, and whoever is predecessor is (if he is progressive, too) could continue the modernization of the Church, even if it is a very slow process. Pope Francis seems to do this modernization in a very slow way that won't offend anyone too much, while keeping up largely with public opinion. I really wish he'd just declare complete support for all the things the Church opposes, but I doubt that'd ever happen in the near or medium future.
So, NSG, what are your thoughts on this? Is Pope Francis really as progressive as everyone says he is? Is this a big deal? What's the future for the modernization of the Church?
The day that the Church OKs LGBTs and contraceptived(maybe abortion), I hope this site is still around so I can see certain poster's The Flood heads explode.
by Coccygia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:43 pm
by Nerotysia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:45 pm
Vindex Nation wrote:Stormwind-City wrote:The day that the Church OKs LGBTs and contraceptived(maybe abortion), I hope this site is still around so I can see certain poster's The Flood heads explode.
The curch would never "OK" Abortion. It will never "OK" anything on the list of the Five Non-Negotiables.
here they are -> http://www.stjoseph-marysville.org/faqn ... ables.html
by Vindex Nation » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:49 pm
Nerotysia wrote:Vindex Nation wrote:The curch would never "OK" Abortion. It will never "OK" anything on the list of the Five Non-Negotiables.
here they are -> http://www.stjoseph-marysville.org/faqn ... ables.html
Sure. It was once essentially a "non-negotiable" fact that the Earth was the center of the universe.
Actually, I hope you're right, and that the Church refuses to ever compromise on those issues. It will make them seem as archaic as they are and hopefully it will encourage people to leave the Church in the dust bin of history, where it belongs.
by Nerotysia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:52 pm
Vindex Nation wrote:Nerotysia wrote:Sure. It was once essentially a "non-negotiable" fact that the Earth was the center of the universe.
Actually, I hope you're right, and that the Church refuses to ever compromise on those issues. It will make them seem as archaic as they are and hopefully it will encourage people to leave the Church in the dust bin of history, where it belongs.
I Hope I am right to, as a Catholic myself I sure hope it doesn't negotiate upon these beliefs. (there is a deference between a fact and a belief you know.)
by Arumdaum » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:54 pm
Old Tyrannia wrote:God may not be a magician with a magic wand, but Pope Francis must be. His ability to make everyone praise him without actually saying anything different to what his predecessors have said for over a century (and in some cases for millennia) is surely magical.
by Shaggai » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:03 pm
Old Tyrannia wrote:God may not be a magician with a magic wand, but Pope Francis must be. His ability to make everyone praise him without actually saying anything different to what his predecessors have said for over a century (and in some cases for millennia) is surely magical.
by Eleanor Ritas » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:05 pm
Shaggai wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:God may not be a magician with a magic wand, but Pope Francis must be. His ability to make everyone praise him without actually saying anything different to what his predecessors have said for over a century (and in some cases for millennia) is surely magical.
If the universe were a bad sci-fi movie, he would turn out to be an alien with a mind-control device.
by Shaggai » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:07 pm
Eleanor Ritas wrote:Shaggai wrote:If the universe were a bad sci-fi movie, he would turn out to be an alien with a mind-control device.
Palpatine wasn't working, so they switched to a Brazilian Obi Wan circa Alec Guinness.
Now he does the Jedi Mind Trick.
"We believe in feeding the poor."
*waves crust of bread and can of tuna*
HOLY SHIT, THIS GUY IS CONTROVERSIAL!!!
by Senyosu » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:11 pm
Eleanor Ritas wrote:Shaggai wrote:If the universe were a bad sci-fi movie, he would turn out to be an alien with a mind-control device.
Palpatine wasn't working, so they switched to a Brazilian Obi Wan circa Alec Guinness.
Now he does the Jedi Mind Trick.
"We believe in feeding the poor."
*waves crust of bread and can of tuna*
HOLY SHIT, THIS GUY IS CONTROVERSIAL!!!
by Constantinopolis » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:18 pm
Nerotysia wrote:Sure. It was once essentially a "non-negotiable" fact that the Earth was the center of the universe.
by Geilinor » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:27 pm
by Senyosu » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:27 pm
by Constantinopolis » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:28 pm
by Constantinopolis » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:32 pm
Utceforp wrote:If the Bible is divinely inspired, then why are there so many inaccuracies and mistakes?
by Keventle » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:34 pm
Constantinopolis wrote:Utceforp wrote:If the Bible is divinely inspired, then why are there so many inaccuracies and mistakes?
It's not a bug, it's a feature. The Bible is supposed to convey a message about life, death, and the universe. It's not supposed to be "89153 Random Facts You Didn't Know About the Ancient World".
by Forty Twoania » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:38 pm
by Keventle » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:39 pm
Forty Twoania wrote:Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
That is quite an absurd thing to say. The Qur'an is the real meatgrinder.
I don't know how you can say that. Christianity is just as bad as Islam. The political situation in the Middle East today is literally an exact copy of the situation in Medieval Europe. Medieval Europe was probably even worse since it was completely domninated by the Catholic Church, at least the Middle East today has people who are fighting for Secularism and Democracy
by Forty Twoania » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:50 pm
Keventle wrote:Forty Twoania wrote:I don't know how you can say that. Christianity is just as bad as Islam. The political situation in the Middle East today is literally an exact copy of the situation in Medieval Europe. Medieval Europe was probably even worse since it was completely domninated by the Catholic Church, at least the Middle East today has people who are fighting for Secularism and Democracy
It's bad because extremist have overturned the religion into some cult. Muslim people are actually very peaceful people.
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