Hong Kong democracy!!!

[FutureAmerica]

Beijing is showing it's true colors when it comes to Hong Kong rule.
It wants to put up candidates of it's own choosing for Hong Kong to vote on. It's a sham, just like the Beijing government itself, hopelessly corrupt and losing its mandate.
The world needs to be aware of Beijing and it's intent.
If China doesn't go through its own political reform it will collapes just like the Soviet Union in 1989.

[Humans Are People Too]

Beijing is showing it's true colors when it comes to Hong Kong rule.
It wants to put up candidates of it's own choosing for Hong Kong to vote on. It's a sham, just like the Beijing government itself, hopelessly corrupt and losing its mandate.
The world needs to be aware of Beijing and it's intent.
If China doesn't go through its own political reform it will collapes just like the Soviet Union in 1989.

Okay? What are we to discuss?

[T Roosevelt]

Once China becomes a capitalist democracy those North Korean communists will have to do the same.

[T Roosevelt]

Beijing is showing it's true colors when it comes to Hong Kong rule.
It wants to put up candidates of it's own choosing for Hong Kong to vote on. It's a sham, just like the Beijing government itself, hopelessly corrupt and losing its mandate.
The world needs to be aware of Beijing and it's intent.
If China doesn't go through its own political reform it will collapes just like the Soviet Union in 1989.

Okay? What are we to say?

You shouldn't have to be told what to say, son.

[The New Sea Territory]

Once China becomes a capitalist democracy those North Korean communists will have to do the same.

So many oxymorons. "Capitalist Democracy", North Korea is "communist"...

[The United Territories of Providence]

Well what can you expect from the Communists? The sooner Communism is swept into the ash heap of History, and China fully embraces Democracy and Capitalism the better.

[Pine Island]

Once China becomes a capitalist democracy those North Korean communists will have to do the same.

I fully agree, 100%.

[Kahel]

Asia Spring, anyone?

Good old market capitalism, changing the world one former communist state at a time. Whether its changing the world for the better or not is yet to be seen.

As for Hong Kong, there's too much western coverage of this issue to let China do everything it wants. I think the students will prevail, one way or another, or we get a compromise.

[Sebastianbourg]

Beijing is showing it's true colors when it comes to Hong Kong rule.
It wants to put up candidates of it's own choosing for Hong Kong to vote on. It's a sham, just like the Beijing government itself, hopelessly corrupt and losing its mandate.
The world needs to be aware of Beijing and it's intent.
If China doesn't go through its own political reform it will collapes just like the Soviet Union in 1989.

1) We've known the PRC is authoritarian for a while now;
2) They're (the Hong Kongers) protesting because they know it's a sham;
3) We already know Beijing's intent;
4) China doesn't really have to worry about political reform; they've got to worry about a change to their unsustainable economic policies.

[Threlizdun]

Well what can you expect from the Communists? The sooner Communism is swept into the ash heap of History, and China fully embraces Democracy and Capitalism the better.

1. China isn't communist.
2. They already embraced capitalism
3. Democracy natural opposes capitalism

[Gauthier]

Once China becomes a capitalist democracy those North Korean communists will have to do the same.

I fully agree, 100%.

It took Guns N' Roses 15 years to get Chinese Democracy. It'll take a hell of a lot longer for China.

[Utceforp]

Well what can you expect from the Communists? The sooner Communism is swept into the ash heap of History, and China fully embraces Democracy and Capitalism the better.

China is really not Communist anymore, IMO. They've gone from Communist dictatorship to regular old dictatorship, it's democracy that needs to be introduced to China, not capitalism.

[Humans Are People Too]

Once China becomes a capitalist democracy those North Korean communists will have to do the same.

A successful nation would implement different ideologies to prosper instead of hoping it will work with one.

[Sebastianbourg]

Asia Spring, anyone?

Good old market capitalism, changing the world one former communist state at a time. Whether its changing the world for the better or not is yet to be seen.

As for Hong Kong, there's too much western coverage of this issue to let China do everything it wants. I think the students will prevail, one way or another, or we get a compromise.

1) Asian Spring isn't happening. There might be protests here and there but I highly doubt there will be any significant change.
2) If you change good old market capitalism to Rhine Capitalism or Social-Market economy I'd agree with you.
3) The protests are (sadly) going to die-out eventually because the protesters will think of their struggle as an hopeless, pointless one.

[Sebastianbourg]

Well what can you expect from the Communists? The sooner Communism is swept into the ash heap of History, and China fully embraces Democracy and Capitalism the better.

China is really not Communist anymore, IMO. They've gone from Communist dictatorship to regular old dictatorship, it's democracy that needs to be introduced to China, not capitalism.

Why does Western society seem to believe democracy is the answer to everything? I'm not claiming to be any more educated or generally better than the electorate but it is quite easy to notice the majority of the population does not have the capacity to vote. Enlightened absolutism is the answer.

[Pope Joan]

They should savor the sweet sent of the democracy we have engendered in Libya, and Egypt.

Or not.

[Daburuetchi]

lolololo. First off Over 80 percent of the Soviet adult population (148.5 million people) took part in the referendum, and of them 76.4 percent voted yes to continue the Soviet Union. The USSR fell because Gorbachev was traitor and becuase market socilaism destroyed the economy over a period of three and a half decades.

Second of all a poll conducted in 2013 the majority of people in Hong Kong did not support occupy central. An article by the Huntington post notes: "In a poll conducted at the end of 2013, more than 70 percent of respondents with a family income of less than $10,000 opposed the Occupy movement, as did more than 80 percent of respondents over 70 years old. Support for the movement was strongest among students and those making more than $100,000. Overall, that poll showed a majority of respondents opposing Occupy Central and fearing that it would lead to violence and economic loss. But the poll also revealed broad support for universal suffrage."
The Hong Kong Protest is nothing more than a smoke screen by which the US can mess with yet another country.

[Kahel]

Asia Spring, anyone?

Good old market capitalism, changing the world one former communist state at a time. Whether its changing the world for the better or not is yet to be seen.

As for Hong Kong, there's too much western coverage of this issue to let China do everything it wants. I think the students will prevail, one way or another, or we get a compromise.

1) Asian Spring isn't happening. There might be protests here and there but I highly doubt there will be any significant change.
2) If you change good old market capitalism to Rhine Capitalism or Social-Market economy I'd agree with you.
3) The protests are (sadly) going to die-out eventually because the protesters will think of their struggle as an hopeless, pointless one.

1) Wasn't saying there was one, I was asking who's up for one? I am.
2) Probably, although I prefer American/Canadian style capitalism but hey. As long as everyone can get what they want and need.
3) I don't know... It really depends. I'm not familiar enough with the situation.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Once China becomes a capitalist democracy those North Korean communists will have to do the same.

Hate to break it to you Teddy, but Best Korea doesn't even claim to be communist.

[Meowfoundland]

It's very unlikely that Hong Kong will become democratic in the next few years, let alone the rest of China. These protests will lead absolutely nowhere.

[Sebastianbourg]

Well what can you expect from the Communists? The sooner Communism is swept into the ash heap of History, and China fully embraces Democracy and Capitalism the better.

China isn't communist; it simply has an authoritarian government with a significant participation and importance in the economy.

[Sebastianbourg]

Once China becomes a capitalist democracy those North Korean communists will have to do the same.

Hate to break it to you Teddy, but Best Korea doesn't even claim to be communist.

Juche for life!

[FutureAmerica]

China has a Stalinist regime that has embraced foreign capital and market economics, but with absolute political control. Are they Iron Fist consumerists or Nationalist Socialists? They are operating no differently than Nazi Germany in 1933. Prepare for WWIII.

[Sebastianbourg]

China has a Stalinist regime that has embraced foreign capital and market economics, but with absolute political control. Are they Iron Fist consumerists or Nationalist Socialists? They are operating no differently than Nazi Germany in 1933. Prepare for WWIII.

The Uyghurs are oppressed but only when they start calling for independence; it's nowhere near Nazi Germany where Jews were either deprived of their citizenship or issued special one-way exit passports.

[FutureAmerica]

China has a Stalinist regime that has embraced foreign capital and market economics, but with absolute political control. Are they Iron Fist consumerists or Nationalist Socialists? They are operating no differently than Nazi Germany in 1933. Prepare for WWIII.

The Uyghurs are oppressed but only when they start calling for independence; it's nowhere near Nazi Germany where Jews were either deprived of their citizenship or issued special one-way exit passports.

What about Tibetans???