Why do people believe in god? (And other things)

[The Sons of Adam]

Also, have you seen the way atheists blame a nonexistent God for their first-world problems?

[Mavorpen]

Also, have you seen the way atheists blame a nonexistent God for their first-world problems?

Yes. That's called sarcasm.

[The Sons of Adam]

Answer me this. If atheists were truly linked to the belief in evolution, how would they be pro-abortion/gay?

Because they aren't related.

Atheists seem more like hard-core leftists screaming FUCK (christian/islamic/maybe jewish) RELIGION! The last time I ever had an argument with an atheist, they only used these arguments.

Your problem is that you've been arguing with imaginary people.

Like you? Or am I imaginary?

[Mavorpen]

Like you? Or am I imaginary?

Yes.

[Sociobiology]

atheists are on average better behaved than theists.
Atheists make up a smaller percentage of the prison population than the general population, even though they experience lower levels of trust by the population.

also what does atheism have to do with layman's arguments?

Have you seen the internet? http://www.pravmir.com/top-10-common-at ... ents-fail/

yes i have, there are laymans arguments everywhere from atheists and theists alike.
a good example is the site you link that makes a one sided strawman argument.

Answer me this. If atheists were truly linked to the belief in evolution,

its not and I never claimed it was.

Atheists seem more like hard-core leftists screaming FUCK (christian/islamic/maybe jewish) RELIGION! The last time I ever had an argument with an atheist, they only used these arguments.

so you haven't actually been reading this thread?

here is one from this thread, off the top of my head

no falsifiable definition for god exists that has any empirical evidence supporting it.

and thats all you really need to say about the subject to be an atheist.

also I f you really want to compare horror stories I have had theists threaten my life and key my car for "corrupting children by teaching them about evolution."

[The Sons of Adam]

Also, have you seen the way atheists blame a nonexistent God for their first-world problems?

Yes. That's called sarcasm.

Sarcasm? some seem very passionate about it...

[Mavorpen]

Yes. That's called sarcasm.

Sarcasm? some seem very passionate about it...

Which is the whole point of good sarcasm/satire. What's the point if naive people don't make themselves look by fools by believing they're serious?

[Mithea III]

Dunno, the idea of God is really stupid.

[The Sons of Adam]

Sarcasm? some seem very passionate about it...

Which is the whole point of good sarcasm/satire. What's the point if naive people don't make themselves look by fools by believing they're serious?

Why would one group of people insult themselves? It sounds like giving ammunition to the crazy religious people.

[Mavorpen]

Which is the whole point of good sarcasm/satire. What's the point if naive people don't make themselves look by fools by believing they're serious?

Why would one group of people insult themselves? It sounds like giving ammunition to the crazy religious people.

...The hell are you talking about?

[Immoren]

I wasn't talking about any ordinary egg.

"One egg's lower half transformed
And became the earth below,
And its upper half transmuted
And became the sky above;
From the yolk the sun was made,
Light of day to shine upon us;
From the white the moon was formed,
Light of night to gleam above us;
All the colored brighter bits
Rose to be the stars of heaven
And the darker crumbs changed into
Clouds and cloudlets in the sky."

Wait, is that a poem?

Excerpt from Kalevala, yes.

[The Sons of Adam]

Why would one group of people insult themselves? It sounds like giving ammunition to the crazy religious people.

...The hell are you talking about?

When I said, blaming God for problems--> you said sarcasm
I thought that kind of sarcasm seemed serious---> you said they try hard
I said it gave ammunition to religious peeps

[Sociobiology]

"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
...Stephen F Roberts

[Mavorpen]

...The hell are you talking about?

When I said, blaming God for problems--> you said sarcasm
I thought that kind of sarcasm seemed serious---> you said they try hard
I said it gave ammunition to religious peeps

...Again, I have no idea what you're talking about.

[The Sons of Adam]

When I said, blaming God for problems--> you said sarcasm
I thought that kind of sarcasm seemed serious---> you said they try hard
I said it gave ammunition to religious peeps

...Again, I have no idea what you're talking about.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 7519,d.cWc

[Mavorpen]

...Again, I have no idea what you're talking about.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 7519,d.cWc

Okay, so you've just given up and decided to link me to a random site. What an insightful contribution you've made.

[The Nexus of Man]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 7519,d.cWc

Okay, so you've just given up and decided to link me to a random site. What an insightful contribution you've made.

giving urls do not mean concedement of defeat

u srs right now? or are you just trying to end the debate?

[The Sons of Adam]

No, you don't understand what I'm talking about. I'm trying to convey the idea of some of the laymans arguments, but apparently they seem pretty reasonable to an atheist...

[Mavorpen]

No, you don't understand what I'm talking about. I'm trying to convey the idea of some of the laymans arguments, but apparently they seem pretty reasonable to an atheist...

What the hell does this have to do with what we were talking about? What the hell is with the massive goal post shift?

[Sociobiology]

No, you don't understand what I'm talking about. I'm trying to convey the idea of some of the laymans arguments, but apparently they seem pretty reasonable to an atheist...

why would you ask one atheists to defend the arguments of other unrelated atheists (or in this case anti-theists), I would not ask you to defend the actions of suicide bombers.

[Benuty]

Also, have you seen the way atheists blame a nonexistent God for their first-world problems?

Yes. That's called sarcasm.

No that is called Ken Ham.

[Camelza]

In my humble opinion, belief in god/s stems from a part-of-humanity's need for a superior moral guardian.
It's not bad, as long as it's not forced unto other peoples' faces.

[NERVUN]

While I don't agree with most points of the quoted post, education, after the end of classical times, has at first always been provided by the church, same with funding for or conducting scientific research.

because if you were not funded and supported by the church you were put to death, you don't get to take credit for something if you kill anyone else that tries to do it.

Oh? What scientists were killed by the church?

[NERVUN]

Because I'm a weak-willed, unintelligent, uneducated, small-minded individual who's terrified of death, and needs someone or something to metaphorically hold my hand for me as I examine life's big issues, obviously.

Or at least that's the characterisation of myself I've put together on the basis of at least some of the posts in this thread.

Didn't you know Arch? If you don't believe he TRUTH it's because you either haven't heard it or are an idiot.

The same self-righteous behavior that they condemn in some theists is the same that they themselves engage in.

[Lavan Tiri]

Not sure it's a failed attempt, since it clearly still has people accepting it as an answer and has done so for a very long time.

It's perhaps more accurate to say it's failing, since religion appears to be on the decline, but I don't have the figures to support that.

(Hard Atheist here by the way)

What I meant by failed is that it has failed to do any benefits to society the way science has

Religion led to the Crusades.

The Crusades led to contact with the Muslim world, and by extension the Eastern world.

This led, in time, to a little guy called Christopher Columbus landing in the Bahamas.

This led to the Colombian exchange, and colonization of the Americas.

This led to a bunch of other stuff, like, I dunno, nuclear power, the American Revolution, and the Emancipation Proclamation.

Ergo, religion caused America, which is a pretty good thing.