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Postby The Old Nouveau Riche » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:01 am

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:
The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:You forget that national socialism is experiencing a rebirth in Europe as the common masses begin to reachieve racial consciousness.

It's surprisingly easy to forget about things that aren't happening.

Then explain the rise of Jobbik in Hungary and Golden Dawn in Greece; of the British National Party in England and the Front National in France; the Swedish Democrats in that cultural Marxist hellhole.
Es gibt zehn Männer; neun werden in den Nebel des liberalen Denkens verloren. Es ist die heilige Pflicht der zehnten Mann seine neun Brüder wieder auf den Pfad des Nationalsozialismus zu bringen. Die Bewegung der Menschen wird nie sterben! National Socialism is not dead; it is resurgent. Like the phoenix, it will arise from the ashes and achieve greatness once again.

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Postby New Celisia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:02 am

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New Celisia wrote:I tend to base my beliefs on the continuation of Western Culture. Though I do identify as Caucasian/White, I believe in equality and all that fun jazz. I just don't think people should get shit on because they want to keep Western Culture alive. I mean everyone else is allowed to be proud of their heritage and culture, but if you're white and any one of these things, you'll likely be labelled as either a Neo-Nazi, Bigot, or Republican Radical. Regardless of your political beliefs or affiliations.

Probably has something to do with Western Culture being the descendant of racial diverse origins and owing much of its ideas to people without white skin.

This coming from someone who fucking loves Western Culture.


In a nation that brandishes it's freedom like a war spear, I think that I too should be able to enjoy, learn, and preserve the culture I most closely identify with. In that capacity I should also be left alone to do such a thing. I shouldn't be targeted by racially inflamed organizations or the more hypocritical liberal organizations that claim I'm a racist for doing so. If there can be such a thing as an all black college in the United States, then logically for equality to ensue there should also be college's that cater to other "races." Otherwise this all "Black" or all "White" business should be removed altogether. It's unfortunate that as a Heterosexual Caucasian male I have already been stereotyped and made out to be some kind of oppressor. Regardless of my actual political affiliations or moral ideals. Coming from someone who primarily identifies as a Centrist, it's annoying for me to see parties that identify more towards the left be so hypocritical and underhanded.
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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:03 am

Genetically speaking, indigenous people of the green colored part

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:03 am

I'm a pure blooded Aryan of the master race.

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Postby Uitbregen » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:03 am

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:
The Joseon Dynasty wrote:It's surprisingly easy to forget about things that aren't happening.

Then explain the rise of Jobbik in Hungary and Golden Dawn in Greece; of the British National Party in England and the Front National in France; the Swedish Democrats in that cultural Marxist hellhole.


You obviously don't know what's happening in Britain then, the BNP is pretty pathetic.
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:03 am

What idiot believes that National Socialism will rise again?
That is the stupidest thing I ever heard.
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Postby Hanchu » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:04 am

The Arctic Kingdom wrote:
The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:National Socialism will never die. It will continue to grow in strength until Germany regains its past Glory and all of Europe is engulfed in a popular revolution of the masses as they regain their racial consciousness. Heil Hitler!


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Postby The Old Nouveau Riche » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:04 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:Genetically speaking, indigenous people of the green colored part

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How are Arabs, Saudis, Turks, Mongols, and Siberian, among others, white? This map is nonsense.

EDIT: This is because the US lacks Arab and Mongol categories on its census.
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Es gibt zehn Männer; neun werden in den Nebel des liberalen Denkens verloren. Es ist die heilige Pflicht der zehnten Mann seine neun Brüder wieder auf den Pfad des Nationalsozialismus zu bringen. Die Bewegung der Menschen wird nie sterben! National Socialism is not dead; it is resurgent. Like the phoenix, it will arise from the ashes and achieve greatness once again.

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Postby -Ebola- » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:05 am

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:05 am

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:What idiot believes that National Socialism will rise again?
That is the stupidest thing I ever heard.


You obviously don't listen to talk radio.
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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:06 am

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:
The Joseon Dynasty wrote:It's surprisingly easy to forget about things that aren't happening.

Then explain the rise of Jobbik in Hungary and Golden Dawn in Greece; of the British National Party in England and the Front National in France; the Swedish Democrats in that cultural Marxist hellhole.

You want to use the British National Party as an example of popular support for "racial consciousness" in the UK? You do realise that they've been shat on in the polls since all the anti-immigration / anti-EU protest votes that were inflating their performance have fucked off to UKIP?
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:06 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Empire of Vlissingen wrote:What idiot believes that National Socialism will rise again?
That is the stupidest thing I ever heard.


You obviously don't listen to talk radio.

No I don't
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:06 am

New Celisia wrote:In a nation that brandishes it's freedom like a war spear, I think that I too should be able to enjoy, learn, and preserve the culture I most closely identify with. In that capacity I should also be left alone to do such a thing. I shouldn't be targeted by racially inflamed organizations or the more hypocritical liberal organizations that claim I'm a racist for doing so. If there can be such a thing as an all black college in the United States, then logically for equality to ensue there should also be college's that cater to other "races." Otherwise this all "Black" or all "White" business should be removed altogether. It's unfortunate that as a Heterosexual Caucasian male I have already been stereotyped and made out to be some kind of oppressor. Regardless of my actual political affiliations or moral ideals. Coming from someone who primarily identifies as a Centrist, it's annoying for me to see parties that identify more towards the left be so hypocritical and underhanded.

The thing of it is... people interested in 'white' heritage aren't generally interested in reclaiming lost family lines and cultures, as African Americans whose ancestors were stripped of their ability to meaningfully pass on family histories and native traditions.

You see, people who are white who are interested in their heritage generally hit up the country/countries of origin. Not least of which because there isn't really any white culture.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:07 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:Genetically speaking, indigenous people of the green colored part

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Genetically speaking, the concept of "race" as presented by your map is bullshit ;)
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Postby Memell » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:07 am

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote: This will be an important consideration for the future leaders of the future resurgent National Socialist state in Europe.



What???
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Postby New Celisia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:07 am

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Genetically speaking, indigenous people of the green colored part

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How are Arabs, Saudis, Turks, Mongols, and Siberian, among others, white? This map is nonsense.


Yes and the Aryans came from Middle East. So what are we discussing exactly?

In Sanskrit and related Indic languages, ārya means "one who does noble deeds; a noble one". Āryāvarta (Sanskrit: आर्यावर्त, "the abode of the āryas") is a common name for northern India in classical Sanskrit literature. Manusmṛti (2.22) gives the name to "the tract between the Himalaya and the Vindhya ranges, from the Eastern Sea to the Western Sea".[24] The title ārya was used with various modifications throughout the Indian Subcontinent. Kharavela, the Emperor of Kalinga of around 1 BCE, is referred to as an ārya in the Hathigumpha inscriptions of the Udayagiri and Khandagiri Caves in Bhubaneswar, Odisha. The Gurjara Pratihara rulers in the tenth century were titled "Maharajadhiraja of Āryāvarta".Various Indian religions, chiefly Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism, use the term ārya as an epithet of honour; a similar usage is found in the name of Arya Samaj.
In Ramayana and Mahabharata, ārya is used as an honorific for many characters including Hanuman


Unlike the several meanings connected with ārya- in Old Indic, the Old Iranian term has solely an ethnic meaning. That is in contrast to Indian usage, in which several secondary meanings evolved, the meaning of ar- as a self-identifier is preserved in Iranian usage, hence the words "Iran"/"Iranian" themselves. Iranian airya meant and means "Iranian", and Iranian anairya meant and means "non-Iranian". Arya may also be found as an ethnonym in Iranian languages, e.g., Alan/Persian Iran and Ossetian Ir/Iron
The name Iran, Iranian is itself equivalent to Aryan, where Iran means "land of the Aryans," and has been in use since Sassanid times


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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:08 am

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Genetically speaking, indigenous people of the green colored part

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How are Arabs, Saudis, Turks, Mongols, and Siberian, among others, white? This map is nonsense.

Well I do agree that the Mongols and Siberians should be considered Asian rather than White, but Arabs and Saudis (they are the same exact thing), along with the Turks have been genetically related to the "Caucasoid" race, which I consider as white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasoid_race

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:09 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:Well I do agree that the Mongols and Siberians should be considered Asian rather than White, but Arabs and Saudis (they are the same exact thing), along with the Turks have been genetically related to the "Caucasoid" race, which I consider as white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasoid_race

The fuck does it matter? Especially in the modern day, where mixed-race individuals are all the more common.
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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:12 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Well I do agree that the Mongols and Siberians should be considered Asian rather than White, but Arabs and Saudis (they are the same exact thing), along with the Turks have been genetically related to the "Caucasoid" race, which I consider as white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasoid_race

The fuck does it matter? Especially in the modern day, where mixed-race individuals are all the more common.

It doesn't, race mixing is perfectly fine and I do not object to it. I just believe that Arabs should be considered "White" due to genetic similarities.

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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:13 am

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:What ethnicities and groups of people do you consider to belong to the White race? This will be an important consideration for the future leaders of the future resurgent National Socialist state in Europe.

I consider the white race to be made up of members of lightskinned ethnic groups that originate from Europe. However, there are some exceptions: the Lapps are Siberian/Tungusic migrants: the Finns are the descendants Mongolic tribes and Siberian/Tungusic groups that had migrated westward into modern day Finland and mixed throughout a long period of cohabitation: the Magyars/Huns, as the name suggests, are the descendants of a cohort the Turanic Huns of Central Asia which had migrated west to the Pannonian Plain and were later separated from the rest of the Huns; the Bulgars are the descendants of Mongolian central asian tribes; the Albanian Shqiptars are a mix of Turkic Azeris and the Turks themselves; and the Georgians and Armenians experience deep racial admixture throughout the entire populations of their respective ethnicities. Of course, the Jews and Gypsies are not White either.

I also believe that a considerable fraction of Spaniards and Italians are not white, due to heavy Mohametan/Arab admixture in the case of the Spaniards and heavy African admixture in the case of the Italians.

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Postby New Celisia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:13 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
New Celisia wrote:In a nation that brandishes it's freedom like a war spear, I think that I too should be able to enjoy, learn, and preserve the culture I most closely identify with. In that capacity I should also be left alone to do such a thing. I shouldn't be targeted by racially inflamed organizations or the more hypocritical liberal organizations that claim I'm a racist for doing so. If there can be such a thing as an all black college in the United States, then logically for equality to ensue there should also be college's that cater to other "races." Otherwise this all "Black" or all "White" business should be removed altogether. It's unfortunate that as a Heterosexual Caucasian male I have already been stereotyped and made out to be some kind of oppressor. Regardless of my actual political affiliations or moral ideals. Coming from someone who primarily identifies as a Centrist, it's annoying for me to see parties that identify more towards the left be so hypocritical and underhanded.

The thing of it is... people interested in 'white' heritage aren't generally interested in reclaiming lost family lines and cultures, as African Americans whose ancestors were stripped of their ability to meaningfully pass on family histories and native traditions.

You see, people who are white who are interested in their heritage generally hit up the country/countries of origin. Not least of which because there isn't really any white culture.


Western Culture to me generally defines the cultures of Europe, and their American ancestors. Europe has a rather rich tapestry of culture. As I have family that hail from a multitude of European nations, it makes me interested in them all. ^.^ Regardless, I should be able to wave my Western Culture flag around just as much as a purple flier without fearing reprisal from hate groups. This inequality and racial tension is a two way street. If we favour one group too strongly, we're just going to end up sowing further division. Especially if there are exceptions to the rule because someone is Caucasian or of "White" ancestry. Just because it might not happen as often, doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and it does mean that these issues are just as important. Otherwise you're viewing the issue from a racially biased perspective, and in my opinion these individuals are just as hateful as their Neo-Nazi/Uber-Conservative compatriots.


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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:14 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:It doesn't, race mixing is perfectly fine and I do not object to it. I just believe that Arabs should be considered "White" due to genetic similarities.

What genetic similarities? There isn't a lot of shared phenotype there.

Although I suppose there isn't a lot of shared phenotype in most racial categories, so perhaps it's appropriate.
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Postby Vissegaard » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:16 am

If your skin tone is as miserable far cry from what is called "a tan" as mine is, you are definitely white.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:16 am

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The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:What are your thoughts on this matter?

I think the real question is, what is white trash, and I think that can be answered in one word; you!


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