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Who would you vote for?

Labour
342
20%
Conservatives
346
20%
Ukip
394
23%
Greens
246
14%
Liberal Democrats
149
9%
SNP
77
5%
Plaid Cymru
32
2%
Respect
35
2%
Other (please state)
79
5%
 
Total votes : 1700

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Dejanic
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Postby Dejanic » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:48 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Unlikely. Last time he came to Edinburgh, he got trapped in a pub. :P

Hitler got rejected from art school and arrested after a pub brawl.
Getting trapped in a pub sounds like perfect motivation.

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Salandriagado
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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:20 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
By way of an idea of how ridiculous his idea is: I live in a house shared with several others in a very dodgy region of Coventry, and my rent is a shade over £150/week.

Numbers?
How many, approx room size, bills included?

Sorry to pry, but even for private renting, £150 a week sounds like a lot for shared living.


It does include a few bills. There's four of us, vaguely large-ish rooms. It's not completely unreasonable.
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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:33 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Numbers?
How many, approx room size, bills included?

Sorry to pry, but even for private renting, £150 a week sounds like a lot for shared living.


It does include a few bills. There's four of us, vaguely large-ish rooms. It's not completely unreasonable.

Granted, Liverpool is a pretty cheap city to live in, but I could get a furnished, bills-inclusive studio apartment with a communal area for just over £100. It could go live in Halls again for between £20-60 (as a Residential Advisor, but still).
Last year I paid £80 for a very small room in a recently-renovated house, this year I pay £75 for a quite large room, but I have made the sacrifice of no internet included and no double glazing.
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Devvo Mate
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Postby Devvo Mate » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:58 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:Granted, Liverpool is a pretty cheap city to live in, but I could get a furnished, bills-inclusive studio apartment with a communal area for just over £100. It could go live in Halls again for between £20-60 (as a Residential Advisor, but still).
Last year I paid £80 for a very small room in a recently-renovated house, this year I pay £75 for a quite large room, but I have made the sacrifice of no internet included and no double glazing.


Yeah I'm paying 75 quid a week bills included in Liverpool. What a paradise this place is

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New Stephania
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Founded: Feb 07, 2015
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Postby New Stephania » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:11 am

Being on minimum wage or, god forbid, on benefits makes finding a place to live really difficult. My student years are long behind me and, despite living in one of the cheapest areas in the country, I have faced problems multiple times over the years trying to move in to a place that was actually affordable.

It's becoming increasingly common for people my age in my town to rent a shitty house together and live like a bunch of students just to keep costs down, single people in their late twenties and early-mid thirties are even resorting to moving back home with their parents. How anyone can say the minimum wage is a living wage is beyond me.

And if you do happen to be on benefits? Good luck to you. "No DSS".
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Tagmatium
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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:44 am

New Stephania wrote:Being on minimum wage or, god forbid, on benefits makes finding a place to live really difficult. My student years are long behind me and, despite living in one of the cheapest areas in the country, I have faced problems multiple times over the years trying to move in to a place that was actually affordable.

It's becoming increasingly common for people my age in my town to rent a shitty house together and live like a bunch of students just to keep costs down, single people in their late twenties and early-mid thirties are even resorting to moving back home with their parents. How anyone can say the minimum wage is a living wage is beyond me.

And if you do happen to be on benefits? Good luck to you. "No DSS".

I'm a single person in his late twenties, and I currently share with two others roughly my age.

We all earn roughly the same (well, I earn the lowest at £17,500-odd) and there's no way in hell that I could even dream of buying a house any time soon.

Rent isn't exactly cheap, either, at £380 a month, excluding Council tax and bills. But it is actually a nice house in a quite neighbourhood, which isn't too bad.

In Reading, I might add.
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State Secret
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Founded: Mar 30, 2015
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Postby State Secret » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:50 am

Unfortunately I am in the wrong constituancy.

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Imperializt Russia
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Founded: Jun 03, 2011
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:51 am

Tagmatium wrote:
New Stephania wrote:Being on minimum wage or, god forbid, on benefits makes finding a place to live really difficult. My student years are long behind me and, despite living in one of the cheapest areas in the country, I have faced problems multiple times over the years trying to move in to a place that was actually affordable.

It's becoming increasingly common for people my age in my town to rent a shitty house together and live like a bunch of students just to keep costs down, single people in their late twenties and early-mid thirties are even resorting to moving back home with their parents. How anyone can say the minimum wage is a living wage is beyond me.

And if you do happen to be on benefits? Good luck to you. "No DSS".

I'm a single person in his late twenties, and I currently share with two others roughly my age.

We all earn roughly the same (well, I earn the lowest at £17,500-odd) and there's no way in hell that I could even dream of buying a house any time soon.

Rent isn't exactly cheap, either, at £380 a month, excluding Council tax and bills. But it is actually a nice house in a quite neighbourhood, which isn't too bad.

In Reading, I might add.

£380/pm/pp isn't too bad in all honestly.
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British Home Counties
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Founded: Mar 18, 2015
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Postby British Home Counties » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:57 am

Tagmatium wrote:nice house in a neighbourhood


Tagmatium wrote:Reading


:O
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Over 1k for 3 bedrooms is quite a lot (assuming you have your own). But I guess it's the location.
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New Stephania wrote: How anyone can say the minimum wage is a living wage is beyond me.



No one said that the minimum wage is the living wage. Not everyone is exactly worth a living wage for some jobs according to most businesses and the price level, though. Is it fair? No. Is it fixable? Not really. Britain has quite a low productivity in comparison to other WW nations.
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:04 am

British Home Counties wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:nice house in a neighbourhood


Tagmatium wrote:Reading


:O
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Over 1k for 3 bedrooms is quite a lot (assuming you have your own). But I guess it's the location.

Both of my rents in Liverpool have been around this price, though both included bills, in not-brilliant areas of Liverpool.
Though that said, I think only my current rent is actually a student let. Honestly not sure about the previous one.

My previous let was £346.67pcm for a five-bed house.
My current let is £325pcm for a four-bed house.
In my previous let I got one of the two single-bed small attic rooms, this year I have a large double-bed room.
This year I pay the most as I have the largest room, in my previous let all five rooms charged the same. Which was really unfair, since my room was like a third the size of the largest. Especially since they changed the website prices before we went to sign for the house (from £75 for small rooms, £85 for large) then claimed it had "always" been £80.
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Napkiraly
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Founded: Aug 02, 2011
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:40 am

£860 per month for a small bachelor flat in Central London. Has only a kitchenette and a put away bed.

At least the bathroom is of a good size.

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Grave_n_idle
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:47 am

Devvo Mate wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Granted, Liverpool is a pretty cheap city to live in, but I could get a furnished, bills-inclusive studio apartment with a communal area for just over £100. It could go live in Halls again for between £20-60 (as a Residential Advisor, but still).
Last year I paid £80 for a very small room in a recently-renovated house, this year I pay £75 for a quite large room, but I have made the sacrifice of no internet included and no double glazing.


Yeah I'm paying 75 quid a week bills included in Liverpool. What a paradise this place is


On the downside, of course, it's in Liverpool.
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DesAnges
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby DesAnges » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:48 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Devvo Mate wrote:
Yeah I'm paying 75 quid a week bills included in Liverpool. What a paradise this place is


On the downside, of course, it's in Liverpool.

Liverpool's fine provided you don't get to Norris Green or Croxteth, really.
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:51 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Devvo Mate wrote:
Yeah I'm paying 75 quid a week bills included in Liverpool. What a paradise this place is


On the downside, of course, it's in Liverpool.

Liverpool's lovely. I can even say this having lived in two of its pretty meh areas.
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Michaels Constant
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Founded: Mar 30, 2015
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Postby Michaels Constant » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:53 am

Napkiraly wrote:£860 per month for a small bachelor flat in Central London. Has only a kitchenette and a put away bed.

At least the bathroom is of a good size.


And I thought Edinburgh was bad at £1000 per month for a reasonable two bed place.

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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:55 am

Michaels Constant wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:£860 per month for a small bachelor flat in Central London. Has only a kitchenette and a put away bed.

At least the bathroom is of a good size.


And I thought Edinburgh was bad at £1000 per month for a reasonable two bed place.

Edinburgh's bad, but it's not London.
London's just weird.
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Tagmatium
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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:56 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:I'm a single person in his late twenties, and I currently share with two others roughly my age.

We all earn roughly the same (well, I earn the lowest at £17,500-odd) and there's no way in hell that I could even dream of buying a house any time soon.

Rent isn't exactly cheap, either, at £380 a month, excluding Council tax and bills. But it is actually a nice house in a quite neighbourhood, which isn't too bad.

In Reading, I might add.

£380/pm/pp isn't too bad in all honestly.

No, it isn't.

But I suppose this comes under the "I wish things were cheaper!" heading.
British Home Counties wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:nice house in a neighbourhood


Tagmatium wrote:Reading

:O

You mock, but I've lived here for nine years now.

It is, in all honesty, not a bad place to live.

The main thing it suffers from is being too close to London, which means that things tend to pass it by.
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Michaels Constant
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Postby Michaels Constant » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:56 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Michaels Constant wrote:
And I thought Edinburgh was bad at £1000 per month for a reasonable two bed place.

Edinburgh's bad, but it's not London.
London's just weird.


The rental market here is crazy. I bought a place to let out and a place that used to be £995 per month can now go for £1400 a month. Not that i'm going to complain too much.

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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:35 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Michaels Constant wrote:
And I thought Edinburgh was bad at £1000 per month for a reasonable two bed place.

Edinburgh's bad, but it's not London.
London's just weird.

London is mental.

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DesAnges
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Postby DesAnges » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:36 am

Tagmatium wrote:
British Home Counties wrote:

:O

You mock, but I've lived here for nine years now.

It is, in all honesty, not a bad place to live.

The main thing it suffers from is being too close to London, which means that things tend to pass it by.

That's just the universal concept of Reading, though. If it were situated anywhere else in the country the same things would happen.
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Angleter
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Postby Angleter » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:09 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Alyakia wrote:

What are borrowing to spend on if they've allegedly made cuts to public spending?


The remaining public spending. You know that.
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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:16 pm

Angleter wrote:
Conscentia wrote:What are borrowing to spend on if they've allegedly made cuts to public spending?

The remaining public spending. You know that.

If the remaining public spending were lower, you expect the deficit and borrowing to decrease... unless tax revenues also decreased.
So either public spending has actually increased (so the "remaining" spending is more spending then was there in the first place), or taxes have decreased significantly.
Why has spending increased?
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Lunas Legion
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:18 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Angleter wrote:The remaining public spending. You know that.

If the remaining public spending were lower, you expect the deficit and borrowing to decrease... unless tax revenues also decreased.
So either public spending has actually increased (so the "remaining" spending is more spending then was there in the first place), or taxes have decreased significantly.
Why has spending increased?


So Osborne's been cutting le taxes and borrowing more to make up the deficit.
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