British 2015 general election poll

[Kelinfort]

You haven't seen nothing yet.

What do you mean?

If UKIP gets a large portion of the seats and apathy grows, you're going to see bullshit on levels not seen since the 2010 midterms here.

Of course, that's unlikely, but it's still worrying.

[Geilinor]

You haven't seen nothing yet.

What do you mean?

You have more than two viable options. A vote for UKIP or the Lib Dems isn't completely worthless, at least it means something and there are constituencies those parties will carry.

[Geilinor]

What do you mean?

If UKIP gets a large portion of the seats and apathy grow, you're going to see bullshit on levels not seen since the 2010 midterms here.

UKIP - the British Tea Party.

[Beta Test]

Honestly at this point I think UKIP is the better option.

I always thought you were a centrist with fairly liberal positions...

I am, but I find myself heavily dissatisfied with the Liberal Democrats, the party I'd usually support.

[Marcurix]

The UKIP has at best populists with bad ideas, so i certainly wont be voting for them in the coming election.

[Empire of Vlissingen]

The UKIP has at best populists with bad ideas, so i certainly wont be voting for them in the coming election.

This is how the main stream always talks about parties like UKIP that they are populisit and/or racist without any arguments.

[Marcurix]

The UKIP has at best populists with bad ideas, so i certainly wont be voting for them in the coming election.

This is how the main stream always talks about parties like UKIP that they are populisit and/or racist without any arguments.

No arguments huh?

Wants to leave the EU, but keep the free trade.
UKIP proposes "tens of billions" of cuts to taxation, along with a further £77 billion of cuts to the public sector in order to reduce the deficit.
Supports abolishing the Department of Energy and Climate Change
Wants to initiate an unspecified drive to remove illegal immigrants
Opposes legalization allowing same-sex marriages, Farage himself not ruling out overturning the law if elected.
Currently the UKIP are sceptical of man-made climate change and oppose the creation of wind farms and investment in other renewable energy sources.

So, yes. Populist, unspecified policies in key areas, and generally undesirable ones in others.

[The UK in Exile]

The UKIP has at best populists with bad ideas, so i certainly wont be voting for them in the coming election.

This is how the main stream always talks about parties like UKIP that they are populist and/or racist without any arguments.

well they are populist......

[Dejanic]

The UKIP has at best populists with bad ideas, so i certainly wont be voting for them in the coming election.

This is how the main stream always talks about parties like UKIP that they are populisit and/or racist without any arguments.

UKIP are extremely populist, they're trying to appeal to social conservatives/traditionalists, libertarians, and left leaning workers from the north at the same time! The party has no set ideology at this point excluding it's irrational fear of all things European.

[Arglorand]

The UKIP has at best populists with bad ideas, so i certainly wont be voting for them in the coming election.

This is how the main stream always talks about parties like UKIP that they are populisit and/or racist without any arguments.

It's easy to imagine that there are no arguments when you close your ears and go "LALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU"

[Southern Hampshire]

After my MPs and adjacent MPs idiotic comments (the only two Labour MPs south of London) against his main supporters (Polish immigrants) they will probably not get elected again (Providing they understand English..?)

Looks like it's going to be a 2008 Liberal Democrat / Conservatives battleground again.

[Mollary]

I'm aware of that. But, polls can change between now and May.

Yes, they will, in the Tories' favour.

Think about it, what are Labour's actual policies? The leadership wants a mansion tax, but many of their donors and MPs are against it, so it wouldn't get through Parliament. They want to increase NHS spending by £2.5 billion, but that is nowhere near the £8 billion that is required, so they may as well have pledged a middle finger. They want to eliminate the deficit by 2020, but so far they have voted against every lot of spending cuts made by the Cameron government. What else?

Could a Labour supporter kindly explain to me why anyone should vote Labour other than to stop the big old mean Tories getting into power again?

No, basically I'm campaigning for Labour because I'm Keynesian and they're pledging to make less cuts and, therefore, from my point of view, will be inflicting less damage. The energy price freeze might pass, which would be good, and maybe even the trains too, but otherwise there is no reason to vote Labour other than for the fact that they are the lesser of many evils that can actually get elected if you are centre-left. Well, that and all that is listed below, although I still feel it isn't quite enough.

[The UK in Exile]

I'm aware of that. But, polls can change between now and May.

Yes, they will, in the Tories' favour.

Think about it, what are Labour's actual policies? The leadership wants a mansion tax, but many of their donors and MPs are against it, so it wouldn't get through Parliament. They want to increase NHS spending by £2.5 billion, but that is nowhere near the £8 billion that is required, so they may as well have pledged a middle finger. They want to eliminate the deficit by 2020, but so far they have voted against every lot of spending cuts made by the Cameron government. What else?

Could a Labour supporter kindly explain to me why anyone should vote Labour other than to stop the big old mean Tories getting into power again?

"what are labour's policies? I can name them, but they don't count. for some reason. "

did you try googling it?

http://press.labour.org.uk/post/8435229 ... with-rents
- 200,000 more homes a year
- legislate to make three year tenancies the standard in the British private rented sector

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26506522
- 18 to 24-year-olds out of work for a year will be offered a taxpayer-funded job for six months - with those who refuse losing benefits.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29367645
- increase in the minimum wage from £6.50-an-hour to £8-an-hour by 2020.
- Zero hours contracts to be banned.
- Parents of primary school children would be guaranteed childcare from 8am to 6pm.
- The amount of free childcare for three and four year olds would be increased from 15 to 25 hours a week.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

Yes, which is why they shouldn't be taxed.

Somalia has no taxes.

Don't be ridiculous.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

At the end of the day, commerce and markets are the best means of bringing people out of poverty.

Have you ever read An Inspector Calls?

Yes, unfortunately. It's a ridiculous caricature of ebul rich people.

But if you question my claim that capitalism brings people out of poverty, there is a wealth of evidence to support this. Watch this video. It's clearly biased, but well-sourced.

[Ostroeuropa]

Greens or Plaid, whoever has a better showing in my area.
It's looking like it could be a 3 way between Lab, Plaid and Green, with no clear front of the pack.

If forced to bite the bullet and choose, I'll vote green.

[Arglorand]

Greens or Plaid, whoever has a better showing in my area.
It's looking like it could be a 3 way between Lab, Plaid and Green, with no clear front of the pack.

If forced to bite the bullet and choose, I'll vote green.

I never thought I'd see the day when you would EVEN consider voting for Plaid.

[Ostroeuropa]

Greens or Plaid, whoever has a better showing in my area.
It's looking like it could be a 3 way between Lab, Plaid and Green, with no clear front of the pack.

If forced to bite the bullet and choose, I'll vote green.

I never thought I'd see the day when you would EVEN consider voting for Plaid.

I'll be firmly against independence. As will most of their voters. More devolution is ok though.
I'm only considering it because Labour needs a kick up the backside. My heart is with the greens, but Plaid can be trusted to push left too.

I'm hoping we end up with a coalition government of Lab, Green, SNP, and Plaid.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

This is Lerodan. He thinks they shouldn't exist to begin with.

I'm guessing he'd privatise everything? Including the military, police, judiciary system, etc?

I am not an anarcho-capitalist. Although I believe that a private police force would be held to public account much better than a nationalised one.

[Valaran]

I'm guessing he'd privatise everything? Including the military, police, judiciary system, etc?

I am not an anarcho-capitalist. Although I believe that a private police force would be held to public account much better than a nationalised one.

The parable of G4s comes to mind there. Neither way is perfect, and the current one needs reform, but the police-force we have now is usually quite good.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

As somebody who'll be voting in the upcoming election, I'm sad to say that we'll be getting a pretty raw deal. Lib Dems are ideologically inconsistent cowards, the Labour Party wants to turn Britain into Greece and the Greens are, needless to say, insane. The two less undesirable choices are the Conservatives and UKIP, although both are pretty bad. Cameron has done some good, but much like the US Congress, he has not cut spending nearly as much as he should be doing, as he's already allowed the debt to increase by £600 billion. He also has no balls, refusing to seriously reform the NHS, railways and energy, and has decided to keep the disastrous minimum wage and Bank of England corporatisation that Blair introduced. He also has a frustratingly mixed record on civil liberties.

UKIP is an extremely disappointing party, deciding to go the way of an ultra-conservative protectionist party that appeals to Britain's xenophobes rather than the growing libertarian-leaning youth. Being an immigrant to Britain, I'm appalled by its immigration policies, and I'm disappointed by their mediocre tax proposals. However, I'll be swallowing my pride and voting for them because they at least want some beneficial reforms to the UK, as opposed to the other parties. Repeal of the gun ban, withdrawal from the EU, deregulation and deeper spending cuts are all good things in my mind.

let me guess. when you say reform the NHS, railways and energy you mean you want him to privatize them harder, don't you?

"Harder"? None of them are privatised. NHS is state-owned and uses some private services to cut costs, and the other two have been corporatised with perverse incentives built into their infrastructures to encourage monopoly organisation and pricing structures subservient to the government. If prices are to come down and competition is to be reintroduced, substantial deregulation of these sectors must occur.

[Arglorand]

let me guess. when you say reform the NHS, railways and energy you mean you want him to privatize them harder, don't you?

"Harder"? None of them are privatised. NHS is state-owned and uses some private services to cut costs, and the other two have been corporatised with perverse incentives built into their infrastructures to encourage monopoly organisation and pricing structures subservient to the government. If prices are to come down and competition is to be reintroduced, substantial deregulation of these sectors must occur.

Translation provided for Alyakia: "Yeah."

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

So I did the I Side With quiz for the UK parties and here's what I got.

Liberal Democrats 66%
Labour 61%
Conservatives 58%
Green 54%
British Nationals 33%
Scottish Nationals 27%
UK Independence 20%
Plaid Cymru 12%

I'd say this is fairly accurate since I feel that if I was a British citizen I would vote for the Lib Dems although I'm pretty surprised on how I got 33% for the BNP seeing as I think they are god awful. Many it has to do with my support for an English Devolved Legislature but maybe not.

What are your economic views? The BNP are fairly leftist on economics, and if the general attitudes of NS are anything to go by, the 33% will be from that.

Fairly leftist? Their views on fiscal policy are further left than Old Labour.

[Martean]

let me guess. when you say reform the NHS, railways and energy you mean you want him to privatize them harder, don't you?

"Harder"? None of them are privatised. NHS is state-owned and uses some private services to cut costs, and the other two have been corporatised with perverse incentives built into their infrastructures to encourage monopoly organisation and pricing structures subservient to the government. If prices are to come down and competition is to be reintroduced, substantial deregulation of these sectors must occur.

This happened when spain privatized the energetic sector and competition started

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

"Harder"? None of them are privatised. NHS is state-owned and uses some private services to cut costs, and the other two have been corporatised with perverse incentives built into their infrastructures to encourage monopoly organisation and pricing structures subservient to the government. If prices are to come down and competition is to be reintroduced, substantial deregulation of these sectors must occur.

This happened when spain privatized the energetic sector and competition started

Is this the price of electricity? And could you provide a source for that?