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Who would you vote for?

Labour
342
20%
Conservatives
346
20%
Ukip
394
23%
Greens
246
14%
Liberal Democrats
149
9%
SNP
77
5%
Plaid Cymru
32
2%
Respect
35
2%
Other (please state)
79
5%
 
Total votes : 1700

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Greater vakolicci haven
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue May 05, 2015 11:31 am

Hydesland wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Is George Galloway likely to lose his seat?


God I hope so.

I hope he doesn't. He introduced an early day motion for me once to attempt to get companies to offer audio description on streamed movies.
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Postby Vyvland » Tue May 05, 2015 11:34 am

Alyakia wrote:no gordon brown letter go away you don't live in this city

David Cameron recently sent a letter to a local constituency in which he spelt the constituency's name wrong - three times
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue May 05, 2015 11:36 am

Vyvland wrote:
Alyakia wrote:no gordon brown letter go away you don't live in this city

David Cameron recently sent a letter to a local constituency in which he spelt the constituency's name wrong - three times

Hehe, numpty.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue May 05, 2015 11:37 am

Alyakia wrote:no gordon brown letter go away you don't live in this city

Brown'd be better off writing letters to his own constituents in Kirkcaldy and hoping for the best
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Postby DesAnges » Tue May 05, 2015 11:39 am

Arglorand wrote:
Alyakia wrote:no gordon brown letter go away you don't live in this city

Brown'd be better off writing letters to his own constituents in Kirkcaldy and hoping for the best

He's not standing this time out.
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Monkeykind
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Postby Monkeykind » Tue May 05, 2015 11:40 am

Why can I not find out if any of my constituents are religious? :mad:

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Postby DesAnges » Tue May 05, 2015 11:42 am

Monkeykind wrote:Why can I not find out if any of my constituents are religious? :mad:

Constituents or candidates? Probably because it's not that big a selling point and therefore not particularly anyone's business.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Tue May 05, 2015 11:44 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The Matthew Islands wrote:Apoligies if anyone has already posted this,

Could this be Britain's most least surprising revelation regarding the Tories well documented hatred of the poor.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... d-disabled

Civil servants often come up with policy suggestions that are nonsensical. Like the labour civil servant who came up with the idea of releasing bad stats on the day of 9/11.


The difference is releasing stats hurts no-one and benefit cuts hurt the sick, poor, young and disabled.
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Postby Monkeykind » Tue May 05, 2015 11:50 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Civil servants often come up with policy suggestions that are nonsensical. Like the labour civil servant who came up with the idea of releasing bad stats on the day of 9/11.


The difference is releasing stats hurts no-one and benefit cuts hurt the sick, poor, young and disabled.

If it's a civil servant, they won't have the capabilities to enact the welfare cut.

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Postby Olivaero » Tue May 05, 2015 11:51 am

The Matthew Islands wrote:Apoligies if anyone has already posted this,

Could this be Britain's most least surprising revelation regarding the Tories well documented hatred of the poor.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... d-disabled

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Postby Miletos » Tue May 05, 2015 11:54 am

Olivaero wrote:
The Matthew Islands wrote:Apoligies if anyone has already posted this,

Could this be Britain's most least surprising revelation regarding the Tories well documented hatred of the poor.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... d-disabled

"Have we ever just tried killing all the poor?"


Here's some three-year-old satire from NewsThump that is still on-target even now:
http://newsthump.com/2012/12/31/poor-pe ... can-smith/
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Greater vakolicci haven
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue May 05, 2015 11:58 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Civil servants often come up with policy suggestions that are nonsensical. Like the labour civil servant who came up with the idea of releasing bad stats on the day of 9/11.


The difference is releasing stats hurts no-one and benefit cuts hurt the sick, poor, young and disabled.

The point is it wasn't drawn up by the conservatives. Civil servants aren't hired by the government, for the most part on political terms. A lot will be remaining from the previous government.
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Postby Monkeykind » Tue May 05, 2015 12:00 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
The difference is releasing stats hurts no-one and benefit cuts hurt the sick, poor, young and disabled.

The point is it wasn't drawn up by the conservatives. Civil servants aren't hired by the government, for the most part on political terms. A lot will be remaining from the previous government.

Exactly, if it's not from the government then it won't be enacted.

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Postby Atlanticatia » Tue May 05, 2015 12:05 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:Apoligies if anyone has already posted this,

Could this be Britain's most least surprising revelation regarding the Tories well documented hatred of the poor.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... d-disabled


You know, I think one of the most evil things a government can do is to cut benefits for the most vulnerable. A £12bn tax rise on the wealthy is much more socially and economically beneficial (and they can afford it) than taking money away from those who have the least. Or, at the very least, remove social benefits from middle-income and upper-middle income earners, if you're not going to tax the rich. (Although, taxing the rich is 100% preferable.) It's just so evil to take away from those who have the least.
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Postby Monkeykind » Tue May 05, 2015 12:12 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Monkeykind wrote:Why can I not find out if any of my constituents are religious? :mad:

Constituents or candidates? Probably because it's not that big a selling point and therefore not particularly anyone's business.

Whoops, yeah, candidates. Don't know why I put constituents.

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Postby DesAnges » Tue May 05, 2015 12:14 pm

Monkeykind wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Constituents or candidates? Probably because it's not that big a selling point and therefore not particularly anyone's business.

Whoops, yeah, candidates. Don't know why I put constituents.

You're secretly trying to chase last minute votes from the plebs? :D
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Postby Monkeykind » Tue May 05, 2015 12:18 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Monkeykind wrote:Whoops, yeah, candidates. Don't know why I put constituents.

You're secretly trying to chase last minute votes from the plebs? :D

My secret plan foiled. Nuts!

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Postby The Archregimancy » Tue May 05, 2015 12:20 pm

Alyakia wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Don't worry, I'm keeping an eye on it - and I'll be up late on the 7th as well.

But a reminder here to everyone for the 7th and 8th....

NO GLOATING.

Celebrating your own party's success (which, let's face it, likely means SNP supporters) is absolutely fine. Writing something along the lines of 'this amazing unprecedented victory marks a new dawn for Scotland' is absolutely fine. Writing something along the lines of 'HA HA - fuck you you fucking English Tory losers' will find the moderation team coming down on you like the proverbial tonne of bricks. Likewise gloating over individual MPs losing their seats; even George Galloway.

I apologise to SNP voters if it looks like I'm singling you out with the above. I don't intend to - it's just simple recognition that you're likely the only people who'll have much to celebrate on the 8th. Everyone else will probably be nursing a massive psephological hangover.


we're still allowed to go "i'm really happy nick clegg lost his seat because this might shake up the lib dems politically and discourage them from doing anything like that ever again also he's shit" right? assuming he does. which unfortunately some people in the heat of the moment might shorten down to "YES!". it's not like nick clegg is posting here. (or is he...?)


I think "i'm really happy nick clegg lost his seat because this might shake up the lib dems politically and discourage them from doing anything like that ever again" would be entirely acceptable. That involves a reasoned argument over why

I would caution people against describing any of the party leaders as "shit" if that party does badly or if said leader loses his/her seat.



In any case, I'm going to lock this thread down and start a new UK Election Megathread. We're getting close to 500 pages, and it's not as if the posting rate will decrease over the next three to four days. Best if I do it now, I think, rather than wait until the last moment. Locking now will offer better continuity of argument in the final run-up to the election and the aftermath.


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