Canadian parliament on lockdown.

[Phoenixfox]

that would mean moderate christians would be against homosexuality.

...yes, most of us are.

And my logic in the previous post wasn't that moderate muslims are violent. I was just saying it's not worth it to keep allowing moderate muslims to come here because some of them are bound to actually be extremists. It's just not worth it.

http://www.masjidtoronto.com/2014/10/muslim-association-ofcanada-condemns-violence-in-ottawa-and-montreal/

These little public apologies mean little. If they really wanted to stop the extreme members of their religion, they could do a LOT more. The fact is, they don't really want to. We saw their true feelings when they celebrated in huge crowds in the streets after the Twin Towers fell.

[Geilinor]

that would mean moderate christians would be against homosexuality.

...yes, most of us are.

Not in Canada, how do you think they legalized same-sex marriage?

[Napkiraly]

that would mean moderate christians would be against homosexuality.

...yes, most of us are.

And my logic in the previous post wasn't that moderate muslims are violent. I was just saying it's not worth it to keep allowing moderate muslims to come here because some of them are bound to actually be extremists. It's just not worth it.

http://www.masjidtoronto.com/2014/10/muslim-association-ofcanada-condemns-violence-in-ottawa-and-montreal/

These little public apologies mean little. If they really wanted to stop the extreme members of their religion, they could do a LOT more. The fact is, they don't really want to. We saw their true feelings when they celebrated in huge crowds in the streets after the Twin Towers fell.

By that logic we should also prevent Christians from immigrating or even spreading their religion. Why? Because some might be extremists.

Apologise? They aren't apologising, they're condemning a brutal act. They weren't the ones who did it so they have no need to apologise for it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_September_11_attacks#Islamic_worldMhm one case in the whole world. What's that I see there? Iranians observing a moment of silence? Turkey flying flags at half mast? Blood drives?

Le gasp! It cannot of beings!

[Geilinor]

I understand that not all moslems are evil.

But what % of a group of people have to hate you for them to be blacklisted.

If 5% of Muslims want to attack non-Muslims and force Sharia on them, should we tolerate them because it's unfair to 95% of them? What if 40% want you dead? Do you still say since the majority aren't trying to kill you, we need to put up with them? Or are you one of those who goes all the way, and even if 99% of them want you dead, we still accommodate them because the one guy shouldn't be discriminated against?

Be realistic - the good and bad Muslims don't go around wearing white hats and black hats - you get all of them and as a group they are hundreds of time more likely to commit acts of violence in the name of religion than any other group.

You blacklist only the individuals who cause trouble.

[Napkiraly]

I understand that not all moslems are evil.

But what % of a group of people have to hate you for them to be blacklisted.

If 5% of Muslims want to attack non-Muslims and force Sharia on them, should we tolerate them because it's unfair to 95% of them? What if 40% want you dead? Do you still say since the majority aren't trying to kill you, we need to put up with them? Or are you one of those who goes all the way, and even if 99% of them want you dead, we still accommodate them because the one guy shouldn't be discriminated against?

Be realistic - the good and bad Muslims don't go around wearing white hats and black hats - you get all of them and as a group they are hundreds of time more likely to commit acts of violence in the name of religion than any other group.

You blacklist only the individuals who cause trouble.

But you see all Muslims may be secretly hiding Muslamic Ray Guns.

[Fanosolia]

that would mean moderate christians would be against homosexuality.

...yes, most of us are.

And my logic in the previous post wasn't that moderate muslims are violent. I was just saying it's not worth it to keep allowing moderate muslims to come here because some of them are bound to actually be extremists. It's just not worth it.

I mean like how WBC handles it.

Hey I'm leaning on stricter immigration as well (along with deportation after a crime), but I'm saying that is the same with any group.

[Gezi Park]

What's that I see there? Iranians observing a moment of silence? Turkey flying flags at half mast? Blood drives?

Le gasp! It cannot of beings!

Except Turkey does not count. I mean; half-mast is a state practice, and since the state is secular, not Islamic, it cannot be an example for that. It's the normal practice of a secular state demonstrating solidarity with an ally nation.

[Greed and Death]

http://www.masjidtoronto.com/2014/10/muslim-association-ofcanada-condemns-violence-in-ottawa-and-montreal/

These little public apologies mean little. If they really wanted to stop the extreme members of their religion, they could do a LOT more. The fact is, they don't really want to. We saw their true feelings when they celebrated in huge crowds in the streets after the Twin Towers fell.

By a lot more what do you mean ?

[Gauthier]

http://www.masjidtoronto.com/2014/10/muslim-association-ofcanada-condemns-violence-in-ottawa-and-montreal/

These little public apologies mean little. If they really wanted to stop the extreme members of their religion, they could do a LOT more. The fact is, they don't really want to. We saw their true feelings when they celebrated in huge crowds in the streets after the Twin Towers fell.

Oh yes, Canadian Muslims all teleported to Palestinian Occupied Territories to celebrate 9/11. My God, Muslims Can Teleport!!

[Gauthier]

These little public apologies mean little. If they really wanted to stop the extreme members of their religion, they could do a LOT more. The fact is, they don't really want to. We saw their true feelings when they celebrated in huge crowds in the streets after the Twin Towers fell.

By a lot more what do you mean ?

Clearly the Canadian Muslims should have tapped into the Muslim Hivemind and report everything they picked up to authorities. *nod nod*

[The balkens]

By a lot more what do you mean ?

Clearly the Canadian Muslims should have tapped into the Muslim Hivemind and report everything they picked up to authorities. *nod nod*

Muslims are telepathic?

[Napkiraly]

These little public apologies mean little. If they really wanted to stop the extreme members of their religion, they could do a LOT more. The fact is, they don't really want to. We saw their true feelings when they celebrated in huge crowds in the streets after the Twin Towers fell.

Oh yes, Canadian Muslims all teleported to Palestinian Occupied Territories to celebrate 9/11. My God, Muslims Can Teleport!!

Muslamic Ray Teleporters m8

[Gauthier]

Clearly the Canadian Muslims should have tapped into the Muslim Hivemind and report everything they picked up to authorities. *nod nod*

Muslims are telepathic?

And since Canadian Muslims celebrated 9/11 in the Palestinian Occupied Territories, they can teleport too!

M, Muslim, M, Mutant. Clearly they all need to be registered. *nod nod*

[The balkens]

Muslims are telepathic?

And since Canadian Muslims celebrated 9/11 in the Palestinian Occupied Territories, they can teleport too!

M, Muslim, M, Mutant. Clearly they all need to be registered. *nod nod*

HOLY SHIT.

[Infected Mushroom]

I think Parliament needs more security.

They should have trained elites (like the Kingsguard) outside of the Commons at all time for instance...

[Alyakia]

Of course the baddies don't go around shouting "We're the baddies" unless it's in a place like Syria. That's why we have the police and CSIS to investigate who are the baddies and a good way of knowing who the baddies are is to go to the non-baddie Muslims, not be dicks, and ask them to help us out - which they have. Then we can catch the baddies without being dickheads to those who do not share their beliefs. Well shit, that was also easy.

Then why don't the "good" muslims do more to denounce violent measures and terrorism? Why don't mosques get rid of imams with extremist leanings, or report extremist members to police? We all know they silently approve of it when these things happen. The extremists have the tacit approval of the rest of the Muslim community, who smirk in private then shake their heads in public to save face so that we'll continue to accommodate them. Don't forget there were celebrations in the streets of middle eastern cities after 9/11. If you believe the moderate muslims are really on our side, then they have fooled you - that's what they want you to think.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... t-HIM.html

lol

[Ontorisa]

So there was an armed gunman running around Halifax for a bit today.

Huffington

CBC

Quick question, just by using a bit of imagination and logic, would the hit and run in Montreal, the shootings in Ottawa and the gunman in Halifax all be connected?

[Alyakia]

So there was an armed gunman running around Halifax for a bit today.

Huffington

CBC

Quick question, just by using a bit of imagination and logic, would the hit and run in Montreal, the shootings in Ottawa and the gunman in Halifax all be connected?

apparently a bunch of assholes who wanted to join ISIS got their passports removed. and those two guys are as far as i know members of said order of assholes. so i suppose it's possible they're all doing copy cat attacks.

[Northwest Slobovia]

So there was an armed gunman running around Halifax for a bit today.

Huffington

CBC

Quick question, just by using a bit of imagination and logic, would the hit and run in Montreal, the shootings in Ottawa and the gunman in Halifax all be connected?

apparently a bunch of assholes who wanted to join ISIS got their passports removed. and those two guys are as far as i know members of said order of assholes. so i suppose it's possible they're all doing copy cat attacks.

Maybe not...

Sources: Ottawa gunman had ties to jihadists

The gunman

Authorities are still in the early stages of their investigation, but they are beginning to piece together the puzzle.

They released surveillance video Thursday that shows events on Wednesday. In the footage, a vehicle pulls up near Parliament, and a man exits, running with a large gun as people run from him. In other footage, this same man then gets into another vehicle, drives to a nearby building, gets out and runs armed into the building pursued by law enforcement.

Zehaf-Bibeau was a Canadian citizen who may have had dual Libyan-Canadian citizenship, said Paulson. The police commissioner said Zehaf-Bibeau was born in Montreal and lived in Calgary and most recently Vancouver.

Zehaf-Bibeau had been in the Canadian capital since at least October 2 "to deal with a passport issue and ... he was also hoping to leave for Syria," Paulson said. Paulson also said of Zehaf-Bibeau: "According to some accounts, he was an individual who may have held extremist beliefs."

Zehaf-Bibeau was applying for a passport -- an application that was under investigation -- at the time of the attack, but had not had his passport revoked, as has been previously reported, Paulson said.

"I think the passport figured prominently in his motives," said the police commissioner. "However, we have not come to ground completely on his motivations for this attack. But clearly, it's linked to his radicalization. Clearly, it's linked to his difficult circumstances."

According to Paulson, investigators thus far have not found any connection between Zehaf-Bibeau and Martin Rouleau Couture -- who authorities say ran down and killed a Canadian soldier in Quebec on Monday. Police later killed Couture.

Canadian Gunman Was Hoping to Leave for Syria

The Canadian man who was shot dead after he killed a soldier and invaded the country's Parliament was in Ottawa applying for a passport and was hoping to leave for Syria, a top police official said today.

Police released more information about Wednesday's shooting as information emerged that Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, 32, had largely lost contact with his parents, had become homeless and his angry demeanor prompted a mosque last year to ask him to leave.

Zehaf-Bibeau had been in Ottawa since Oct. 2 to apply for a new passport, police said, and that "was hoping to leave for Syria." RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson said today that Zehaf-Bibeau's mother told investigators that her son planned to go to Syria. Paulson said officials thought he was planning to go to Libya, his father's homeland, which would not have raised concerns. Syria has become a magnet for radicalized Islamists fighting for the militant ISIS or other radical Islamic groups.

"I think the passport figured prominently in his motives," Paulson said.

"His mother told us yesterday that he wanted to go to Syria," Paulson added.

Paulson said discounted any connection between Zehaf-Bibeau and a man with jihadist sympathies who ran into two Canadian soldiers, killing one, on Monday. He said, however, that investigators do have "information that suggests an association with some individuals that shared his [Zehaf-Bibeau's] radical views."

Zehaf-Bibeau had not been listed as one of the roughly 90 high risk travelers identified by Canadian police, but he was not allowed to be in possession of a firearm because of a criminal history.

More and more curious... I'm a bit surprised going to Libya is A-OK with the Canadian government, since Libya itself is not the most stable country these days.

[Camicon]

I think Parliament needs more security.

They should have trained elites (like the Kingsguard) outside of the Commons at all time for instance...

We do. They're called the RCMP, and they did a damn fine job taking down Bibeau.

[Ontorisa]

I think Parliament needs more security.

They should have trained elites (like the Kingsguard) outside of the Commons at all time for instance...

We do. They're called the RCMP, and they did a damn fine job taking down Bibeau.

They got out preformed by some old politician speaker dude with a gun, aka Canada's Sergeant-at-Arms

[Alyakia]

We do. They're called the RCMP, and they did a damn fine job taking down Bibeau.

They got out preformed by some old politician speaker dude with a gun, aka Canada's Sergeant-at-Arms

who is ex-RCMP

[Anglo-California]

Well hopefully the Canadians recover from this quickly.

[Camicon]

They got out preformed by some old politician speaker dude with a gun, aka Canada's Sergeant-at-Arms

who is ex-RCMP

And an amazing person. Sergeant-at-Arms isn't a position that gets given to some old fart, just to keep them happy in their twilight years. The SaA handles security for the entire Parliament, and controls access to the HoC. Vickers is an accomplished, experienced, veteran RCMP officer. To be outperformed by a man such as him could hardly be considered a failing.

[Alyakia]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... e21278580/

e: because a link alone doesn't do it justice: they made an MP phalanx with flagpole spears