Canadian parliament on lockdown.

[Kouralia]

For the same reason that Eurofighters were scrambled earlier after a bomb threat on a plane in the UK. To escort, and if necessary destroy a hijacked civilian airliner.

While, yes, there is no visible link or evidence of this attack (and the potentially linked shooting in a shopping centre) being the precursor to something bigger (obvious bogeyman is 9/11), it's better to have more planes in the air just in case a previously highly successful terrorist tactic is used again.

Meh... since there's no bomb-on-plane threat currently, seems like overreacting to me.

It is likely pointless. Chances are there won't be a bomb-on-plane threat.

But what if in five minutes a plane suddenly stops responding to communications, deviates from its flight path and begins to head toward down-town Toronto?

That's the point of precautions, you take them in advance so you don't look like a twat afterwards when you've got a lot of broken pieces to pick up.

[Sanctissima]

For God's sake this is Canada! This kind of shit doesn't happen here.

As a Canadian, this stereotype fucking annoys me. It can happen anywhere. One of the worst school massacres was in Montreal (Ecole Polytechnic), we've had other types of bad events. Does it happen less frequently? Yes. But it's not something that doesn't happen at all.

And as a fellow Canadian, I can assure you, it's not just a stereotype. Yes, we have the occasional psychopath that gets ahold of a rifle or two and our crime rate isn't the best, but we aren't usually the target for terrorist attacks.

[Napkiraly]

Why have guards if they flee if one guard gets shot?

I'm not sure if the guards at the Monument carry live ammunition with them. If not, it's really understandable. Plus it's easier to respond more effectively when you've pulled back and can properly determine what is going on.

[Britanno]

This, Stephen Harper, is what happens when you're a complete bellend.

Trudeau 2015.

[Sacred United Rome]

Why have Guards if they flee if one Guard falls?

Rule #1 for police, guards, armed forces, firefighters, paramedics etc: FIRST check that YOU are safe yourself. THEN proceed to help others.

I thought soldier guards are supposed to return fire and that guards protecting parliament are supposed to protect parliament even at the risk of death.

[Buse]

Yeah, there's absolutely no record of Christians attacking governmental offices in North America before.

Oh wait...

Really, Christians 1 minor terror attack and Muslims 9/11 and the Bostons bombings (ignoring ISIL and other world wide bombings), yet for you they are the same. When Christians readical do something like th 9/11 than call me.

[The balkens]

This, Stephen Harper, is what happens when you're a complete bellend.

Trudeau 2015.

wait. WHAT!?

[Insaeldor]

This, Stephen Harper, is what happens when you're a complete bellend.

Trudeau 2015.

Don't think you can really blame Harper for this. That's like blame Obama for the fence Jumper or bush for the Beltway sniper attacks.

[Risottia]

But what if in five minutes a plane suddenly stops responding to communications, deviates from its flight path and begins to head toward down-town Toronto?

How much time does it take to scramble a couple of fighters in Canada? I know Eurofighters can be up in the air on a 2 minutes' notice.
I maintain: overreaction. Especially because you don't begin an action featuring an hijacking with a shootout near the Parliament. It's stupid - it would only increase the alert.

[Buse]

Who knows. It could be by some group of mentally ill people who play lots of COD and think COD is like real life.
But that has hasn't happened before.
Wait................................

Or, some radical progressive killed because the government is demonising Muslims. We all know that the progressives and pro-immigration crowd are not violent and they would never do such thing. Oh, wait...!

[Napkiraly]

As a Canadian, this stereotype fucking annoys me. It can happen anywhere. One of the worst school massacres was in Montreal (Ecole Polytechnic), we've had other types of bad events. Does it happen less frequently? Yes. But it's not something that doesn't happen at all.

And as a fellow Canadian, I can assure you, it's not just a stereotype. Yes, we have the occasional psychopath that gets ahold of a rifle or two and our crime rate isn't the best, but we aren't usually the target for terrorist attacks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Canada

And we've been a target for quite sometime. Remember the bottle bomb plot way back when? IIRC one of the airliners targeted for that was Air Canada.

[Thanatttynia]

How do you know this? Racist's intuition?

No by probability. If Canada was going through a wave of violent incidences with Quebec separatists (ie like in the late 60's to early 70's) then you'd place your bet on a Quebec sovereignty group. Recently we've had threats levelled against Canada by ISIS, reports of radicalised Canadian Muslims going to or attempting to go to Syria to join ISIS, an incident yesterday involving Canadian soldiers and a radicalised Canadian Muslim and iirc the terrorism threat level had been raised back home. Also Canada recently voted to join the military intervention against ISIS and have been supporting groups like the Iraqi military and Peshmerga for some time. So probability goes to a radicalised Canadian Muslim, though there is also the chance it could be some dickheads doing it for who knows what reason.

No, but I tell you what, he's taken the smart bet about the possible perpetrators of this heinous crime. Seems unlikely that it'd be anyone else, especially if its a group thing, last time I checked Nunavut didn't host a militant group so it kind of narrows things


Not sure the media should be showing live images of the police camped out, if I were a sniper in a nearby apartment, its pretty much tv shopping for psychopaths

Whether or not it was an Islamist Extremist (which I would admit would be likely), the assumption of blame before no evidence is not right.

I do agree with you, but I don't think we can properly place the blame yet. Take for example the Oklahoma City Bombings; I would have put my money on an Islamist revenge attack for the Gulf Wars, but it wasn't.

[Kouralia]

Why have guards if they flee if one guard gets shot?

Because their job is more along the lines of 'stop tourists being arses' than 'DEFEND THE MONUMENT TO THE LAST, MEN! FIRE WHEN YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THEIR EYES!'

[Insaeldor]

Who knows. It could be by some group of mentally ill people who play lots of COD and think COD is like real life.
But that has hasn't happened before.
Wait................................

Or, some radical progressive killed because the government is demonising Muslims. We all know that the progressives and pro-immigration crowd are not violent and they would never do such thing. Oh, wait...!

Let's wait for the police report before we jump to conclusions.

[Kalifati Arab shqiptar]

Checking toronto star, the people commenting are pretty fucked up. They blame Islam, lol stupid racists

[Sanctissima]

But what if in five minutes a plane suddenly stops responding to communications, deviates from its flight path and begins to head toward down-town Toronto?

How much time does it take to scramble a couple of fighters in Canada? I know Eurofighters can be up in the air on a 2 minutes' notice.
I maintain: overreaction. Especially because you don't begin an action featuring an hijacking with a shootout near the Parliament. It's stupid - it would only increase the alert.

Keep in mind that the last time someone thought it was an overreaction, two towers and a military command centre went up in flames.

[Sanctissima]

And as a fellow Canadian, I can assure you, it's not just a stereotype. Yes, we have the occasional psychopath that gets ahold of a rifle or two and our crime rate isn't the best, but we aren't usually the target for terrorist attacks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Canada

And we've been a target for quite sometime. Remember the bottle bomb plot way back when? IIRC one of the airliners targeted for that was Air Canada.

As I said, per capita, it's quite a difference. Just compare it to our neighbour.

[Risottia]

Yeah, there's absolutely no record of Christians attacking governmental offices in North America before.

Oh wait...

Really, Christians 1 minor terror attack and Muslims 9/11 and the Bostons bombings (ignoring ISIL and other world wide bombings), yet for you they are the same. When Christians readical do something like th 9/11 than call me.

Yeah, the 168 people killed by a Christian extremist - and the about 700 injured - at Oklahoma city are just a "minor attack" because if it's done by Christians it cannot be truly evil I guess. Or do we want to talk Breivik too?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

Shame on you.

[Napkiraly]

This, Stephen Harper, is what happens when you're a complete bellend.

Trudeau 2015.

The flying of all fucks? So wait...we're attacked...and you blame fucking Harper? Holy fucking shit.

[Insaeldor]

Checking toronto star, the people commenting are pretty fucked up. They blame Islam, lol stupid racists

Wouldn't say it's racist they obviously have president to say it's been done by radical Islamist given the events of the past 48 hours they do have good reason to suspect an Islamist terror attack. Now if they are blaming the whole of Islam I can see where your coming from.

[Risottia]

How much time does it take to scramble a couple of fighters in Canada? I know Eurofighters can be up in the air on a 2 minutes' notice.
I maintain: overreaction. Especially because you don't begin an action featuring an hijacking with a shootout near the Parliament. It's stupid - it would only increase the alert.

Keep in mind that the last time someone thought it was an overreaction, two towers and a military command centre went up in flames.

Proof or bullshit.

[The balkens]

This, Stephen Harper, is what happens when you're a complete bellend.

Trudeau 2015.

The flying of all fucks? So wait...we're attacked...and you blame fucking Harper? Holy fucking shit.

Politics, amirite.

disgusting.

[Bandwagon]

For God's sake this is Canada! This kind of shit doesn't happen here.

As a Canadian, this stereotype fucking annoys me. It can happen anywhere. One of the worst school massacres was in Montreal (Ecole Polytechnic), we've had other types of bad events. Does it happen less frequently? Yes. But it's not something that doesn't happen at all.

As an Irish person, we have the same stereotype. It's stupid. There's been only one terrorist attack in the last 40 years in Dublin that comes to mind. The Dublin and Monaghan bombings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_and_Monaghan_bombings
But terrorists fight each other in Northern Ireland frequently. By frequently up to twice weekly somebody's killed, every night a shooting or homes being set on fire.
Edit: We have a threat as well as other countries. 30 Irish are fighting for ISIL.

[Santa Susanna]

Whut? Canada is the most friendly and kind country in the world.
Why attacking them?

[Buse]

This happened two days ago, as it points out the only terrorists in Canada are Muslims and Queboice separatist. The former are likely to done it and the incident from two days ago seems to be connected with that of today.

The liberals will despite all this continue to convince the people that Muslim immigrants are hardworking people who can never do not to a human but even to a bug.