Is War A Valid Option To Deal With Putin?

[Everlyn]

We all know Russian President Putin is growing out of hand. Something has to be done, since economic sanctions aren't effective since they were issued against Russia. Should war be brought forth? Or is there yet another option?

[The Sotoan Union]

Who?

[Everlyn]

Who?

My bad. President Putin. Typo. I fixed it.

[Napkiraly]

Is this an actual serious question?

[Goddess Relief Office]

Putin is the greatest Russian leader the country has got in 3 centuries.

[Eemeria]

I do feel war is going to have to happen. Putin has his own agenda and refuses to go along with the international community. Only issue with war is the fact that Russia is highly nuclear capable, something that threatens the whole world. Putin has forced our hand and the only way for us to go to war would be with the risk of nuclear war. Big issue.

[The Sotoan Union]

Who?

My bad. President Putin. Typo. I fixed it.

Well I don't think war with Russia will ever be a good idea. How would that help any of the areas in conflict?

[Everlyn]

Putin is the greatest Russian leader the country has got in 3 centuries.

One who is aiding pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine? The same rebels who SHOT DOWN a commercial plane AND KILLED everyone on board? That's real great. Good Putnin.

[Valica]

I mean...

Russia hasn't really headed any direct aggression towards nations other than Ukraine and Malaysia.

So if you are asking if Malaysia should go to war with Russia (being that Ukraine already is), then no.
They'd be crushed.

On a serious note and what I suspect you are asking:

Should America go to war with Russia?

They haven't attacked us yet... so no.
If they attack an ally unprovoked, then we can come back to this issue.

[Everlyn]

I do feel war is going to have to happen. Putin has his own agenda and refuses to go along with the international community. Only issue with war is the fact that Russia is highly nuclear capable, something that threatens the whole world. Putin has forced our hand and the only way for us to go to war would be with the risk of nuclear war. Big issue.

That is a big issue. Nuclear War would be horrible for the world, but we are running out of options.

[Maineiacs]

We all know Russian President Putin is growing out of hand. Something has to be done, since economic sanctions aren't effective since they were issued against Russia. Should war be brought forth? Or is there yet another option?

Yes, a nuclear holocaust that kills all 7+ billion people on the planet would be totally worth it.

What the hell kind of question is that? Get a clue: Life Is Not A Video Game.

[Lemanrussland]

Under certain conditions, yes. We haven't reached those conditions yet, and it's not likely that we will. Maybe if Putin gets lazy with his Salami tactics and cuts too thick of a slice at some point, we'll have a confrontation or some kind of diplomatic crisis that teeters on the brink of a confrontation.

[Cardulan]

If war is not the answer, we must have asked the wrong question.

[United Marxist Nations]

Only if we can implement a plan to consolidate our mine-shaft space.

[United Marxist Nations]

I mean...

Russia hasn't really headed any direct aggression towards nations other than Ukraine and Malaysia.

So if you are asking if Malaysia should go to war with Russia (being that Ukraine already is), then no.
They'd be crushed.

On a serious note and what I suspect you are asking:

Should America go to war with Russia?

They haven't attacked us yet... so no.
If they attack an ally unprovoked, then we can come back to this issue.

How has it headed aggression on Malaysia? As has been noted in the Ukraine thread, German intelligence has come to the conclusion that the Buk was taken by rebels from Ukraine, and that the shooting down was a case of mistaken identity.

[Valica]

I mean...

Russia hasn't really headed any direct aggression towards nations other than Ukraine and Malaysia.

So if you are asking if Malaysia should go to war with Russia (being that Ukraine already is), then no.
They'd be crushed.

On a serious note and what I suspect you are asking:

Should America go to war with Russia?

They haven't attacked us yet... so no.
If they attack an ally unprovoked, then we can come back to this issue.

How has it headed aggression on Malaysia? As has been noted in the Ukraine thread, German intelligence has come to the conclusion that the Buk was taken by rebels from Ukraine, and that the shooting down was a case of mistaken identity.

I thought the plane was shot down by pro-Russian separatists.

[United Marxist Nations]

How has it headed aggression on Malaysia? As has been noted in the Ukraine thread, German intelligence has come to the conclusion that the Buk was taken by rebels from Ukraine, and that the shooting down was a case of mistaken identity.

I thought the plane was shot down by pro-Russian separatists.

It was, because they thought it was one of the Ukrainian transports, of which they had shot a few down before the airliner shoot down.

[National Socialist Korea]

God no. It's an insane choice towards Pan-Human Screwing, aka Nuclear Winter.

[Great Kleomentia]

There is nothing that i could say to the OP that wouldn't get me deleted.

[Scepez]

Send an assassin to poison him or something.
War is not an option.

[National Socialist Republics of Europe]

War is not a valid option. Annihilation is a valid option.

[Valica]

I thought the plane was shot down by pro-Russian separatists.

It was, because they thought it was one of the Ukrainian transports, of which they had shot a few down before the airliner shoot down.

If I accidentally kill the president of country A because I thought he was the president of country B, it was still an act of aggression towards country A.
Just because it was mistaken identity doesn't negate the fact that they shot down a Malaysian flight.

[New Endar]

Khrushchev was a much more aggressive leader than Putin, and we managed to avoid a major confrontation there.

And no, I do not believe that war with the Russian Federation is a viable option, he has dealt his hand well and forced the world powers into an odd position, its nuclear war or no war basically. And who knows who's side China is really on, the same with India. Most of the Indian military is trained with the aid of Russian trainers and their military programs are aided by Russia. China and Russia are pretty buddy buddy and China even bailed them out when Obama put sanctions on the Russian natural gas.

And at the end of the day, Putin is a fantastic leader for Russia. Furthermore, the geopolitical climate in that region is heated for historical reasons. Keeping in mind that up until 91, the Ukraine was ruled as a part of Russia for at least 700+ years, making Ukraine a relatively new country with strong ties to Russia.

[United Marxist Nations]

It was, because they thought it was one of the Ukrainian transports, of which they had shot a few down before the airliner shoot down.

If I accidentally kill the president of country A because I thought he was the president of country B, it was still an act of aggression towards country A.
Just because it was mistaken identity doesn't negate the fact that they shot down a Malaysian flight.

Not really comparable. This situation was two entities engaging in a war in which military troop transports are heavily involved, one side with a lack of ability to tell exactly what it is looking at ( because they only had the launcher, not advanced radar) sees a jetliner, assumes it is a military troop transport (like the other two they had already shot down), and fired on what they assume to be a military target. Upon investigation by the rebels, they realize their mistake, and have aided OSCE investigators.

[Luziyca]

No, it isn't.

This.