Should Women Have to Sign Up For Selective Service Too?

[Waffle-munching Robots]

do you think women should have the right to vote, period? what are you actually saying here?

Women should have the right to vote. Women shouldn't have to sign up for potential conscription to do so. Ta da.

So you're saying women are too weak to go in the army? Is that what you're saying?

[Waffle-munching Robots]

I do think the idea of conscription is stupid though

[Zaldakki]

Of course they should have to sign up.

Then again, women are often considered too precious to put at risk, thanks to our gynocentric instinct.

I wouldn't say it's gynocentric—more like androcentric. It's a bit patronizing to women to say that only men should risk their lives for them, as if women can't defend themselves.

[Ayreonia]

I don't even understand why a state like the US even has Selective Service. It screams no, we're a civilized nation, we don't use conscripts... oops, a war, we kinda sorta do. Having a huge professional military kinda negates the need.

[The 502nd SS]

We haven't drafted anyone for a long time.

I was so happy when I got my selective service number a month ago, I think everyone should sign up for it.

[Ifreann]

We haven't drafted anyone for a long time.

I was so happy when I got my selective service number a month ago, I think everyone should sign up for it.

That is a strange thing to be happy about.

[Czeckolutania]

We haven't drafted anyone for a long time.

I was so happy when I got my selective service number a month ago, I think everyone should sign up for it.

That is a strange thing to be happy about.

I found it slightly ridiculous that I had to register for selective service even though I'm already enlisted (but not yet deployed). Regardless I still felt a great deal of satisfaction and pride when I registered.

[West Pacific]

Folks, this is not conscription in the sense that most Europeans understand it. America has never used conscription in the manner European nations used it, which likely creates some confusion. Believe it or not, throughout most of American history a standing army was considered tyrannical, a symbol of all that was wrong with European monarchies, and the draft was used only as an emergency procedure to augment the armed forces in time of war. WWII marked the first time that America did not demilitarize completely following an armed conflict. The only exception to this came in 1940 when the government initiated the draft prior to America's involvement but still after the beginning of WWII. A person registering for Selective Service does not constitute being drafted and the reason the Selective Service remains around is that privacy laws prevent one department of government from sharing most information with other departments.

[Ifreann]

That is a strange thing to be happy about.

I found it slightly ridiculous that I had to register for selective service even though I'm already enlisted (but not yet deployed). Regardless I still felt a great deal of satisfaction and pride when I registered.

Don't get that at all.

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Folks, this is not conscription in the sense that most Europeans understand it. America has never used conscription in the manner European nations used it, which likely creates some confusion.

No, it doesn't. We all understand that signing up for the SSS does not actually involve serving in the armed forces unless the federal government decides to institute a draft.

A person registering for Selective Service does not constitute being drafted and the reason the Selective Service remains around is that privacy laws prevent one department of government from sharing most information with other departments.

The SSS is still around because there isn't the political will to remove it despite it being largely pointless.

[Kratu]

No, how about getting rid of the Selective service system instead.

This but if we can't do that then yes the women should have to sign up for the draft too.

[Imperializt Russia]

I don't even understand why a state like the US even has Selective Service. It screams no, we're a civilized nation, we don't use conscripts... oops, a war, we kinda sorta do. Having a huge professional military kinda negates the need.

It's not needed until European Scuffle III or the accompanying strategic nuclear exchange, no.

[MERIZoC]

Nobody should.

[Haktiva]

Of course they should have to sign up.

Then again, women are often considered too precious to put at risk, thanks to our gynocentric instinct.

I wouldn't say it's gynocentric—more like androcentric. It's a bit patronizing to women to say that only men should risk their lives for them, as if women can't defend themselves.

gynocentrism is a the instinct that women deserve protection above others because they're the limiting factor in reproduction. We've certainly reached a point where our population is well above replacement(as a species, not going by various countries with falling birth rates) and have the technology where a woman can defend herself without men, hell, the can technically get pregnant without men and marriage via in vitro fertilization(though you still need men to provide the semen, of course).

honestly women don't need men anymore for a lot of things and men don't need women for much of the same reasons. gynocentrism is an outdated instinct that needs to die. Women can defend themselves and provide for themselves, provided technology and industry allows them to negate sexual dimorphism.

[Coreyea]

No, not the job of women to fight wars. They shouldn't even be working, should just stay home to cook and clean.

[Imperializt Russia]

No, not the job of women to fight wars. They shouldn't even be working, should just stay home to cook and clean.

Wow, so edgy. You might even be funny.

[Haktiva]

No, not the job of women to fight wars. They shouldn't even be working, should just stay home to cook and clean.

Most of them can't even do that properly anymore.

[Ifreann]

No, not the job of women to fight wars. They shouldn't even be working, should just stay home to cook and clean.

Most of them can't even do that properly anymore.

And people wonder why there are so few women on this forum.

[Haktiva]

Most of them can't even do that properly anymore.

And people wonder why there are so few women on this forum.

*Statement about women's lack of interest and lack of backbone that will get me banned*

[The 502nd SS]

No, not the job of women to fight wars. They shouldn't even be working, should just stay home to cook and clean.

I agree with part of this opinion

[Infected Mushroom]

The way I see it, men in the US have to earn their right to vote by signing up to get drafted, while women don't. If women are in favor of equality under the law, then they should have to do the same.

By all accounts nobody should be forced into conscription as far as I'm concerned. But as it stands, women in the US aren't doing what men have to do in order to earn their right to vote. As it stands, men are forced to serve their country while women have the option to.

Then again, women are often considered too precious to put at risk, thanks to our gynocentric instinct. If we aren't gonna let women risk getting themselves blown up, then we may as well ban them from driving as well, like in Saudi Arabia. But at least there they get their own ATMs, which men are forbidden from using. Some patriarchy eh?

Yes. Women should also be drafted, if they want the benefits of equality, they are going to need to bear the costs and risks too. Its only fair.

[Haktiva]

The way I see it, men in the US have to earn their right to vote by signing up to get drafted, while women don't. If women are in favor of equality under the law, then they should have to do the same.

By all accounts nobody should be forced into conscription as far as I'm concerned. But as it stands, women in the US aren't doing what men have to do in order to earn their right to vote. As it stands, men are forced to serve their country while women have the option to.

Then again, women are often considered too precious to put at risk, thanks to our gynocentric instinct. If we aren't gonna let women risk getting themselves blown up, then we may as well ban them from driving as well, like in Saudi Arabia. But at least there they get their own ATMs, which men are forbidden from using. Some patriarchy eh?

Yes. Women should also be drafted, if they want the benefits of equality, they are going to need to bear the costs and risks too. Its only fair.

women can be meat shields too!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

And people wonder why there are so few women on this forum.

*Statement about women's lack of interest and lack of backbone that will get me banned*

I'm pretty sure you and everyone else who thinks that way would agree.

[Imperializt Russia]

No, not the job of women to fight wars. They shouldn't even be working, should just stay home to cook and clean.

I agree with part of this opinion

Why is it not?

[Haktiva]

*Statement about women's lack of interest and lack of backbone that will get me banned*

I'm pretty sure you and everyone else who thinks that way would agree.

here's a question, is it a problem that women aren't on this forum that much?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

We haven't drafted anyone for a long time.

I was so happy when I got my selective service number a month ago, I think everyone should sign up for it.

That is a strange thing to be happy about.

Well, it's because it's the Selective Service! It is... selective