North Korea Megathread

[Allentyr]

Im LOLing so hard at these jokes

[Arumdaum]

The problem with that is that South Korea does not recognize the legitimacy of the North Korean government, and claims governance over all of Korea. It even has governors for the northern regions.

South Korea wouldn't keep the north independent. If anything, it'd probably just create some temporary restrictions (such as preventing South Korean businesses dominate the north, and preventing a massive downpour of North Koreans into the south) until things become more equalized.

I'm 99% sure North Korea also claims the peninsula, and has brainwashed its population.
Being governed by Seoul might create unrest if they were to be outright annexed. I think a puppet government is the appropriate choice, and one Seoul would take, before reunification - just like Vietnam.

Both governments claim to be the sole legitimate government of Korea. You'll notice that the countries don't really call themselves "North Korea" and "South Korea," but rather the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" and the "Republic of Korea." The view is generally that Korea is one country with two rival governments.

Essentially, going back a little bit (only to the relevant bits)

continuation of Korea
Joseon Dynasty (1392 - 1910)
Japanese colonization (1910 - 1945)
US/USSR occupation (1945 - 1948)
New government for independent Korea (1948 - present)

Both the ROK and DPRK claim to be the sole legitimate government. South Koreans aren't generally considered to be foreigners in North Korea, and vice versa, although some people do treat North Koreans as being lesser Koreans.

Both governments promote the sense of a Korean identity, rather than North or South Korean identity. The division was meant to be a temporary while elections were planned, but Korea ended up becoming one of the pawns in the early Cold War.

Seoul was the official capital of North Korea until 1972, when North Korean officials realized that they probably weren't going to be controlling Seoul for a while.

The brainwashed statement is overdone. A good deal don't believe it, according to statements by defectors. Changing perceptions of the outside world, especially due to increased access to smuggled goods such as TVs and radios, has also resulted in a change in North Korean propaganda.

[Arumdaum]

The problem with that is that South Korea does not recognize the legitimacy of the North Korean government, and claims governance over all of Korea. It even has governors for the northern regions.

South Korea wouldn't keep the north independent. If anything, it'd probably just create some temporary restrictions (such as preventing South Korean businesses dominate the north, and preventing a massive downpour of North Koreans into the south) until things become more equalized.

Ahh, I admit my knowledge of the peninsula is rather limited, so that does seem like the most likely course.

I did think to myself after I posted that "Wait, South Korea claims North Korea...)

it's ok lol

in middle school we had to make pro-reunification posters, and we were told of how great reunification would be because

1. railway to china/russia/europe/etc
2. north korea has rich minerals and plus rich in resources + advanced economy = great
3. korea strong (nukes)
4. i forgot

lol

[Bezkoshtovnya]

When he fell, he created a bigger reading on the Richter scale than their last nuclear test.

And I can now go to sleep content.

[Reformed SU]

Egad! Ye of little faith, are you implying those to be FALSE?

Sorry, I'm paid off by the Corporate Communist group of Rothschild Jewish Bolshevmuslims that control the world and want to take away White peoples guns and make everyone have a microchip implanted, so obviously I have to state that things like "fema camps" are false.

What about the US Mint, the money printer of America, is being tightly controlled by the Federal Reserve, a bunch of private shareholders, and the US Government themselves can't go in the Fed Reserve...
Regular citizen asks for loan.
Gov bank asks Fed Reserve for more money.
Fed Reserve orders US Mint to print money.
US Mint gives money to F.R.
F.R. gives money to government banks.
Government banks give money to citizen.
Citizen owes back money, if not able to pay back, the government takes your crap away and tries to refund it.
If the government is short on cash to pay back to the Fed Reserve, they begin tax increase by ten cents or more.
Slightly increased tax (45¢ for ten cheap items varying at a total of $5-$10 at a local walmart for example) • maybe half of the US that gets the same total (316/2=158 million)= 71.1 million dollars.
The process repeats...with a lot more variables into this equation of life in the US.

[Alyakia]

He's a goddamn dictator.

What does that have to do with his weight? I mean, I'll readily admit to bigotry towards the overweight but even I can't bring myself to such dickery. No matter who it is.

he stuffs his face full of junk food while his people starve. his weight is (as far as we know) a direct result of his being a dictator/massive prick.

[Arumdaum]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/kim-jongun-falls-off-the-radar-as-the-two-koreas-agree-to-talk-9774967.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... e20932994/

I like the possibility of a coup in North Korea. It would be about damn time to say the least.

The best thing which could happen is a coup occurring and North Korean leaders striking a deal with the South in that the North Korean elite gets to retain some power and still be rich (maybe they can head big mining corporations idk) in exchange for a reunified Korea under the South.

or maybe new elections for everyone since sk's president rn is sorta shitty

but there is -5% that is going to happen

[Arumdaum]

And I thought I was chubby. Good lord.

It's probably fake, considering a lot of outrageous claims are made about Korea.

Also since we'd probably be hearing about these cases a lot more considering the prevalence of obesity (including those who are much, much fatter than Kim Jong-un) in Western countries, if things like this happened this easily.

[Reformed SU]

And I thought I was chubby. Good lord.

It's probably fake, considering a lot of outrageous claims are made about Korea.

Also since we'd probably be hearing about these cases a lot more considering the prevalence of obesity (including those who are much, much fatter than Kim Jong-un) in Western countries, if things like this happened this easily.

We have people at immense weight over in the US and I have never heard about someone's ankles shattering, unless he had some type of Brittle Bone disease...

[Grenartia]

im pretty sure china doesn't want them.

The only reason they would is if they view it as a sphere of influence issue. They worry reunification would lead to Americans on their door step.

So, let me get this straight. China has no problem with letting in American tourists, nor even American companies, but the second North Korea reunifies under the South, they're gonna be screaming and hollering bloody Mary about "AMERICANS ON OUR DOORSTEP!"?

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Can we start calling him Kim "Physcon" III? Is there a Korean equivalent, maybe?

[Maineiacs]

Please let there be a picture of Lil' Kimmy on a scooter.

[Of the Quendi]

Inbreeding will do that to you.

What inbreeding? There was no familial relation between Kim Jong-Il and Ko Yong-Hui.

[Arkinesia]

*sniff*

*sniff sniff*

You smell that?

Smells like…propaganda.

With the DPRK basically on the brink of civil war, my theory is that KJU is being kept safe by a cache of loyalist forces. The ankle story here is just a fabrication to explain away his recent disappearance to the DPRK's public.

[Costa Fierro]

Must be hard being the fat person in his country.

He is the one percent of body weight in North Korea.

#OccupyKimJongUn

[Australian rePublic]

[Toronina]

Must be hard being the fat person in his country.

He is the one percent of body weight in North Korea.

#OccupyKimJongUn

Legalize Best Korea, Impeach Freedom, Bad Korea is theft. KJU 2018. not voting for glorious leader equals death

[Greater Beggnig]

Ahh, I admit my knowledge of the peninsula is rather limited, so that does seem like the most likely course.

I did think to myself after I posted that "Wait, South Korea claims North Korea...)

it's ok lol

in middle school we had to make pro-reunification posters, and we were told of how great reunification would be because

1. railway to china/russia/europe/etc
2. north korea has rich minerals and plus rich in resources + advanced economy = great
3. korea strong (nukes)
4. i forgot

lol

4. Lots of interesting antiquated weapons, WW2 artillery, etc. for museums on Reunification!

On a more serious note:

4 was probably increase in workforce, or something else.

[British Prussia]

it's ok lol

in middle school we had to make pro-reunification posters, and we were told of how great reunification would be because

1. railway to china/russia/europe/etc
2. north korea has rich minerals and plus rich in resources + advanced economy = great
3. korea strong (nukes)
4. i forgot

lol

4. Lots of interesting antiquated weapons, WW2 artillery, etc. for museums on Reunification!

On a more serious note:

4 was probably increase in workforce, or something else.

5. Juche 2.0

[Costa Fierro]

or maybe new elections for everyone since sk's president rn is sorta shitty

Please do tell.

[Kernan]

or maybe new elections for everyone since sk's president rn is sorta shitty

Please do tell.

I main problem with Park is that she had the NIS tamper with the votes in the 2012 election to help her win. Although we do not have any definitive proof there is any sort of tampering. Had the police announced honestly then almost 14 percent of South Koreans would have voted for the runner up, making him win. But I digress. While I do think reunification should be their ultimate goal I strongly think that it should be a very slow integration process where NK is slowly brought up to speed from the DMZ north.

[Imperializt Russia]

The North Korean capital has been placed under lockdown, according to sources with Pyongyang, raising new questions about the stability of Kim Jong-un's regime.

Quoting sources within North Korea, the respected New Focus International news web site has reported that a ban on new travel passes to leave or enter Pyongyang was introduced on September 27.

And while the North Korean authorities have in the past limited access to the capital, the latest restrictions even apply to permanent residents of Pyongyang, who are by definition the elite of the regime.

DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!

Well this is certainly an interesting development. With KJU essentially incapacitated due to illness and rumours that he isn't even in control of the country anymore, what does this latest development present in terms of the potential for stability in North Korea? This appears to be as of yet unchartered waters for the regime and I can imagine things might be a little tense.

What say you, non-North Koreans?

You act like this is somehow surprising. KJU came to power amidst what was almost a coup. He's ran his own mini-Purge and now, while rumours abound Dear Leader is ill, they're probably tightening a strangehold on the elite to prevent a coup against KJU.

[SaintB]

I doubt its true. We'll eventually find out its from a Chinese or South Korean tabloid.

[Bolrieg]

How could this happen? He's the Dear Leader he has magical powers to have a long and healthy life. (Being the internet people are often confused whether comments like these are genuine or sarcastic because it's usually the same, in this case it's sarcasm.)

[Imperializt Russia]

Still not buying it, KJU weighs about 280 based on what I've read. My dads a solid 260 and his ankles haven't snapped, plus he's older than KJU. So unless Kimmy has some really weak bones it's just another stupid story that got spread across the internet

You know that even the "elite" of the North probably have an atrocious and not-exactly-nutritious diet, right?
I'd be willing to bet that much of the "elite" does have quite weak bones.