Who is the greatest leader Russia has had

[Napkiraly]

charlemagne of course

Nah, Rurik was better.

[Briwen]

i only know cathrine thats why cathrine the great. 8exept for gorbachow and putin, but both sucked, they didnt do anything major, maybe Putin will do something major for the Russian people, but we will see there is a lot of potential it depends on which way he takes.)

[Jute]

Does Rasputin count? If not, maybe Gorbachev, because of his reformation policies.

[Sdaeriji]

Peter I. That's why we call him the Great.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

i only know cathrine thats why cathrine the great. 8exept for gorbachow and putin, but both sucked, they didnt do anything major, maybe Putin will do something major for the Russian people, but we will see there is a lot of potential it depends on which way he takes.)

Gorbachev didn't do anything major?

He disbanded the Soviet Union for fucks sake!

Nothing major, pffff.

[The Archregimancy]

Still no love for Prince Lvov?

Which one?

This one; he's the Didius Julianus of Russian history.

[Kanatistan]

i only know cathrine thats why cathrine the great. 8exept for gorbachow and putin, but both sucked, they didnt do anything major, maybe Putin will do something major for the Russian people, but we will see there is a lot of potential it depends on which way he takes.)

WHAT?! What planet are you on.

[Baltenstein]

Does Rasputin count? If not, maybe Gorbachev, because of his reformation policies.

So what did Rasputin do that would make him a candidate for the title of "Russia's greatest leader"?

[Disgusting Ones]

Stalin is a great leader of Russia.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

Does Rasputin count? If not, maybe Gorbachev, because of his reformation policies.

Rasputin was the court wizard, not a leader of the nation.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

Stalin is a great leader of Russia.

[Aristoya]

I'd say Kruchtchev, he actually really tried at least.

[Jetan]

The first two Alexanders were nice enough. The rest, well...

Alexander I gave us autonomy in the past and Vladimir Lenin acknowledged our independence, whereas Nicholas II and Joseph Stalin were the most horrible to us, if my historical knowledge is to be trusted.

Suomi?

[Farnhamia]

Which one?

This one; he's the Didius Julianus of Russian history.

Ah, Georgy Yevgenyevich. For a minute I thought you meant he purchased a leadership position in Russia. I met some of his ancestors on one of my hunting trips to Russia in the 16th or 17th century.

[Czechanada]

Still no love for Prince Lvov?

I'm surprised that you didn't say Ivan III.

[Organized States]

Catherine the Great. She led Russia into a Golden Age that rivaled that of Europe.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Catherine or Alexander II

[Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism]

Does Rasputin count? If not, maybe Gorbachev, because of his reformation policies.

Rasputin was the court wizard, not a leader of the nation.

Someone needs to raise Rasputin from the dead, deport Putin to Moon and make Rasputin the General Secretary of Eastern Slavia. I mean, who wouldn't want this beast to lead everyone?

The first two Alexanders were nice enough. The rest, well...

Alexander I gave us autonomy in the past and Vladimir Lenin acknowledged our independence, whereas Nicholas II and Joseph Stalin were the most horrible to us, if my historical knowledge is to be trusted.

Suomi?

[Jetan]

The first two Alexanders were nice enough. The rest, well...


Suomi?

Joukkomme kasvaa jälleen.

[Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism]

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Joukkomme kasvaa jälleen.

Me suomalaiset tulemme valloittamaan KansallisValtiot.

About the Alexanders, wasn't the second one a douche to Finns? Or was it the third one?EDIT: Scratch that, it was just Jack Nicholson II and no one else.

[Berdanvia]

What about Rasputin.
He saved Russia
He protected Russia
He was the one and only RASPUTIN!!!

[Lyttenburg]

Gorby. Hands down.

Gorbachev, the one who initiated many good reforms in Russia.

Russia really needs to get rid of the maniac Putin and get someone like Gorbachev.

Gorbachev didn't do anything major?

He disbanded the Soviet Union for fucks sake!

Nothing major, pffff.

As an American, I'd say Gorbachev. The collapse of the USSR was a wonderful thing for us, and for the world.

And this is exactly why Russians consider him one of the worst leaders. 'cause "ruining your country while carrying out half-hearted reforms" is not a qualifier for a great ruler.

My opinion:

- Either Ivan III the Great, who actually created Russia in all but name, modernized Russian military, made the Moscow the primer princedom of Rus, by conquering or making other princedom's his vassals, for officialy ending the Tatar-Mongol Yoke, for building the modern Kremlin and marrring into Byzantine royalty.

- Or Alexey Mikhaylovitch Romanov, father of Peter I, who, long before his son, initiated all much needed reforms of army, administration, church etc., which allowed Russia to become a real state.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

What about Rasputin.
He saved Russia
He protected Russia
He was the one and only RASPUTIN!!!

He wasn't a leader, and as for "saving" russia; debatable.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

What about Rasputin.
He saved Russia
He protected Russia
He was the one and only RASPUTIN!!!

He wasn't a leader, and as for "saving" russia; debatable.

[Bandwagon]

Boris Yeltsin. For the greatest diplomatic efforts in World History. Getting drunk on a State Visit to Ireland and not being able to get off the plane in Shannon Airport. It was an incident of great statesmanship. Only the bravest can do it.