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by Geilinor » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:06 pm
by Anglo-California » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:09 pm
by Faustin Land » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:16 pm
by OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:18 pm
Vetalia wrote:No love for Khrushchev...
by Pandeeria » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:28 pm
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Maldovania » Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:50 pm
Pandeeria wrote:I'm staring to realize how shitty and shitter Russia has always been, and it's leaders are another example.
by San Lumen » Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:28 pm
by The Nuclear Fist » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:34 pm
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
by Lyttenburg » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:21 pm
San Lumen wrote:Catherine the Great. If Russia was still a monarchy it would be a lot better off. The Anti Gay law would have probably never passed.
by United Marxist Nations » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:34 pm
Anglo-California wrote:Catherine had a nice rack according to Civilization Revolution.
The Kievan People wrote: United Marxist Nations: A prayer for every soul, a plan for every economy and a waifu for every man. Solid.
St. John Chrysostom wrote:A comprehended God is no God.
by United States Kingdom » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:35 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:48 am
by Old Tyrannia » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:04 am
Lyttenburg wrote:San Lumen wrote:Catherine the Great. If Russia was still a monarchy it would be a lot better off. The Anti Gay law would have probably never passed.
Because gay rights are more important then universal literacy, improved healthcare, industrialization, space program, free health care and education, accessible housing, improved roads, abolishon of priveleges, etc, etc, etc? Glad to see that Westernes can set their priorities straight.
by The Sanguinian Islands » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:54 am
Old Tyrannia wrote:Lyttenburg wrote:
Because gay rights are more important then universal literacy, improved healthcare, industrialization, space program, free health care and education, accessible housing, improved roads, abolishon of priveleges, etc, etc, etc? Glad to see that Westernes can set their priorities straight.
None of those things required the Revolution to occur. Russia's literacy rate was already rising prior to Nicholas II's deposition, and the industrialisation that the USSR is so often praised for had already began under the Tsars. Free healthcare didn't exist in most of the world at the time, and space travel would have seemed impossibly futuristic and far off in the 1910s. There is no reason why Imperial Russia, had it survived the First World War, couldn't have gone on to accomplish all of those things, except perhaps "abolishion [sic] of privilege" which I assume is a snipe at the aristocracy.
And San Lumen isn't entirely wrong- the Imperial Government was quite tolerant of homosexuality, although male-male sodomy was technically illegal and the Imperial position of tolerance didn't quite filter down to the general population. Catherine the Great, as it happens, was an advocate of "enlightened absolutism" and homosexuality was legal under her rule, though sodomy was forbidden within the military from Peter the Great's reign onwards.
by Roski » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:13 am
Lyttenburg wrote:San Lumen wrote:Catherine the Great. If Russia was still a monarchy it would be a lot better off. The Anti Gay law would have probably never passed.
Because gay rights are more important then universal literacy, improved healthcare, industrialization, space program, free health care and education, accessible housing, improved roads, abolition of privileges, etc, etc, etc? Glad to see that Westernes can set their priorities straight.
by Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:17 am
by Bolnoa » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:18 am
by Austinarya » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:21 am
by Roski » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:21 am
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:Oh, here we go with the Vladimir Putin supporters...
But, to answer the question, it was the one that created the dissolution of the Soviet Union. I think he saved the World with that action.
by Old Tyrannia » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:37 am
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:None of those things required the Revolution to occur. Russia's literacy rate was already rising prior to Nicholas II's deposition, and the industrialisation that the USSR is so often praised for had already began under the Tsars. Free healthcare didn't exist in most of the world at the time, and space travel would have seemed impossibly futuristic and far off in the 1910s. There is no reason why Imperial Russia, had it survived the First World War, couldn't have gone on to accomplish all of those things, except perhaps "abolishion [sic] of privilege" which I assume is a snipe at the aristocracy.
And San Lumen isn't entirely wrong- the Imperial Government was quite tolerant of homosexuality, although male-male sodomy was technically illegal and the Imperial position of tolerance didn't quite filter down to the general population. Catherine the Great, as it happens, was an advocate of "enlightened absolutism" and homosexuality was legal under her rule, though sodomy was forbidden within the military from Peter the Great's reign onwards.
BUT WHY DOES IT MATTER?
Without Soviets I would not be studying in America, I would be farming potatoes and would have had 5 kids by now
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