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Who is the greatest Russian leader in history

Peter The Great
73
28%
Empress Elisabeth I
2
1%
Catherine The Great
32
12%
Emperor Alexander I
1
0%
Emperor Alexander II The Liberator
6
2%
Vladimir Lenin
38
15%
Josef Stalin
23
9%
Mikhail Gorbachev
36
14%
Vladimir Putin
28
11%
Another ruler that is not named
20
8%
 
Total votes : 259

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Vetalia
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Postby Vetalia » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:05 pm

No love for Khrushchev... :(
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:06 pm

Peter the Great, he modernized Russia and made it an empire.
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Postby Anglo-California » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:09 pm

Catherine had a nice rack according to Civilization Revolution.
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Postby Faustin Land » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:16 pm

Abraham Lincoln. Oh wait, wrong country.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:18 pm

Vetalia wrote:No love for Khrushchev... :(

Hindsight and the fact that the Aral Sea is basically gone tends to cast a poor light on his "lets grow cotton and wheat in central asia" policy.
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:28 pm

I'm staring to realize how shitty and shitter Russia has always been, and it's leaders are another example.
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:30 pm

Peter would be it.
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Postby Maldovania » Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:50 pm

Pandeeria wrote:I'm staring to realize how shitty and shitter Russia has always been, and it's leaders are another example.


And here we have another person that known nothing about Russia.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:28 pm

Catherine the Great. If Russia was still a monarchy it would be a lot better off. The Anti Gay law would have probably never passed.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:34 pm

I'm a big Ivan the Terrible fan, though Khrushchev is my favorite Russian (though in his case Soviet) leader.
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Postby Lyttenburg » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:Catherine the Great. If Russia was still a monarchy it would be a lot better off. The Anti Gay law would have probably never passed.


Because gay rights are more important then universal literacy, improved healthcare, industrialization, space program, free health care and education, accessible housing, improved roads, abolition of privileges, etc, etc, etc? Glad to see that Westernes can set their priorities straight.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:34 pm

Anglo-California wrote:Catherine had a nice rack according to Civilization Revolution.

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Postby United States Kingdom » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:35 pm


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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:36 pm

For me it's a tie between Peter the Great and Georgy Yevgenyevich Lvov.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:44 am

Peter the Great in my opinion.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:48 am

Putin. He's been doing a great job with the Russian economy, is making Russia strong again, and seems to be very skilled at real politics and foreign relations.
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Postby Luremurg » Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:53 am

Vladimir Putin

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:04 am

Lyttenburg wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Catherine the Great. If Russia was still a monarchy it would be a lot better off. The Anti Gay law would have probably never passed.


Because gay rights are more important then universal literacy, improved healthcare, industrialization, space program, free health care and education, accessible housing, improved roads, abolishon of priveleges, etc, etc, etc? Glad to see that Westernes can set their priorities straight.

None of those things required the Revolution to occur. Russia's literacy rate was already rising prior to Nicholas II's deposition, and the industrialisation that the USSR is so often praised for had already began under the Tsars. Free healthcare didn't exist in most of the world at the time, and space travel would have seemed impossibly futuristic and far off in the 1910s. There is no reason why Imperial Russia, had it survived the First World War, couldn't have gone on to accomplish all of those things, except perhaps "abolishion [sic] of privilege" which I assume is a snipe at the aristocracy.

And San Lumen isn't entirely wrong- the Imperial Government was quite tolerant of homosexuality, although male-male sodomy was technically illegal and the Imperial position of tolerance didn't quite filter down to the general population. Catherine the Great, as it happens, was an advocate of "enlightened absolutism" and homosexuality was legal under her rule, though sodomy was forbidden within the military from Peter the Great's reign onwards.
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Postby The Sanguinian Islands » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:54 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Lyttenburg wrote:
Because gay rights are more important then universal literacy, improved healthcare, industrialization, space program, free health care and education, accessible housing, improved roads, abolishon of priveleges, etc, etc, etc? Glad to see that Westernes can set their priorities straight.

None of those things required the Revolution to occur. Russia's literacy rate was already rising prior to Nicholas II's deposition, and the industrialisation that the USSR is so often praised for had already began under the Tsars. Free healthcare didn't exist in most of the world at the time, and space travel would have seemed impossibly futuristic and far off in the 1910s. There is no reason why Imperial Russia, had it survived the First World War, couldn't have gone on to accomplish all of those things, except perhaps "abolishion [sic] of privilege" which I assume is a snipe at the aristocracy.

And San Lumen isn't entirely wrong- the Imperial Government was quite tolerant of homosexuality, although male-male sodomy was technically illegal and the Imperial position of tolerance didn't quite filter down to the general population. Catherine the Great, as it happens, was an advocate of "enlightened absolutism" and homosexuality was legal under her rule, though sodomy was forbidden within the military from Peter the Great's reign onwards.

BUT WHY DOES IT MATTER?

Without Soviets I would not be studying in America, I would be farming potatoes and would have had 5 kids by now
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Postby Roski » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:13 am

Lyttenburg wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Catherine the Great. If Russia was still a monarchy it would be a lot better off. The Anti Gay law would have probably never passed.


Because gay rights are more important then universal literacy, improved healthcare, industrialization, space program, free health care and education, accessible housing, improved roads, abolition of privileges, etc, etc, etc? Glad to see that Westernes can set their priorities straight.


Lyttens got a point.
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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:17 am

Oh, here we go with the Vladimir Putin supporters...

But, to answer the question, it was the one that created the dissolution of the Soviet Union. I think he saved the World with that action.

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Postby Bolnoa » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:18 am

Khrushchev is always the best in my opinion.
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Postby Austinarya » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:21 am

Vladimir Putin, Russia was a powerful country before it was ruined by those Communists, Putin is making it great again

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Postby Roski » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:21 am

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:Oh, here we go with the Vladimir Putin supporters...

But, to answer the question, it was the one that created the dissolution of the Soviet Union. I think he saved the World with that action.


Yes, the guy who spun Russia into major economic issues and believed the SDI would be a thing is the best thing for Russia :roll:
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:37 am

The Sanguinian Islands wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:None of those things required the Revolution to occur. Russia's literacy rate was already rising prior to Nicholas II's deposition, and the industrialisation that the USSR is so often praised for had already began under the Tsars. Free healthcare didn't exist in most of the world at the time, and space travel would have seemed impossibly futuristic and far off in the 1910s. There is no reason why Imperial Russia, had it survived the First World War, couldn't have gone on to accomplish all of those things, except perhaps "abolishion [sic] of privilege" which I assume is a snipe at the aristocracy.

And San Lumen isn't entirely wrong- the Imperial Government was quite tolerant of homosexuality, although male-male sodomy was technically illegal and the Imperial position of tolerance didn't quite filter down to the general population. Catherine the Great, as it happens, was an advocate of "enlightened absolutism" and homosexuality was legal under her rule, though sodomy was forbidden within the military from Peter the Great's reign onwards.

BUT WHY DOES IT MATTER?

Without Soviets I would not be studying in America, I would be farming potatoes and would have had 5 kids by now

1) I'm pretty sure that not being sent to the gulags to freeze to death because you're gay is pretty important to, you know, gay people.
2) I'm guessing from your second comment that you never actually bothered to read my post in full before replying to it.
3) What, exactly, is wrong with farming potatoes?
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