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Postby The House of Petain » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:42 pm

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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:45 pm

First of all, the US spends a ton of money already on Liberia, and second of all, I thought we were done with colonialism (this isn't even neocolonialism, it's downright colonialist annexation). Besides, I don't think Liberians would be happy with the US invading their country.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:44 pm

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It matters what they think because this dude is proposing an idiotic idea.

Why are you such an ass? I'm thirteen years old, and I am trying to help people that are suffering. You can just say that my ideas, although with good intent, are flawed, instead of saying that my ideas are idiotic.

We don't call people names here. Knock it off.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:39 pm

OP were this at all feasible (and what Liberians wanted) I would wish you luck. But its not. Sorry darling.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:15 pm

Leaving aside the specific proposal in the OP (which has been addressed more than sufficiently by now), there's another, more general point to be made here:

Unless you are one of the luckiest people in history and just happen to find yourself in the right place at the right time, you cannot change the world by yourself. You cannot. Do not try. It will only end in disappointment.

However, political movements CAN change the world, and you CAN make a contribution to such a movement. So figure out what your political values are, choose a political ideology to support, and go join the political party/organization/group that best represents that ideology in your area.

You cannot change the world by yourself. But you can change it if you've got a few thousand comrades standing with you. So go find them.
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Postby Anglo-California » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:17 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:Leaving aside the specific proposal in the OP (which has been addressed more than sufficiently by now), there's another, more general point to be made here:

Unless you are one of the luckiest people in history and just happen to find yourself in the right place at the right time, you cannot change the world by yourself. You cannot. Do not try. It will only end in disappointment.

However, political movements CAN change the world, and you CAN make a contribution to such a movement. So figure out what your political values are, choose a political ideology to support, and go join the political party/organization/group that best represents that ideology in your area.

You cannot change the world by yourself. But you can change it if you've got a few thousand comrades standing with you. So go find them.


Oh yeah I've just got tons of armed followers right now. :roll:
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Postby The Stalker » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:41 am

Anglo-California wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Leaving aside the specific proposal in the OP (which has been addressed more than sufficiently by now), there's another, more general point to be made here:

Unless you are one of the luckiest people in history and just happen to find yourself in the right place at the right time, you cannot change the world by yourself. You cannot. Do not try. It will only end in disappointment.

However, political movements CAN change the world, and you CAN make a contribution to such a movement. So figure out what your political values are, choose a political ideology to support, and go join the political party/organization/group that best represents that ideology in your area.

You cannot change the world by yourself. But you can change it if you've got a few thousand comrades standing with you. So go find them.


Oh yeah I've just got tons of armed followers right now. :roll:


I personally recommend cult followers, a little charisma and LSD in the water goes a long way. Think of it, Cult leader of Liberia, the power you'd have to make the country a better place and it's people happy, or to exploit for fun. Most likely the worlds gonna beat the cheerful idealism you hold out of you anyway and one day you'll wake up a terrible cynic like the rest of us. When that day comes I suggest you're a cult leader. ;)
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Postby Kingston-Atlantis » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:52 am

Well, I must say... this is pretty well written for a thirteen year-old... (I too, am 13, but I live... in Asia, a small city-state). But I highly doubt that you will have a chance to actually make anything happen. According to your logic, the US can come into Cambodia, "annex" it, and develop it, and at the same time remove communism from Southeast Asia. But they aren't doing that, and for a reason.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:48 am

Uh, no. It's well written sure, but that doesn't change the fact that the proposal it is written around is weak. The US can't go around annexing the poorer places of the earth and that will somehow magically fix it's problems. Your motive is admirable but something like this is never going to happen.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:07 am

Torisakia wrote:Teens have tried to change the world before. Keyword: tried

And why is Liberia more important than the other poor countries around the world? :eyebrow:

Because of the fact we made it the special snowflake for telling freed slaves to get the fuck out because people were assholish enslaving cunts back then (as they do today).
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Postby The greater holy roman empire » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:09 am

Annex NOW!! :clap:

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Postby Risottia » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:56 am

Port of Columbia wrote:...the US should make an example of Africa's potential and the generosity of the American people. I am asking for a grant, amassed to the amount of one billion dollars. This one billion dollars will be put towards "annexing" the nation of Liberia.


Generosity => let's annex Liberia as a colony.

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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:34 am

The greater holy roman empire wrote:Annex NOW!! :clap:

No.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:41 am

So what do you want us to do take it over?

Some people want the US to the the world police. Others don't. The government will never not take shit.

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Postby The Sotoan Union » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:42 am

Constantinopolis wrote:Leaving aside the specific proposal in the OP (which has been addressed more than sufficiently by now), there's another, more general point to be made here:

Unless you are one of the luckiest people in history and just happen to find yourself in the right place at the right time, you cannot change the world by yourself. You cannot. Do not try. It will only end in disappointment.

However, political movements CAN change the world, and you CAN make a contribution to such a movement. So figure out what your political values are, choose a political ideology to support, and go join the political party/organization/group that best represents that ideology in your area.

You cannot change the world by yourself. But you can change it if you've got a few thousand comrades standing with you. So go find them.

That's really just a response to the title, and has little to do with the OP. The mods generally aren't fans of these posts, largely because they don't contribute to the discussion the OP wants.

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Postby Berdanvia » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:05 am

Goob job with your letter, but you know what's gunna happen once it gets to the government. Goes straight in the trash. Do you really think the government reads every single letter every citizen in the US sends to them? HELL NAH!!! Your sweet sweet dreams of a better Liberia are obliterated because the US frankly only cares about our nation and no other.

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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:06 am

Berdanvia wrote:Goob job with your letter, but you know what's gunna happen once it gets to the government. Goes straight in the trash. Do you really think the government reads every single letter every citizen in the US sends to them? HELL NAH!!! Your sweet sweet dreams of a better Liberia are obliterated because the US frankly only cares about our nation and no other.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:31 am

Berdanvia wrote:Goob job with your letter, but you know what's gunna happen once it gets to the government. Goes straight in the trash. Do you really think the government reads every single letter every citizen in the US sends to them? HELL NAH!!! Your sweet sweet dreams of a better Liberia are obliterated because the US frankly only cares about our nation and no other.

Yes, that is the reason. And it is not like the US has gone into Europe on two separate occasions, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan either. All poppycock.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:38 am

Berdanvia wrote:Goob job with your letter, but you know what's gunna happen once it gets to the government. Goes straight in the trash. Do you really think the government reads every single letter every citizen in the US sends to them? HELL NAH!!! Your sweet sweet dreams of a better Liberia are obliterated because the US frankly only cares about our nation and no other.

Except for all the Ebola relief the US is providing in Liberia. Not like that has been happening or anything.

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Postby Pan-America under the United States » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:46 pm

Berdanvia wrote:because the US frankly only cares about our nation and no other.

It's not like we gave away 50 billion in foreign aid back in 2013 or anything.
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Postby Kelinfort » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:47 pm

There are bad ideas and there are terrible ideas. And then there's this.

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Postby Pan-America under the United States » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:50 pm

Kelinfort wrote:There are bad ideas and there are terrible ideas. And then there's this.

Ouch.

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Postby United States Kingdom » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:51 pm

Kelinfort wrote:There are bad ideas and there are terrible ideas. And then there's this.


The truth's the truth.

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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:00 pm

Pan-America under the United States wrote:
Berdanvia wrote:because the US frankly only cares about our nation and no other.

It's not like we gave away 50 billion in foreign aid back in 2013 or anything.
Well, actually, that's nothing compared to the rest of our spending. "If the whole US economy was represented by a dollar, our spending on foreign aid would equal .08% of our total spending. You couldn't cut a penny and see that part" - Bill Nye
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Postby Pan-America under the United States » Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:03 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Pan-America under the United States wrote:It's not like we gave away 50 billion in foreign aid back in 2013 or anything.
Well, actually, that's nothing compared to the rest of our spending. "If the whole US economy was represented by a dollar, our spending on foreign aid would equal .08% of our total spending. You couldn't cut a penny and see that part" - Bill Nye

So, what exactly does that have to do with Americans caring about other countries? If we didn't care about other nations, we wouldn't give other countries anything. Especially impoverished nations.

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