Kubra wrote:Yeah, the collapse of the secound international left everyone too far from the SFSR shit out of luck.Olerand wrote:Oh...Then there would be no chance for a Communist Revolution in 1919 in France. Communism wasn't really a thing then, only revolutionary Socialism was relevant. Depending on the circumstances, like if Jean Jaurès had survived, or who was leading the revolution or whatnot, then maybe I could be neutral to a revolutionary socialist movement.
Also, the PCF is not the ultra-left or extreme-left in France. It is the radical left. Left-wing, but mainstream enough to have been in governments and be considered a "governmental party". The Trotskyists of the Worker's Struggle and the New Anti-Capitalist Party are the ultra-left.
And why would it be a benefit to the other ultra-lefts if the French ultra-left declines? Our Communists participated in government, are the progenitors of our Welfare State, and are much more credible than other ultra-lefts.
Jesus man I've been into this shit for a few years and I don't see many people having a specific criterion for what they'll call ultra and what they'll call radical, but that's probably a political difference between anglos and the french. radical and ultra in the anglo world generally denotes the sects outside of parliamentary politics, while the left encompasses all these little hanger-on parties attached to labour/the democratic party/NDP/take your pick, ain't no popular fronts here. If we take the french ultra-left to mean its anti-parliamentarian sects, we're left with a gaggle of very angry poets running backwater general stores. And now you tell me it's not them declining? I'm disappointed, man.
In terms of politics the french left isn't particularly unique, bruh. Most European communist parties did and do everything you've listed. But that said, I don't know what it will mean for the french radical left (as you've put it) to decline.
I didn't decide the difference between the extreme left, or ultra-left, and the radical left. That is just French political discourse.
Our radical left participates in government, the ultra-left refuses to govern the nation under a capitalist system.
As for other communist parties, actually they did no such thing. Our PCF is unique in its mainstream aspects, and the fact that they led France in the immediate years after WWII, before being ousted by a coalition of Christian Democrats-Socialists-Centrists. No other communist party in Western Europe, with the exception of the Italian Communist Party, had as much influence or credibility as the French Communist Party.
And both the ultra-left, the radical left, and the mainstream left are all in decline in France today. The Socialist Party's disastrous management of the country over the last two years has decimated the left, to the benefit of the extreme-right.