Does God Exist?

[Benuty]

Bullshit.

The Mother of Existence wants a word with you Hellspawn (ie the comic character if you do not know).

Well, sorry to say this but...

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Basically its a comic where God, and Satan are bitter siblings fighting over a planet the actual maker of all existence (aka their mother) gave them.

Of-course thats in the background since the comic is about a damned soul who has returned to earth to serve out his time before returning as an officer in Hell's legions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spawn_(comics)

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Well, sorry to say this but...

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Basically its a comic where God, and Satan are bitter siblings fighting over a planet the actual maker of all existence (aka their mother) gave them.

Of-course thats in the background since the comic is about a damned soul who has returned to earth to serve out his time before returning as an officer in Hell's legions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spawn_(comics)

Oh, see Benuty, thats called proper context.

Now that I think about it, from just that description that would make a hilarious TV show.

[Neutraligon]

Well, sorry to say this but...

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Basically its a comic where God, and Satan are bitter siblings fighting over a planet the actual maker of all existence (aka their mother) gave them.

Of-course thats in the background since the comic is about a damned soul who has returned to earth to serve out his time before returning as an officer in Hell's legions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spawn_(comics)

Please tell me there is a show based on this.

[The Stalker]

I've spoken to god, she exists. End of story.

Consulting one's pineal glad usually helps finding her.

Indeed! Praise Eris the one true Goddess!

[Conscentia]

Consulting one's pineal glad usually helps finding her.

Indeed! Praise Eris the one true Goddess!

Blasphemy! Heresy!

[Benuty]

Indeed! Praise Eris the one true Goddess!

Blasphemy! Heresy!

Says the one who worships the mortal god spaghetti Jesus.

[Sociobiology]

It contradicts the idea that god is omnipotent if he can't even stop himself from performing sacrificial rituals. Also, it disgusting this guy thinks it beautiful to sacrifice one person for the crimes of another.

Well, arguably, it is sacrificing one's own self for one's own crime...
And not really a sacrifice at all since he didn't stay dead...

"Despite being omnipotent, the only solution for me setting it illegal that you'd fail is for me to arrange for my own death, which unlike for you, will only last 3 days."

sounds like something a sadomasochist would come up with.

[Benuty]

Well, arguably, it is sacrificing one's own self for one's own crime...
And not really a sacrifice at all since he didn't stay dead...

"Despite being omnipotent, the only solution for me setting it illegal that you'd fail is for me to arrange for my own death, which unlike for you, will only last 3 days."

sounds like something a sadomasochist would come up with.

Well not really in the first gospel (before alteration) Jesus stayed dead.

[Conscentia]

Blasphemy! Heresy!

Says the one who worships the mortal god spaghetti Jesus.

Lies! Slander!
I worship no such thing.

[Neutraligon]

It contradicts the idea that god is omnipotent if he can't even stop himself from performing sacrificial rituals. Also, it disgusting this guy thinks it beautiful to sacrifice one person for the crimes of another.

Well, arguably, it is sacrificing one's own self for one's own crime...
And not really a sacrifice at all since he didn't stay dead...

"Despite being omnipotent, the only solution for me setting it illegal that you'd fail is for me to arrange for my own death, which unlike for you, will only last 3 days."

Here's the thing, supposedly Jesus died for our sins, so why do we still sin? I mean shouldn't we have already been forgiven. If it really were a selfless act (I am ignoring the scapegoat thing for a second) God would not need us to recognize his son, Jesus's act would have already ensured our forgiveness, regardless of future actions.

[Jute]

Well, arguably, it is sacrificing one's own self for one's own crime...
And not really a sacrifice at all since he didn't stay dead...

"Despite being omnipotent, the only solution for me setting it illegal that you'd fail is for me to arrange for my own death, which unlike for you, will only last 3 days."

Here's the thing, supposedly Jesus died for our sins, so why do we still sin? I mean shouldn't we have already been forgiven. If it really were a selfless act (I am ignoring the scapegoat thing for a second) God would not need us to recognize his son, Jesus's act would have already ensured our forgiveness, regardless of future actions.

Well, as far as I understand it you are already forgiven. I guess it's asking for acknowledgment and thankfulness for the deed of Jesus? I'm not sure, though.

[Frisiiland]

Well, arguably, it is sacrificing one's own self for one's own crime...
And not really a sacrifice at all since he didn't stay dead...

"Despite being omnipotent, the only solution for me setting it illegal that you'd fail is for me to arrange for my own death, which unlike for you, will only last 3 days."

Here's the thing, supposedly Jesus died for our sins, so why do we still sin? I mean shouldn't we have already been forgiven. If it really were a selfless act (I am ignoring the scapegoat thing for a second) God would not need us to recognize his son, Jesus's act would have already ensured our forgiveness, regardless of future actions.

I let Jesse deal with this

[Neutraligon]

Here's the thing, supposedly Jesus died for our sins, so why do we still sin? I mean shouldn't we have already been forgiven. If it really were a selfless act (I am ignoring the scapegoat thing for a second) God would not need us to recognize his son, Jesus's act would have already ensured our forgiveness, regardless of future actions.

I let Jesse deal with this

Too long, mind shortening it and writing it here.

[Creepoc Infinite]

Here's the thing, supposedly Jesus died for our sins, so why do we still sin? I mean shouldn't we have already been forgiven. If it really were a selfless act (I am ignoring the scapegoat thing for a second) God would not need us to recognize his son, Jesus's act would have already ensured our forgiveness, regardless of future actions.

I let Jesse deal with this

Become a christian? pssh why?

[Neutraligon]

Here's the thing, supposedly Jesus died for our sins, so why do we still sin? I mean shouldn't we have already been forgiven. If it really were a selfless act (I am ignoring the scapegoat thing for a second) God would not need us to recognize his son, Jesus's act would have already ensured our forgiveness, regardless of future actions.

Well, as far as I understand it you are already forgiven. I guess it's asking for acknowledgment and thankfulness for the deed of Jesus? I'm not sure, though.

Then it sounds to me like it isn't a selfless act. it is asking for payment of a kind and giving punishment should said payment not be forthcoming. Jesus sacrificed himself for us, but there is a catch.

[Benuty]

Well, as far as I understand it you are already forgiven. I guess it's asking for acknowledgment and thankfulness for the deed of Jesus? I'm not sure, though.

Then it sounds to me like it isn't a selfless act. it is asking for payment of a kind and giving punishment should said payment not be forthcoming. Jesus sacrificed himself for us, but there is a catch.

That is the whole point of Original Sin.

[Benuty]

Says the one who worships the mortal god spaghetti Jesus.

Lies! Slander!
I worship no such thing.

So you worship the great uncircumcised one?
.

[Jute]

Well, as far as I understand it you are already forgiven. I guess it's asking for acknowledgment and thankfulness for the deed of Jesus? I'm not sure, though.

Then it sounds to me like it isn't a selfless act. it is asking for payment of a kind and giving punishment should said payment not be forthcoming. Jesus sacrificed himself for us, but there is a catch.

Where's the catch? It's just acknowledging the deed, and not even saying "you must". You don't have to do even that, and it would still be valid.

[The Rich Port]

Then it sounds to me like it isn't a selfless act. it is asking for payment of a kind and giving punishment should said payment not be forthcoming. Jesus sacrificed himself for us, but there is a catch.

That is the whole point of Original Sin.

Which makes no sense either way because the Bible alternates on whether sin can be passed down.

In goddamn Deuteronomy alone it contradicts itself by saying "You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, and on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me," in one verse (I think it was 5:6) and then later saying "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin."

[Neutraligon]

Then it sounds to me like it isn't a selfless act. it is asking for payment of a kind and giving punishment should said payment not be forthcoming. Jesus sacrificed himself for us, but there is a catch.

That is the whole point of Original Sin.

What is? Supposedly god committed the selfless act in order to forgive us for our "ancestors" actions in which they did the terrible deed of being tricked into doing something. I don't know about you, but when I forgive someone, I do so without strings attached, which god is apparently not doing here.

[Benuty]

That is the whole point of Original Sin.

What is? Supposedly god committed the selfless act in order to forgive us for our "ancestors" actions in which they did the terrible deed of being tricked into doing something. I don't know about you, but when I forgive someone, I do so without strings attached, which god is apparently not doing here.

Nope.

The Christian Deity had a bastard child, and said bastard child got crucified, and supposedly this human sacrifice was so abhorrent it served as a final physical payment for sin caused by the temptation of two idiots in a garden ergo original sin.

Spiritual payment on the other hand is still payable in the form of a carrot "accepting jesus" to avoid the stick (a negative afterlife).

[Frisiiland]

I let Jesse deal with this

Too long, mind shortening it and writing it here.

What he says was that Jesus said only those that do the will of the Father go to heaven and Paul clearly teaches that evil works lead to hell in the 1 corinthians 6. Matthew 5:17-20 demands good works and righteousness.

[Neutraligon]

What is? Supposedly god committed the selfless act in order to forgive us for our "ancestors" actions in which they did the terrible deed of being tricked into doing something. I don't know about you, but when I forgive someone, I do so without strings attached, which god is apparently not doing here.

Nope.

The Christian Deity had a bastard child, and said bastard child got crucified, and supposedly this human sacrifice was so abhorrent it served as a final physical payment for sin caused by the temptation of two idiots in a garden ergo original sin.

Spiritual payment on the other hand is still payable in the form of a carrot "accepting jesus" to avoid the stick (a negative afterlife).

If it was the final physical payment then why do women still feel birthing pains. And supposedly god planned for his child/himself to be crucified for the purpose of said forgiveness.

[Neutraligon]

Too long, mind shortening it and writing it here.

What he says was that Jesus said only those that do the will of the Father go to heaven and Paul clearly teaches that evil works lead to hell in the corinthians. Matthew 5:17-20 demands good works and righteousness.

Except that unless baptized people are still considered sinners, or is baptism pointless now?

[Benuty]

Nope.

The Christian Deity had a bastard child, and said bastard child got crucified, and supposedly this human sacrifice was so abhorrent it served as a final physical payment for sin caused by the temptation of two idiots in a garden ergo original sin.

Spiritual payment on the other hand is still payable in the form of a carrot "accepting jesus" to avoid the stick (a negative afterlife).

If it was the final physical payment then why do women still feel birthing pains. And supposedly god planned for his child/himself to be crucified for the purpose of said forgiveness.

1) They said "we'll clear you of your sins" not "oh by the way that includes the bitchslaps made against Adam, and Eve in the Garden".

2) Well the Christian deity has a bit of quandary because of just how genocidal the Book of Revelations is.
So much for that forgiveness.