Communists and Socialists, what do you think of homosexuals?

[Kumuri]

I agree with 4years.

[Cymbru]

Considering I am Bisexual, I am in favor of gay rights and equal marriage rights

Same, it's a 'no-brainer'.

Isn't socialism standing up for the minorities abused and ignored by bourgeois society such as LGBTQs etc?

Socialism aside, to anyone under the age of 40 I think homosexuality isn't even up for discussion, it's apart of nature and apart of society. If you have a negative perception of it, it's your problem, not a problem with the phenomenon itself...

[Calisu]

>itt people think an economic system has anything to do with homosexuals.
I'm a gay communist.

[Obeyistan]

I'm not a socialist or a communist, but I used to be one on the libertarian/anarchist side. Back then I was pro-LGBTQIA* and still am.

[Alexzanabbgggggg]

I'm a Marxist-Leninist, I support LGBT rights, on the basis that what people do in their own bedrooms doesn't affect anything on economics.

Me to Comrade

[The New Sea Territory]

I'm an economically fluid anarchist, so I will chime in.

Homophobia is homophobia, regardless of what ideologies the homophobe adheres to.

[Grenartia]

Social Democrat here. Also a pansexual androgyne. I fail to see any reason why LGBT people don't deserve equal rights.

[Halania]

Let them live, and defend them from the bad people.

[Tierra Prime]

A worker is a worker regardless of their sexuality, race, or gender.

[Mereon]

I'm strongly pro LGBTQWERTYUIOP rights.

[Socialist Tera]

Homosexuality is a natural thing, it is ok. I am pro LGBT rights.

[Anollasia]

They're humans. They deserve to love and be loved too.

[Risottia]

what is your opinion of homosexuality and gay rights?

My opinion of homosexuality: a sexual preference which is exactly as much as legitimate as heterosexuality.

My opinion of gay rights: it's a shame that we still have to differentiate between "human rights" and "gay rights". People shouldn't have less rights (including the right to marry their beloved partner) because of their legitimate sexual preferences.

[Risottia]

I'm a gay communist.

Now, if only you were also a Jew with Romani and Slavic ancestry... we'd see some Nazi head asplode just at the idea.

[Olerand]

The USSR considered all liberation movements from the West; including LGBT rights, women's rights etc.; as bourgeois decadence.
Socially, the USSR was very conservative.

To be expected, really, considering that ideology alone would not reform centuries of homophobia in Russian culture.

As for me, as a person who has read Marx and agree with his analysis(does that make me a Marxist?), and a social-democrat, I am fully in favor of gay rights. Liberation need not only be for the proletariat. We can liberate the proletariat, and women, and homosexuals etc. etc.

The more freedom and equality available for all, the better.

[Syonanto]

Sexuality is a private matter, not a political one, except insofar as it has a bearing on public health. It's none of my concern what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms.

[Lyttenburg]

The USSR considered all liberation movements from the West; including LGBT rights, women's rights etc.; as bourgeois decadence.
Socially, the USSR was very conservative.

To be expected, really, considering that ideology alone would not reform centuries of homophobia in Russian culture.

As for me, as a person who has read Marx and agree with his analysis(does that make me a Marxist?), and a social-democrat, I am fully in favor of gay rights. Liberation need not only be for the proletariat. We can liberate the proletariat, and women, and homosexuals etc. etc.

The more freedom and equality available for all, the better.

1) In Russia (yes, Russia) women got voting rights April 15 in 1917. soon after the February Revolution, which, by the way, resulted in the election of first women deputies in Vologda's city council. October Revolution and Constitution of 1918 just verified voting equality of men and women.

So, women in Russia/Soviet Union got univerasl voting rights ealrier then wpmen in France, GB, Bulgaria, Germany, Greece, Spain, Switzerland (only adopted it in 1971) and USA.

So, stop this nonsense about "soviets opressing women rights groups" - the government itself were granting all that.

2) (Sigh)... Centuries? Really? Care to prove your point or, what, you expect people to beleive your claims 'cause "Russia is so horrrrrrile, it must be true!"?

[Vicious Debaters]

Socialist here, I think homosexuals are normal people. Let them live as they choose.

Same with with trans-folk and the nongenderbinary, although my opinion on the use of surgery and hormone therapy is mixed.

[Calisu]

I'm a gay communist.

Now, if only you were also a Jew with Romani and Slavic ancestry... we'd see some Nazi head asplode just at the idea.

I'm actually black, so yeah. kaboom.

[Threlizdun]

As 4years has stated, support for communism and support for the equality of the LGBTQ community are inseparable.

[Olerand]

The USSR considered all liberation movements from the West; including LGBT rights, women's rights etc.; as bourgeois decadence.
Socially, the USSR was very conservative.

To be expected, really, considering that ideology alone would not reform centuries of homophobia in Russian culture.

As for me, as a person who has read Marx and agree with his analysis(does that make me a Marxist?), and a social-democrat, I am fully in favor of gay rights. Liberation need not only be for the proletariat. We can liberate the proletariat, and women, and homosexuals etc. etc.

The more freedom and equality available for all, the better.

1) In Russia (yes, Russia) women got voting rights April 15 in 1917. soon after the February Revolution, which, by the way, resulted in the election of first women deputies in Vologda's city council. October Revolution and Constitution of 1918 just verified voting equality of men and women.

So, women in Russia/Soviet Union got univerasl voting rights ealrier then wpmen in France, GB, Bulgaria, Germany, Greece, Spain, Switzerland (only adopted it in 1971) and USA.

So, stop this nonsense about "soviets opressing women rights groups" - the government itself were granting all that.

2) (Sigh)... Centuries? Really? Care to prove your point or, what, you expect people to beleive your claims 'cause "Russia is so horrrrrrile, it must be true!"?

1) I was referring to the second wave of feminism. Post WWII, the social and cultural wave, not the original first and political wave.
The USSR rejected women's social and sexual liberation; not their original political liberation.
2) All of Europe had centuries of homophobia ingrained in them. All.
However, the West went through the second wave of feminism, and the cultural and sexual revolutions of 1968. The USSR and the Eastern Bloc did not.

[Lyttenburg]

1) I was referring to the second wave of feminism. Post WWII, the social and cultural wave, not the original first and political wave.
The USSR rejected women's social and sexual liberation; not their original political liberation.

Care to elaborate about this "women's social and sexual liberation", which were, supposedly, denied to the Soviet women.

[4years]

1) I was referring to the second wave of feminism. Post WWII, the social and cultural wave, not the original first and political wave.
The USSR rejected women's social and sexual liberation; not their original political liberation.

Care to elaborate about this "women's social and sexual liberation", which were, supposedly, denied to the Soviet women.

The easy example would be Stalin's illegalization of abortion and homosexual activity, both of which were originally legalized under Lenin. Remember Soltz's formulation that women had no right to decline the (alleged) joys of motherhood? That kind of thing was rampant in the Stalinist bureaucracy from the 1930s onward.

[Lindhartia]

<- socialist here
they should have the same rights as any other human.

[District XIV]

<- socialist here
they should have the same rights as any other human.

Dingdingding we have a winner!

But seriously, this^.