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by United Marxist Nations » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:52 pm
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by Dazchan » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:02 pm
Apparatchikstan wrote:I don't know how it works in Canada, but I'm resentful of the public service unions of the US. It's one thing for private employees to collective bargain with private employers, but with public service, the employer never gets a seat at the table.
by Jumalariik » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:04 pm
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by Exxosia » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:12 pm
by The Rich Port » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:12 pm
by The Two Jerseys » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:18 pm
Vladislavija wrote:The Two Jerseys wrote:If the government wants to make education compulsory, then public school teachers should by all means be considered essential personnel and prohibited from striking.
Would you also forbid people who wave lanterns at railway crossings when ramp is broken from striking? After all it is compulsory to stop when train is coming.
by Germanic Imperium » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:20 pm
by Atlanticatia » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:23 pm
Apparatchikstan wrote:Atlanticatia wrote:
Hmm, so people should never have striked for the 8 hour work day, pensions, safe working conditions, and all the other things we enjoy today thanks to the labor movement?
That's fine for the private sector where all parties are represented at the table, but in public service disputes, taxpayers don't get representation at the table. Its a one sided process between various consumers. That's why the US's most progressive president in history (FDR) disagreed with the idea when it was brought up during his administration. The inherent unfairness of the concept unnerved him of all people, but then JFK needed some political capital and poof, one executive order later, and private citizens got their biggest shaft since the 16th amendment.
by Vladislavija » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:51 pm
The Two Jerseys wrote:If the crossing signal is broken and the union is on strike,
- The railroad can assign a non-striking employee to guard the crossing
- The railroad can instruct trains to stop while the brakeman stops traffic
- The railroad can reroute trains so they don't have to pass through that crossing
- The police can stop traffic while the signal is out of order
by KAS SRD » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:54 pm
by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:57 pm
San Lumen wrote:Everyone should have the right to strike. In New York City railroad employees are not allowed to strike and if they do their leaders can be jailed.
by Lavan Tiri » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:58 pm
by Lavan Tiri » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:59 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:Of course, it allows teachers to protest low pay and problems in the education system.
by Neo Industrium » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:02 pm
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Britanania wrote:My Father is a teacher, and also happens to be the Union Rep for his school.
That said, he doesn't always agree with what the Union does. There was a strike last year at a local school district, and the things the parents and teachers did were both abhorrent, so it really depends on the circumstance. It really isn't fair to students when teachers go on strike and learning doesn't get done. On the other hand, teachers should be given fair wages for their work (which often times they do not).
It's tricky, but there are times I think teachers should be able to strike, and other times, they should not. I'm not Canadian, so I'm not to keen with how Unions and stuff are done there, or why those teachers are striking.
There striking because of the current class size and composition.
by Kiribati-Tarawa » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:09 pm
Atlanticatia wrote:Kiribati-Tarawa wrote:Like any group of workers, I do believe teachers should be able to strike. That being said, I do not think that they should strike, and in fact, I am an adamant opponent of most unions, particularly teachers' unions. People need to learn to appreciate their lot, and realise that it's a lot better than what most people in the world have. If you're not ready to give up your dreams of becoming a billionaire, don't become a teacher.
Hmm, so people should never have striked for the 8 hour work day, pensions, safe working conditions, and all the other things we enjoy today thanks to the labor movement?
by Ethel mermania » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:15 pm
The Two Jerseys wrote:Vladislavija wrote:
Would you also forbid people who wave lanterns at railway crossings when ramp is broken from striking? After all it is compulsory to stop when train is coming.
If the crossing signal is broken and the union is on strike,
- The railroad can assign a non-striking employee to guard the crossing
- The railroad can instruct trains to stop while the brakeman stops traffic
- The railroad can reroute trains so they don't have to pass through that crossing
- The police can stop traffic while the signal is out of order
If school teachers are on strike,
- The kids don't go to school till the strike ends
There's ways to work around a railroad strike. Not so with a teachers strike.
by Neo Industrium » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:17 pm
by The Rich Port » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:20 pm
by The Two Jerseys » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:24 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:The Two Jerseys wrote:If the crossing signal is broken and the union is on strike,
- The railroad can assign a non-striking employee to guard the crossing
- The railroad can instruct trains to stop while the brakeman stops traffic
- The railroad can reroute trains so they don't have to pass through that crossing
- The police can stop traffic while the signal is out of order
If school teachers are on strike,
- The kids don't go to school till the strike ends
There's ways to work around a railroad strike. Not so with a teachers strike.
sure there is, just add days to the school year.
by Neo Industrium » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:27 pm
by Ethel mermania » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:31 pm
by Sociobiology » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:56 pm
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