NS September 11th Memorial

[Corumm]

Was 12, watched the news before school. English teacher has us write an essay about how we felt about the whole thing, didn't give a fuck so I had to make it all up.

[Idzequitch]

am i the only person worried that at some point we're going to end up with kids that flat out have never heard of 9/11 and we're going to tell them what happened and they'll be like "oh grandparents and their crazy stories..."

I doubt that will happen. I do think that they'll have the benefit of distance to see how irrelevant it was in the scheme of things and how the reaction to it was more damaging than the event itself.

The wrongful death of innocent people is never irrelevant. I'm not defending the USA's reaction to 9/11, but to say it's irrelevant is absolute bullshit.

[Scomagia]

I doubt that will happen. I do think that they'll have the benefit of distance to see how irrelevant it was in the scheme of things and how the reaction to it was more damaging than the event itself.

The death of innocent people is never irrelevant. I'm not defending the USA's reaction to 9/11, but to say it's irrelevant is absolute bullshit.

In a nation of three hundred million people, three thousand deaths is as close to irrelevant as you can get. The reaction was overkill, the coverage was overkill, and thirteen years later there's no reason to be fucking talking about it.

[Arlenton]

I was in my 1st grade classroom when an announcement was made and we all went into the cafeteria. I remember a teacher was talking in the front but not what she was saying. It's mostly a blur but I think there was a TV in the front with the principal and a bunch of teachers watching it. I really can't remember what I was thinking about it.
Afterwards when I got home I remember it all over the news and media for what seemed like months, I use to watch fear factor and I remember contestants promising to donate to the victims of the tragedy.
I think after this point I started paying a lot more attention to the news and what was going on in the world, a lot more than a normal elementary schooler, since I remember clearly some points about the 2 wars, especially the media going crazy in the 2002-03 lead up to Iraq.

[Ifreann]

The death of innocent people is never irrelevant. I'm not defending the USA's reaction to 9/11, but to say it's irrelevant is absolute bullshit.

In a nation of three hundred million people, three thousand deaths is as close to irrelevant as you can get.

Relevance isn't determined solely by the number of lives lost.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The death of innocent people is never irrelevant. I'm not defending the USA's reaction to 9/11, but to say it's irrelevant is absolute bullshit.

In a nation of three hundred million people, three thousand deaths is as close to irrelevant as you can get.

I think the shock wasn't so much that 3000 people died. It is the fact that two of our important landmarks - namely the WTC and the Pentagon - were aimed at and successfully attacked (there was a hit on the Pentagon). These were big targets that people simply did not expect to be attacked.

That, and well, the images of the event etched into people's brains.

[Idzequitch]

The death of innocent people is never irrelevant. I'm not defending the USA's reaction to 9/11, but to say it's irrelevant is absolute bullshit.

In a nation of three hundred million people, three thousand deaths is as close to irrelevant as you can get.

So the Zimmerman/Martin incident should have received no coverage. Same with the Wilson/Brown case. Same with every damn murder in history. Except wait, that isn't true either. When we start viewing murder as irrelevant, it really shows how far down the toilet society has gone.

[Occupied Deutschland]

The death of innocent people is never irrelevant. I'm not defending the USA's reaction to 9/11, but to say it's irrelevant is absolute bullshit.

In a nation of three hundred million people, three thousand deaths is as close to irrelevant as you can get.

Not really. One death is as close to irrelevant as you can get.
When around three thousand come in the space of a few hours to people no one expects it to in a manner no one expected, it becomes rather relevant. Even more so when such occurs via destruction of national symbols.

Hell, even if no one died, the WTC towers and the Pentagon getting attacked would be relevant.

I was preparing for school when the first plane hit and took the day off, watched news.

[Scomagia]

In a nation of three hundred million people, three thousand deaths is as close to irrelevant as you can get.

So the Zimmerman/Martin incident should have received no coverage. Same with the Wilson/Brown case. Same with every damn murder in history. Except wait, that isn't true either. When we start viewing murder as irrelevant, it really shows how far down the toilet society has gone.

Those incidents didn't deserve nearly as much coverage as they got, either.

[Scomagia]

In a nation of three hundred million people, three thousand deaths is as close to irrelevant as you can get.

I think the shock wasn't so much that 3000 people died. It is the fact that two of our important landmarks - namely the WTC and the Pentagon - were aimed at and successfully attacked (there was a hit on the Pentagon). These were big targets that people simply did not expect to be attacked.

That, and well, the images of the event etched into people's brains.

And I could understand some of the coverage then. But to still be talking about it thirteen years later is a bit much, no?

[Socialist Tera]

9 years old, Sydney at home.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I think the shock wasn't so much that 3000 people died. It is the fact that two of our important landmarks - namely the WTC and the Pentagon - were aimed at and successfully attacked (there was a hit on the Pentagon). These were big targets that people simply did not expect to be attacked.

That, and well, the images of the event etched into people's brains.

And I could understand some of the coverage then. But to still be talking about it thirteen years later is a bit much, no?

Only if you don't believe that 9/11 had a huge impact on our foreign and domestic policy, then yes, it is irrelevant.

[Proskoya]

I think the shock wasn't so much that 3000 people died. It is the fact that two of our important landmarks - namely the WTC and the Pentagon - were aimed at and successfully attacked (there was a hit on the Pentagon). These were big targets that people simply did not expect to be attacked.

That, and well, the images of the event etched into people's brains.

And I could understand some of the coverage then. But to still be talking about it thirteen years later is a bit much, no?

Considering that the main war that it brought on is still going on, I'm actually gonna say no to that.

[-The West Coast-]

the third never made it to its target

1. Tower 1
2. Tower 2
3 pentagon

He's talking about the plane that crash landed in Pennsylvania.

[Idzequitch]

So the Zimmerman/Martin incident should have received no coverage. Same with the Wilson/Brown case. Same with every damn murder in history. Except wait, that isn't true either. When we start viewing murder as irrelevant, it really shows how far down the toilet society has gone.

Those incidents didn't deserve nearly as much coverage as they got, either.

People are important. On 9/11, the world was robbed of 3,000 people who did not deserve to die. To dismiss this as irrelevant, is unbelievably disrespectful to these innocent lives. Small=/= irrelevant. And it wasn't even that small.

[Scomagia]

And I could understand some of the coverage then. But to still be talking about it thirteen years later is a bit much, no?

Only if you don't believe that 9/11 had a huge impact on our foreign and domestic policy, then yes, it is irrelevant.

It's effects on our domestic policy are rarely discussed. Foreign policy, sure, but the knee-jerk bullshit that happened here because of one event is pretty well ignored or glossed over. Mostly it's an excuse to garner ratings without actually talking much about anything.

[Ifreann]

So the Zimmerman/Martin incident should have received no coverage. Same with the Wilson/Brown case. Same with every damn murder in history. Except wait, that isn't true either. When we start viewing murder as irrelevant, it really shows how far down the toilet society has gone.

Those incidents didn't deserve nearly as much coverage as they got, either.

And just how do you determine how much coverage a given event deserves? And further, why should anyone give a shit about how much coverage is deserved?

[Atlanticatia]

The death of innocent people is never irrelevant. I'm not defending the USA's reaction to 9/11, but to say it's irrelevant is absolute bullshit.

In a nation of three hundred million people, three thousand deaths is as close to irrelevant as you can get. The reaction was overkill, the coverage was overkill, and thirteen years later there's no reason to be fucking talking about it.

It's not necessarily the numbers...although 3,000 in an instant is a lot. But anyway, it was more about that, somehow, a group - during peacetime - attacked American soil, attacked the WTC and pentagon buildings , and it was unexpected. It's unheard of for 3,000 people to die in America as a result of an attack like this, and the fact that it happened to those buildings is even more shocking. I don't agree the Iraq war and NSA that spawned as a result of it, but I sure as hell think it's one of the most shocking and relevant events in recent American history. And for me, atleast, since I live so close to NYC and knew a lot of people who had people that died in it, it's even more shocking to me.
I disagree with the response of America to it, but to call it irrelevant is just false.

[Mezique]

I was home, watching the news...I watched the whole thing happen live on TV. I was 5 years old on 9/11, but that memory is one of the most vivid I have.

[Irav]

I was 3 years old. Just playing in the living room without any knowledge of what both terrorism and the twin towers were.

[Ifreann]

Only if you don't believe that 9/11 had a huge impact on our foreign and domestic policy, then yes, it is irrelevant.

It's effects on our domestic policy are rarely discussed. Foreign policy, sure, but the knee-jerk bullshit that happened here because of one event is pretty well ignored or glossed over. Mostly it's an excuse to garner ratings without actually talking much about anything.

Yeah, no one ever talks about the PATRIOT Act.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

I live on the West Coast, so I was in bed asleep. Everything was already over by the time I woke up.

Got in a road-rage incident later that day, though. Probably wouldn't have happened if everyone on the road wasn't already upset.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Only if you don't believe that 9/11 had a huge impact on our foreign and domestic policy, then yes, it is irrelevant.

It's effects on our domestic policy are rarely discussed. Foreign policy, sure, but the knee-jerk bullshit that happened here because of one event is pretty well ignored or glossed over. Mostly it's an excuse to garner ratings without actually talking much about anything.

And that is precisely why it is relevant.

The fact these are rarely discussed doesn't make 9/11 less relevant.

[The Emerald Dragon]

Only if you don't believe that 9/11 had a huge impact on our foreign and domestic policy, then yes, it is irrelevant.

It's effects on our domestic policy are rarely discussed. Foreign policy, sure, but the knee-jerk bullshit that happened here because of one event is pretty well ignored or glossed over. Mostly it's an excuse to garner ratings without actually talking much about anything.

Invasion of Afghanistan..

"We believe that you hold the Terrorist responsible for the atrocity committed in New York two months ago, please hand him over to U.S officials"

"You believe, on that, I shall refuse your request as he might not even be in Afghanistan"

A few days later, airstrikes began.

Then 2003 came around.

Over a million protesting in London alone, doesn't stop the war or the lies to Congress and Parliament.

Now, back on topic...

9/11 was an amazingly sad time for you Yanks, it was also a sad time for us in Britain, with the loss of 67 British nationals, not to mention the countless American and other fatalities.

[Scomagia]

It's effects on our domestic policy are rarely discussed. Foreign policy, sure, but the knee-jerk bullshit that happened here because of one event is pretty well ignored or glossed over. Mostly it's an excuse to garner ratings without actually talking much about anything.

Yeah, no one ever talks about the PATRIOT Act.

NSG became a mainstream news network at some point? Huh, I wasn't aware.