Low-paying dream job vs. high-paying boring job

[Lalaki]

I want to. I'm not saying I will live up to it, but it is one of my main goals in life. To serve others and live without a lot of things. I hope I can fulfill my dream.

If you were presented with a true choice, I doubt you wouldn't take the monies over your ideals and stuff. We humans are selfish and greedy.

My goal, along with most others, isn't charity and humbleness. That would be a nice secondary goal, that would be something good to brag about in a sugar coated fashion. That would be nice to make yourself feel slightly better. But it's not most of our goals.

My first and for most goal is money, it is power. Money = Power and vice versa, those two are interchangeable, and both would still equal the other. I care for charity, I care for the well being of others, my primary goal is to have a good life, to have my money that I rightfully want, to have the power that comes along with it. If it's between me and money and power, unlike like most idealists that cannot accept the true nature of our own self-interests or are not simply aware of it, I would have to take the money. I've already recognized that we are greedy, I would not reject myself and deny the money.

However one of those powers is charity and being able to help the poor ^_^
Something you cannot when your held back by something pitiful like idealistic humbleness and charity that in the end holds you back further.

I would hope I wouldn't take the money over wanting to help others. That's all. If I do make a lot of money growing up, I would still choose to have a basic lifestyle.

[The Fascist American Empire]

It'd be great if you'd not project your own shortcomings on the entire species.

money isn't everything.

In fact, its one of the least important things despite constantly being promoted by consumerist culture as the Most important.

True. However, money can make those things that are important more readily available (Ah ha! Moment here), such as decent food, water, and healthcare.

[Greed and Death]

Can you do that forever ? Eventually you retire because you can not do that job anymore. Live off the generous 1,200 dollar a month social security ?

Get a real job, even if you stay single you will end up having to be a greeter at walmart to make ends meet.

Of course. I want to be a journalist, but plan on becoming an optometrist or pharmacist if that is not realistic. I simply wanted to say that for more than half of the world's population, $25,000 is a decent income. Not for the United States, not for Europe. But for someone in Algeria, Kenya, or Afghanistan, that feeds the family.

Yeah and when you go to Afghanistan you can buy a cup of tea for about a penny as opposed to 4 dollars Starbucks charges here. Comparing other developing countries to us is rather silly. You should stick tot he developed world and then use cost of living adjustments.

[Aggicificicerous]

I live fairly well right now on about $12,000 a year. Low-income housing is fine for me - what do I need a big house for? I eat well, my healthcare is cheap, internet is only about $40 a month for a decent connection.

And if you plan on doing that for life, what do you plan to do for retirement?

Well, assuming I'm on the $30,000 a year income (in reality it's better paying than that, but this is fine), I'll probably increase my expenditures a bit. But I don't see myself going beyond $15,000 a year. That means I'm putting away $15,000 a year minus whatever I'd pay in taxes. I don't plan on retiring at 65 - why retire from something I love - so I'd have plenty left over for my last few years.

If the government provided more public welfare, this would be doable. With universal health insurance, public housing, etc.

Which area of the country do you live in?

The country? I live in British Columbia.

[The New World Oceania]

You're doing life wrong then.

If 30,000 is enough for you to live off of comfortably, then yes, this, you're doing life wrong.

If you're well off with $30,000 a year then you're doing something right with coupons and coercion.

If you were presented with a true choice, I doubt you wouldn't take the monies over your ideals and stuff. We humans are selfish and greedy.

My goal, along with most others, isn't charity and humbleness. That would be a nice secondary goal, that would be something good to brag about in a sugar coated fashion. That would be nice to make yourself feel slightly better. But it's not most of our goals.

My first and for most goal is money, it is power. Money = Power and vice versa, those two are interchangeable, and both would still equal the other. I care for charity, I care for the well being of others, my primary goal is to have a good life, to have my money that I rightfully want, to have the power that comes along with it. If it's between me and money and power, unlike like most idealists that cannot accept the true nature of our own self-interests or are not simply aware of it, I would have to take the money. I've already recognized that we are greedy, I would not reject myself and deny the money.

However one of those powers is charity and being able to help the poor ^_^
Something you cannot when your held back by something pitiful like idealistic humbleness and charity that in the end holds you back further.

It'd be great if you'd not project your own shortcomings on the entire species.

Don't be foolish. Those aren't shortcomings at all. If anything, only a tiny population has such values, but it isn't surprising that these are the same people who make millions.

[Lalaki]

And if you plan on doing that for life, what do you plan to do for retirement?

Well, assuming I'm on the $30,000 a year income (in reality it's better paying than that, but this is fine), I'll probably increase my expenditures a bit. But I don't see myself going beyond $15,000 a year. That means I'm putting away $15,000 a year minus whatever I'd pay in taxes. I don't plan on retiring at 65 - why retire from something I love - so I'd have plenty left over for my last few years.

If the government provided more public welfare, this would be doable. With universal health insurance, public housing, etc.

Which area of the country do you live in?

The country? I live in British Columbia.

Canada. That explains a lot. You guys have extensive social welfare.

[Aggicificicerous]

Well, assuming I'm on the $30,000 a year income (in reality it's better paying than that, but this is fine), I'll probably increase my expenditures a bit. But I don't see myself going beyond $15,000 a year. That means I'm putting away $15,000 a year minus whatever I'd pay in taxes. I don't plan on retiring at 65 - why retire from something I love - so I'd have plenty left over for my last few years.




The country? I live in British Columbia.

Canada. That explains a lot. You guys have extensive social welfare.

Having a reasonable healthcare system is certainly helpful.

[True American States]

In this economy be happy you have a job.

[The Serbian Empire]

I've lived all of my life in a relatively wealthy (around $140,000 annually) family, so imagining how much worse $30k would be, and how much better $250k would be based on that reference-point, I'm going to go with the high-paying boring job.

I've been living at about 42K a year for the last few years and know how hard it is around that point. Now even $70K would make life a lot easier for me. S250K a year? I'd be able to save most of my earnings and never fear a rainy day. I've been living near that scraping point and just desire to a bit better off than where I am now. $60 to 80K would be awesome... anything more and I'd be in paradise.

[Rebellious Fishermen]

I'm not sure I agree with the conditions you set, but in general I say dream job.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

This question really doesn't make any sense once you add the "it'll be fixed for life" option.

The problem between getting a low-paying dream job vs the high-paying boring job is not in the terms of "Oh I'll remain there forever" only an idiot would think that.

I'd take the Low-Paying Dream Job because that is a springboard to actually manage to get higher positions within that field that I enjoy during and I'll never get bored being the supervisor or rising the ladder on that particular field. So if this was between a low-paying dream job and high-paying boring job within the same field I'd pick the high-paying job.

However, if you place it "Low-paying job in your dream field" vs "High-paying job in a field you do not enjoy and have never been good at to begin with" and there's chances of advancement within both then of course I am going to pick the low-paying job still.

Your assumption that people want to work at a job for life is pretty misplaced.

[Pandeeria]

If you were presented with a true choice, I doubt you wouldn't take the monies over your ideals and stuff. We humans are selfish and greedy.

My goal, along with most others, isn't charity and humbleness. That would be a nice secondary goal, that would be something good to brag about in a sugar coated fashion. That would be nice to make yourself feel slightly better. But it's not most of our goals.

My first and for most goal is money, it is power. Money = Power and vice versa, those two are interchangeable, and both would still equal the other. I care for charity, I care for the well being of others, my primary goal is to have a good life, to have my money that I rightfully want, to have the power that comes along with it. If it's between me and money and power, unlike like most idealists that cannot accept the true nature of our own self-interests or are not simply aware of it, I would have to take the money. I've already recognized that we are greedy, I would not reject myself and deny the money.

However one of those powers is charity and being able to help the poor ^_^
Something you cannot when your held back by something pitiful like idealistic humbleness and charity that in the end holds you back further.

I would hope I wouldn't take the money over wanting to help others. That's all. If I do make a lot of money growing up, I would still choose to have a basic lifestyle.

The good thing is that you can use the money to help others.

[Atelia]

"Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life."

[Lalaki]

I would hope I wouldn't take the money over wanting to help others. That's all. If I do make a lot of money growing up, I would still choose to have a basic lifestyle.

Exactly. I think I need to reword what I believe.


The good thing is that you can use the money to help others.

I want to make a lot of money, and give most of it away to family and people in need. I want to live a basic life myself.

[The Black Forrest]

I do pretty well.

I dream of the low paying dream job.

Computing was fun; but it's all about money now.

[Wanderjar]

I did exactly that, by joining the Army. Sure the pay's crappy at first but stick it out for twenty years I'll make over 100K.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I do pretty well.

I dream of the low paying dream job.

Computing was fun; but it's all about money now.

I like computing; it's all about the money, but computing still has a lot to offer.

[The Black Forrest]

I do pretty well.

I dream of the low paying dream job.

Computing was fun; but it's all about money now.

I like computing; it's all about the money, but computing still has a lot to offer.

It depends on the company and the country. Somebody learning to be a programmer in the US has a decent chance of not getting decent work. Americans cost too much after all. I could really use a person. I have been told I can hire one as long as they are in India. The problem is the work I need done is time zone dependent. The managements response is "well let them do the architecture work and you can do the manual work." Everybody wins right?

There used to be an adventure spirit. Only some companies have it now.

I was an acquisition and they really don't know what to do with me. The only thing that has kept me going is the coworkers actually trying to get me used more. I introduced the naming services guy to Infoblox and bluecat and gave him a lesson and history of DNS. He went to the uppers and told them they really have a "gold mine" with me. A guy who quit tried to tell them you really need to take care of me and another coworker as when these two are giving a task to solve something completely weird; they do it all the time. Management was "yeah yeah whatever"

The work isn't stimulating anymore. Which is sad because they are a 2 billion a year multinational. Their silly HR department thinks I can't cross industries.....

Time for a new company. I am looking for that place that will make me want to go to work again.

[Skeckoa]

Get a roommate, live with extended family (as is common for people who I know, so I don't feel like that much of a leech), I'd take a 60.000 pay cut as to not dread half of 5/6 days a week.

If I ever have to live for someone else though, that'd change. (like a spouse, child, or friend in need)

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I like computing; it's all about the money, but computing still has a lot to offer.

It depends on the company and the country. Somebody learning to be a programmer in the US has a decent chance of not getting decent work. Americans cost too much after all. I could really use a person. I have been told I can hire one as long as they are in India. The problem is the work I need done is time zone dependent. The managements response is "well let them do the architecture work and you can do the manual work." Everybody wins right?

There used to be an adventure spirit. Only some companies have it now.

I was an acquisition and they really don't know what to do with me. The only thing that has kept me going is the coworkers actually trying to get me used more. I introduced the naming services guy to Infoblox and bluecat and gave him a lesson and history of DNS. He went to the uppers and told them they really have a "gold mine" with me. A guy who quit tried to tell them you really need to take care of me and another coworker as when these two are giving a task to solve something completely weird; they do it all the time. Management was "yeah yeah whatever"

The work isn't stimulating anymore. Which is sad because they are a 2 billion a year multinational. Their silly HR department thinks I can't cross industries.....

Time for a new company. I am looking for that place that will make me want to go to work again.

To be fair, most of us who grew up with the old computers and have seen technology advance are more suitable to be cross-field material in the computer industry.

I myself am trying to get into computer repairs and service. I think the hardware part is dying, but the software and data part? I feel that's where most people are focused nowadays. I'm not particularly interested in working for a multinational unless I am working in a department I actually feel comfortable in.

[Greed and Death]

I like computing; it's all about the money, but computing still has a lot to offer.

It depends on the company and the country. Somebody learning to be a programmer in the US has a decent chance of not getting decent work. Americans cost too much after all. I could really use a person. I have been told I can hire one as long as they are in India. The problem is the work I need done is time zone dependent. The managements response is "well let them do the architecture work and you can do the manual work." Everybody wins right?

There used to be an adventure spirit. Only some companies have it now.

I was an acquisition and they really don't know what to do with me. The only thing that has kept me going is the coworkers actually trying to get me used more. I introduced the naming services guy to Infoblox and bluecat and gave him a lesson and history of DNS. He went to the uppers and told them they really have a "gold mine" with me. A guy who quit tried to tell them you really need to take care of me and another coworker as when these two are giving a task to solve something completely weird; they do it all the time. Management was "yeah yeah whatever"

The work isn't stimulating anymore. Which is sad because they are a 2 billion a year multinational. Their silly HR department thinks I can't cross industries.....

Time for a new company. I am looking for that place that will make me want to go to work again.

Have you considered electronic forensics ? Banks are hiring in their compliance compartments like mad right now, because of Dodd frank. Pay is good with the chance to be ridiculously good, and the team tends to be pulled from a variety of professions.

[The Black Forrest]

It depends on the company and the country. Somebody learning to be a programmer in the US has a decent chance of not getting decent work. Americans cost too much after all. I could really use a person. I have been told I can hire one as long as they are in India. The problem is the work I need done is time zone dependent. The managements response is "well let them do the architecture work and you can do the manual work." Everybody wins right?

There used to be an adventure spirit. Only some companies have it now.

I was an acquisition and they really don't know what to do with me. The only thing that has kept me going is the coworkers actually trying to get me used more. I introduced the naming services guy to Infoblox and bluecat and gave him a lesson and history of DNS. He went to the uppers and told them they really have a "gold mine" with me. A guy who quit tried to tell them you really need to take care of me and another coworker as when these two are giving a task to solve something completely weird; they do it all the time. Management was "yeah yeah whatever"

The work isn't stimulating anymore. Which is sad because they are a 2 billion a year multinational. Their silly HR department thinks I can't cross industries.....

Time for a new company. I am looking for that place that will make me want to go to work again.

Have you considered electronic forensics ? Banks are hiring in their compliance compartments like mad right now, because of Dodd frank. Pay is good with the chance to be ridiculously good, and the team tends to be pulled from a variety of professions.

Actually no I haven't. I have a security background. Did Internetworking security for the DoD. I will look into that. Thanks!

[Lemanrussland]

I'd rather take home more money, to be honest.

60,000 is a lot of money that I can use to do things I love on my free time. Any minor loss of enjoyment at work due to boredom is worth it, in my opinion.

[Margno]

Oh, I've already got a low paying dream job, bitches!

[The Two Jerseys]

"I don't ask questions, I just take their money and use it for things that really interest me."
-George Sanders