Low-paying dream job vs. high-paying boring job

[Seno Zhou Varada]

250K definitely.

My main reason is my parents, siblings, etc. And other than that I love the expensive things in life and eventually being so rich I can quit working at a really nice age if I save would be amazing.

[Greed and Death]

Doing what you love is a recipe for poverty. Yes I understand there are some people who get money and what they allegedly love most are liars the others are extreme outliers.

So the choice presented by OP is very real and only the short sighted would choose to what they love for a pittance.

[Pandeeria]

I wonder out of all the people that say they wish to live a humble and charitable life, how many of them would actually, genuinely do so.

I want to. I'm not saying I will live up to it, but it is one of my main goals in life. To serve others and live without a lot of things. I hope I can fulfill my dream.

If you were presented with a true choice, I doubt you wouldn't take the monies over your ideals and stuff. We humans are selfish and greedy.

My goal, along with most others, isn't charity and humbleness. That would be a nice secondary goal, that would be something good to brag about in a sugar coated fashion. That would be nice to make yourself feel slightly better. But it's not most of our goals.

My first and for most goal is money, it is power. Money = Power and vice versa, those two are interchangeable, and both would still equal the other. I care for charity, I care for the well being of others, my primary goal is to have a good life, to have my money that I rightfully want, to have the power that comes along with it. If it's between me and money and power, unlike like most idealists that cannot accept the true nature of our own self-interests or are not simply aware of it, I would have to take the money. I've already recognized that we are greedy, I would not reject myself and deny the money.

However one of those powers is charity and being able to help the poor ^_^
Something you cannot when your held back by something pitiful like idealistic humbleness and charity that in the end holds you back further.

[Lalaki]

Doing what you love is a recipe for poverty. Yes I understand there are some people who get money and what they allegedly love most are liars the others are extreme outliers.

So the choice presented by OP is very real and only the short sighted would choose to what they love for a pittance.

$25,000, if I lived alone, would be fine. I wouldn't be living with a lot of things, obviously. The only luxury thing I want in life is the Internet.

If I have a family, I would go for the high-paying job. Not for me, but for the sake of them.

[United Marxist Nations]

I want to. I'm not saying I will live up to it, but it is one of my main goals in life. To serve others and live without a lot of things. I hope I can fulfill my dream.

If you were presented with a true choice, I doubt you wouldn't take the monies over your ideals and stuff. We humans are selfish and greedy.

My goal, along with most others, isn't charity and humbleness. That would be a nice secondary goal, that would be something good to brag about in a sugar coated fashion. That would be nice to make yourself feel slightly better. But it's not most of our goals.

My first and for most goal is money, it is power. Money = Power and vice versa, those two are interchangeable, and both would still equal the other. I care for charity, I care for the well being of others, my primary goal is to have a good life, to have my money that I rightfully want, to have the power that comes along with it. If it's between me and money and power, unlike like most idealists that cannot accept the true nature of our own self-interests or are not simply aware of it, I would have to take the money. I've already recognized that we are greedy, I would not reject myself and deny the money.

However one of those powers is charity and being able to help the poor ^_^

This last sentence so much; if you have a lot of power, it doesn't necessarily mean you have to be a dick about it. You can use your power to further the interests of those with less power than yourself, a la Friedrich Engels.

[Cannot think of a name]

I made this choice years ago. I went with something I dig. My brother did, too, and serves as a better example since I've had some missteps here and there that have made my situation less than ideal. But my brother's bills are modest and paid but more importantly, there isn't a moment in his day where he's not doing something he thinks is fucking awesome. If day in and day out you're doing something that you think is awesome and you're still getting paid, what the fuck more do you need? All that shit that you buy with all the money you're making doing something that kills you a little inside every day you do it is to make up for the numbness of your job, to justify the meaningless toil at shit you don't care about. If you're doing something awesome already, you don't need to fill that hole.

[United Marxist Nations]

Doing what you love is a recipe for poverty. Yes I understand there are some people who get money and what they allegedly love most are liars the others are extreme outliers.

So the choice presented by OP is very real and only the short sighted would choose to what they love for a pittance.

$25,000, if I lived alone, would be fine. I wouldn't be living with a lot of things, obviously. The only luxury thing I want in life is the Internet.

If I have a family, I would go for the high-paying job. Not for me, but for the sake of them.

$25,000 is not much, it's extremely low-income housing, relatively poor food, and a likely inadequate healthcare program. And you'd be lucky to be able to afford internet at that rate.

[Greed and Death]

Doing what you love is a recipe for poverty. Yes I understand there are some people who get money and what they allegedly love most are liars the others are extreme outliers.

So the choice presented by OP is very real and only the short sighted would choose to what they love for a pittance.

$25,000, if I lived alone, would be fine. I wouldn't be living with a lot of things, obviously. The only luxury thing I want in life is the Internet.

If I have a family, I would go for the high-paying job. Not for me, but for the sake of them.

Can you do that forever ? Eventually you retire because you can not do that job anymore. Live off the generous 1,200 dollar a month social security ?

Get a real job, even if you stay single you will end up having to be a greeter at walmart to make ends meet.

[Lalaki]

$25,000, if I lived alone, would be fine. I wouldn't be living with a lot of things, obviously. The only luxury thing I want in life is the Internet.

If I have a family, I would go for the high-paying job. Not for me, but for the sake of them.

$25,000 is not much, it's extremely low-income housing, relatively poor food, and a likely inadequate healthcare program. And you'd be lucky to be able to afford internet at that rate.

Low-income housing is fine, I would be thankful for the privilege of eating food, and I could use the Internet at the public library.

I do see what you mean by health care, though.

[Pandeeria]

$25,000 is not much, it's extremely low-income housing, relatively poor food, and a likely inadequate healthcare program. And you'd be lucky to be able to afford internet at that rate.

Low-income housing is fine, I would be thankful for the privilege of eating food, and I could use the Internet at the public library.

I do see what you mean by health care, though.

It would be a pain in the ass to drive in a cheap, crappy car with always low gas to a poorly funded library with even poorer internet.

[Atlanticatia]

I made this choice years ago. I went with something I dig. My brother did, too, and serves as a better example since I've had some missteps here and there that have made my situation less than ideal. But my brother's bills are modest and paid but more importantly, there isn't a moment in his day where he's not doing something he thinks is fucking awesome. If day in and day out you're doing something that you think is awesome and you're still getting paid, what the fuck more do you need? All that shit that you buy with all the money you're making doing something that kills you a little inside every day you do it is to make up for the numbness of your job, to justify the meaningless toil at shit you don't care about. If you're doing something awesome already, you don't need to fill that hole.

That's very true. The biggest reason I'd choose the high paying job, is that I'd be able to save enough that I'd be able to retire at 35 or 40 and do what I want for the rest of my life. It'd be like the best of both worlds, imo.

Like, as I said in my recent post, if you earned $500k a year for 15-20 years and saved/invested, you'd be able to retire at 35-40 and live off of a 6-figure income for the rest of your life. I'd probably do that and do everything on my bucket list before getting too old.

[Infected Mushroom]

$25,000, if I lived alone, would be fine. I wouldn't be living with a lot of things, obviously. The only luxury thing I want in life is the Internet.

If I have a family, I would go for the high-paying job. Not for me, but for the sake of them.

Can you do that forever ? Eventually you retire because you can not do that job anymore. Live off the generous 1,200 dollar a month social security ?

Get a real job, even if you stay single you will end up having to be a greeter at walmart to make ends meet.

you spend most of your life working though. You can only use the money when you are not working.

So money is only relevant for a small proportion of your life.

Work is the big picture and in the workplace, money doesn't mean anything. Its more about how much you enjoy your time there. If you enjoy yourself at work, you'll enjoy most of your life. You're set for the majority of the time you spend in your life.

[United Marxist Nations]

Low-income housing is fine, I would be thankful for the privilege of eating food, and I could use the Internet at the public library.

I do see what you mean by health care, though.

It would be a pain in the ass to drive in a cheap, crappy car with always low gas to a poorly funded library with even poorer internet.

Not to mention that you'd have to pay for the insurance of the car to boot.

[Lalaki]

$25,000, if I lived alone, would be fine. I wouldn't be living with a lot of things, obviously. The only luxury thing I want in life is the Internet.

If I have a family, I would go for the high-paying job. Not for me, but for the sake of them.

Can you do that forever ? Eventually you retire because you can not do that job anymore. Live off the generous 1,200 dollar a month social security ?

Get a real job, even if you stay single you will end up having to be a greeter at walmart to make ends meet.

Of course. I want to be a journalist, but plan on becoming an optometrist or pharmacist if that is not realistic. I simply wanted to say that for more than half of the world's population, $25,000 is a decent income. Not for the United States, not for Europe. But for someone in Algeria, Kenya, or Afghanistan, that feeds the family.

[Pandeeria]

Can you do that forever ? Eventually you retire because you can not do that job anymore. Live off the generous 1,200 dollar a month social security ?

Get a real job, even if you stay single you will end up having to be a greeter at walmart to make ends meet.

Of course. I want to be a journalist, but plan on becoming an optometrist or pharmacist if that is not realistic. I simply wanted to say that for more than half of the world's population, $25,000 is a decent income. Not for the United States, not for Europe. But for someone in Algeria, Kenya, or Afghanistan, that feeds the family.

The Algerians, Kenyans, and Afghani children do not have the opportunity nor the choice for the money. You do. I have no idea why you'd choose to live in poor conditions without any money, power, or luxury, while others would literally kill for the very thing you rejected because of your silly ideals.

[Atlanticatia]

Can you do that forever ? Eventually you retire because you can not do that job anymore. Live off the generous 1,200 dollar a month social security ?

Get a real job, even if you stay single you will end up having to be a greeter at walmart to make ends meet.

Of course. I want to be a journalist, but plan on becoming an optometrist or pharmacist if that is not realistic. I simply wanted to say that for more than half of the world's population, $25,000 is a decent income. Not for the United States, not for Europe. But for someone in Algeria, Kenya, or Afghanistan, that feeds the family.

Relativity is important, though, because in many countries like that, $25,000 would be considered the high-paying job, and $500 might be the low-paying job, which is quite sad actually.

But as I said, relativity is important, as $25,000 won't afford you a (relatively) decent lifestyle, unfortunately. It wouldn't be poverty, but it'd definitely be scraping by.

[Aggicificicerous]

$25,000, if I lived alone, would be fine. I wouldn't be living with a lot of things, obviously. The only luxury thing I want in life is the Internet.

If I have a family, I would go for the high-paying job. Not for me, but for the sake of them.

$25,000 is not much, it's extremely low-income housing, relatively poor food, and a likely inadequate healthcare program. And you'd be lucky to be able to afford internet at that rate.

I live fairly well right now on about $12,000 a year. Low-income housing is fine for me - what do I need a big house for? I eat well, my healthcare is cheap, internet is only about $40 a month for a decent connection.

[Greed and Death]

$25,000, if I lived alone, would be fine. I wouldn't be living with a lot of things, obviously. The only luxury thing I want in life is the Internet.

If I have a family, I would go for the high-paying job. Not for me, but for the sake of them.

$25,000 is not much, it's extremely low-income housing, relatively poor food, and a likely inadequate healthcare program. And you'd be lucky to be able to afford internet at that rate.

And then comes retirement where the income halves. If you are only thinking about your current needs you are going to get burned in retirement.

[United Marxist Nations]

$25,000 is not much, it's extremely low-income housing, relatively poor food, and a likely inadequate healthcare program. And you'd be lucky to be able to afford internet at that rate.

I live fairly well right now on about $12,000 a year. Low-income housing is fine for me - what do I need a big house for? I eat well, my healthcare is cheap, internet is only about $40 a month for a decent connection.

And if you plan on doing that for life, what do you plan to do for retirement?

[Lalaki]

$25,000 is not much, it's extremely low-income housing, relatively poor food, and a likely inadequate healthcare program. And you'd be lucky to be able to afford internet at that rate.

I live fairly well right now on about $12,000 a year. Low-income housing is fine for me - what do I need a big house for? I eat well, my healthcare is cheap, internet is only about $40 a month for a decent connection.

If the government provided more public welfare, this would be doable. With universal health insurance, public housing, etc.

Which area of the country do you live in?

[Atlanticatia]

$25,000 is not much, it's extremely low-income housing, relatively poor food, and a likely inadequate healthcare program. And you'd be lucky to be able to afford internet at that rate.

I live fairly well right now on about $12,000 a year. Low-income housing is fine for me - what do I need a big house for? I eat well, my healthcare is cheap, internet is only about $40 a month for a decent connection.

Do you live in an area that has a low cost of living?

[Cannot think of a name]

I want to. I'm not saying I will live up to it, but it is one of my main goals in life. To serve others and live without a lot of things. I hope I can fulfill my dream.

If you were presented with a true choice, I doubt you wouldn't take the monies over your ideals and stuff. We humans are selfish and greedy.

My goal, along with most others, isn't charity and humbleness. That would be a nice secondary goal, that would be something good to brag about in a sugar coated fashion. That would be nice to make yourself feel slightly better. But it's not most of our goals.

My first and for most goal is money, it is power. Money = Power and vice versa, those two are interchangeable, and both would still equal the other. I care for charity, I care for the well being of others, my primary goal is to have a good life, to have my money that I rightfully want, to have the power that comes along with it. If it's between me and money and power, unlike like most idealists that cannot accept the true nature of our own self-interests or are not simply aware of it, I would have to take the money. I've already recognized that we are greedy, I would not reject myself and deny the money.

However one of those powers is charity and being able to help the poor ^_^
Something you cannot when your held back by something pitiful like idealistic humbleness and charity that in the end holds you back further.

It'd be great if you'd not project your own shortcomings on the entire species.

[Lalaki]

Of course. I want to be a journalist, but plan on becoming an optometrist or pharmacist if that is not realistic. I simply wanted to say that for more than half of the world's population, $25,000 is a decent income. Not for the United States, not for Europe. But for someone in Algeria, Kenya, or Afghanistan, that feeds the family.

Relativity is important, though, because in many countries like that, $25,000 would be considered the high-paying job, and $500 might be the low-paying job, which is quite sad actually.

But as I said, relativity is important, as $25,000 won't afford you a (relatively) decent lifestyle, unfortunately. It wouldn't be poverty, but it'd definitely be scraping by.

I agree. But scraping by is better than having no food on the table. I am thankful to have that.

[Infected Mushroom]

If you were presented with a true choice, I doubt you wouldn't take the monies over your ideals and stuff. We humans are selfish and greedy.

My goal, along with most others, isn't charity and humbleness. That would be a nice secondary goal, that would be something good to brag about in a sugar coated fashion. That would be nice to make yourself feel slightly better. But it's not most of our goals.

My first and for most goal is money, it is power. Money = Power and vice versa, those two are interchangeable, and both would still equal the other. I care for charity, I care for the well being of others, my primary goal is to have a good life, to have my money that I rightfully want, to have the power that comes along with it. If it's between me and money and power, unlike like most idealists that cannot accept the true nature of our own self-interests or are not simply aware of it, I would have to take the money. I've already recognized that we are greedy, I would not reject myself and deny the money.

However one of those powers is charity and being able to help the poor ^_^
Something you cannot when your held back by something pitiful like idealistic humbleness and charity that in the end holds you back further.

It'd be great if you'd not project your own shortcomings on the entire species.

money isn't everything.

In fact, its one of the least important things despite constantly being promoted by consumerist culture as the Most important.

[The Fascist American Empire]

I wonder out of all the people that say they wish to live a humble and charitable life, how many of them would actually, genuinely do so.

Less than 50%, let's just put it that way.