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Greatest Empire

British Empire
235
32%
Ottoman Empire
22
3%
Japanese Empire
12
2%
Holy Roman Empire
27
4%
Russian Empire
24
3%
Persian Empire
19
3%
Napoleon's French Empire
37
5%
Chinese Empire
9
1%
Roman Empire
237
33%
Mongol Empire
103
14%
 
Total votes : 725

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Postby Immoren » Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:22 am

Benuty wrote:Histories greatest empire has been Death who has participated in everything, and effectively controls the largest (in terms of most populous) empire to date.

Yet He still hasn't learned rules of the Bridge.
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Postby Utceforp » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:31 pm

Benuty wrote:Histories greatest empire has been Death who has participated in everything, and effectively controls the largest (in terms of most populous) empire to date.

Death controls no territory and has no government, though.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:33 pm

Immoren wrote:
Benuty wrote:Histories greatest empire has been Death who has participated in everything, and effectively controls the largest (in terms of most populous) empire to date.

Yet He still hasn't learned rules of the Bridge.

And he can never remember how knights move in chess.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:07 pm

The British Empire was the greatest empire in history in my opinion. It's a close call though.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:08 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Benuty wrote:Histories greatest empire has been Death who has participated in everything, and effectively controls the largest (in terms of most populous) empire to date.

Death controls no territory and has no government, though.

Death is the liege of everything and everyone and whether we like it or not we are summoned to the liege's court to never return. :)

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Postby Ruapekapeka » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:10 pm

American.

900 bases in 130 countries.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:13 pm

Ruapekapeka wrote:American.

900 bases in 130 countries.

"The sun never sets in the British Empire."

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Postby Calimera II » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:14 pm

Greatest in what sense?

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Postby British Prussia » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:17 pm

No love for the Chinese Empire?
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Postby Bajacali » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:20 pm

Calimera II wrote:Greatest in what sense?

This. "Greatest" is a really arbitrary term, as is "empire."
In terms of the most powerful, in terms of raw diplomatic and military influence and capacity to dictate the terms of world events, Britain, Brazil, Byzantium, Turkey, and the U.S. have all done fine jobs of just absolutely calling the shots in their respective spheres of influence during their zeniths.
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:36 pm

Bajacali wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Greatest in what sense?

This. "Greatest" is a really arbitrary term, as is "empire."
In terms of the most powerful, in terms of raw diplomatic and military influence and capacity to dictate the terms of world events, Britain, Brazil, Byzantium, Turkey, and the U.S. have all done fine jobs of just absolutely calling the shots in their respective spheres of influence during their zeniths.
Germany and the Mongols get honorable mentions for swiftest emergence.
China, Egypt, Britain, and the U.S. were probably the greatest patrons of knowledge.
Napoleon III's and Kim il-Sung's are the greatest to study, in terms of their sheer fascinating silliness.

Empire is not an arbitrary term. It's defined by an unequal relationship between polities in which a territory holds the sovereignty of subservient territories.

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Postby Villa Mercedes » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:38 pm

The British Empire.. hell no.

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Postby Bajacali » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:56 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Bajacali wrote:This. "Greatest" is a really arbitrary term, as is "empire."
In terms of the most powerful, in terms of raw diplomatic and military influence and capacity to dictate the terms of world events, Britain, Brazil, Byzantium, Turkey, and the U.S. have all done fine jobs of just absolutely calling the shots in their respective spheres of influence during their zeniths.
Germany and the Mongols get honorable mentions for swiftest emergence.
China, Egypt, Britain, and the U.S. were probably the greatest patrons of knowledge.
Napoleon III's and Kim il-Sung's are the greatest to study, in terms of their sheer fascinating silliness.

Empire is not an arbitrary term. It's defined by an unequal relationship between polities in which a territory holds the sovereignty of subservient territories.

I've consulted the Emperor of Japan, Michael Dunkley, and David Petraeus, and we've come to the unanimous conclusion that what you've described is better described as a suzerain-puppet relationship.

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Postby Conscentia » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:04 pm

Bajacali wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Empire is not an arbitrary term. It's defined by an unequal relationship between polities in which a territory holds the sovereignty of subservient territories.

I've consulted the Emperor of Japan, Michael Dunkley, and David Petraeus, and we've come to the unanimous conclusion that what you've described is better described as a suzerain-puppet relationship.

Did you also consult Emperor Norton, and Mayor McCheese?

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Postby Bajacali » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:13 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Bajacali wrote:I've consulted the Emperor of Japan, Michael Dunkley, and David Petraeus, and we've come to the unanimous conclusion that what you've described is better described as a suzerain-puppet relationship.

Did you also consult Emperor Norton, and Mayor McCheese?

Norton I was there. Mayor McCheese had a press conference but his chief of staff phoned in.

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Postby Prezelly » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:15 pm

Nobody conquers all of Asia, except the Mongols.
Militarily, the Mongols were the best, and that was like their thing. The Mongols didn't strive to last long, only to conquer, and that is what they did and why I consider them the greatest
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Postby New Decius » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:35 pm

Most say that Rome was the greatest Empire.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:23 pm

British Prussia wrote:No love for the Chinese Empire?

The OP thinks that China wasn't a "real empire."
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:26 pm

Why isn't Alexander the Great's Empire up there?
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:48 pm

Australian Republic wrote:Why isn't Alexander the Great's Empire up there?

OP is a dick to ancient empires.
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Postby Lalaki » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:19 pm

Ruapekapeka wrote:American.

900 bases in 130 countries.


Most of which (barring Cuba and the Middle East) are a part of historical friendships that the United States has built with the nations of Europe, South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, etc. The governments there want us to stick around. While we can get the impression of hostility from people fighting in the comment sections of YouTube, America is very close friends with the countries I mention above. We have an agreement to defend numerous nations without their own armed forces as well.

The United States has made, and continues to make, many mistakes. But people also need to see the good. We need to be optimistic.
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Postby Roski » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:44 pm

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Postby Utceforp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:23 pm

Australian Republic wrote:Why isn't Alexander the Great's Empire up there?

The Achaemenids are more deserving.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:32 pm

Rome, nothing shaped the West, or the World, quite like it. It set a standard that everyone pursued.

And the Mongols? Pffft. I don't consider them much of an Empire. Sure, they loosely ruled a large amount of land and got a lot of tributary states, but they were poor administrators and their Empire was divided quickly. Rome was much more world-changing, and thus a better Empire. Mongols had a better army, though... and that's pretty much all their empire was...

My secondary choice for Greatest Empire would be China,for it's durability through the ages, but I don't know much about them.
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Postby Gharnattah » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:45 am

I would say either the The Umayyad Caliphate or the Spanish Empire
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