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What was History's Greatest Empire?

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Greatest Empire

British Empire
235
32%
Ottoman Empire
22
3%
Japanese Empire
12
2%
Holy Roman Empire
27
4%
Russian Empire
24
3%
Persian Empire
19
3%
Napoleon's French Empire
37
5%
Chinese Empire
9
1%
Roman Empire
237
33%
Mongol Empire
103
14%
 
Total votes : 725

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Postby Franluxin » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:45 am

The Sikh Raj

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Postby Celesburg » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:46 am

Mongol or Arab.
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Postby Trevor Philips Industries » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:46 am

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Postby Alexandreon » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:46 am

Untaroicht wrote:
Utceforp wrote:

—Steven Runciman, The Emperor Romanus Lecapenus and His Reign: A Study of Tenth-Century Byzantium, 1988

They flourished culturally and scientifically during the medieval era while the rest of Europe was in the dark ages, enough to rival the islamic golden age.


And what's also important, it was the Byzantine Empire that preserved the heritage of Roman law in Codex Iustinianus, Digesta seu Pandecta, Institutiones and Novellae...

Not to mention preservation of philosophical heritage...
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Postby Ifaltannia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:48 am

British Empire
-GMT (time system)
-Widespread Industrialization
-Spread parliamentary forms of government to its colonies
-English Language (even if americans taint it, yes i'm joking)
-even more...
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Postby Utceforp » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:49 am

FranLuxIn wrote:The Sikh Raj

Interesting choice. I'd genuinely be interested in hearing why you chose it.
Celesburg wrote:Mongol or Arab.

The thing is, there never was an "Arab" empire. You have your various Caliphates, from Rashidun to the Abbasids. It's like saying the Persian Empire was the best empire. You have to specify whether you are referring to the Achaemenids, the Sassanids, the Parthians, the Saffarids, etc.
Signatures are so 2014.

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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:51 am

The only good empire is a dead empire.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby KAS SRD » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:53 am

Arglorand wrote:The only good empire is a dead empire.

Really? Empires have to be bad?

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Postby Ifaltannia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:54 am

I hope your enjoying communicating in English.
All hail Britannia!
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Defcon:[5] 4 3 2 1
Ifaltannia is a country in the arctic populated by Ifalts with strong Proto-Germanic roots. It's most prominent religion is Wodenism/Esetroth and the language of its people is closely related to Old-English. The country is lead by King Aeflswin with the assistance of the Current PM. The population of Ifaltannia is 2.6 Million.
Long live the Kingdom
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Postby Ifaltannia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:54 am

Arglorand wrote:The only good empire is a dead empire.

What Language is that? English? Your welcome
The Kingdom Of Ifaltannia
Current Monarch: King Aeflswin
Current Prime Minister: Radnar Verback
Current Wars: Peace
Defcon:[5] 4 3 2 1
Ifaltannia is a country in the arctic populated by Ifalts with strong Proto-Germanic roots. It's most prominent religion is Wodenism/Esetroth and the language of its people is closely related to Old-English. The country is lead by King Aeflswin with the assistance of the Current PM. The population of Ifaltannia is 2.6 Million.
Long live the Kingdom
-See my factbook for a complete history document.

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Postby Utceforp » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:55 am

KAS SRD wrote:
Arglorand wrote:The only good empire is a dead empire.

Really? Empires have to be bad?

Well, by definition they're culturally and militarily dominating other groups...
Signatures are so 2014.

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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:56 am

Ifaltannia wrote:
Arglorand wrote:The only good empire is a dead empire.

What Language is that? English? Your welcome

You're assuming I'm grateful.

If you people with your invading of random African countries weren't there, there'd be someone else. And someone else would have tossed their language on the world. Don't think you're all that unique.

Not to mention that you weren't in any way responsible for me learning English, so I'm honestly unsure why I should feel grateful at all.
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Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Utceforp » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:56 am

Ifaltannia wrote:I hope your enjoying communicating in English.
All hail Britannia!

I wish I spoke another language rather than English. English is a stupid, arbitrary mix of random French and Anglo-Saxon words. Couldn't the dominant language have been a logical language?
Signatures are so 2014.

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Postby Rephesus » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:58 am

Why are Japan and The Ottomans the only non-European empires? And why only 20th Century empires? I mean, what about Rome, the Mongols, The Aztec, the Qin, the Mughals, Persians, Songhai, etc

And seriously? The German Empire? Might as well put Belgium on there

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Postby Aydean » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:58 am

Ottoman and the Byzantine

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Postby Arvenia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:58 am

The British Empire!
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:59 am

Utceforp wrote:
Ifaltannia wrote:I hope your enjoying communicating in English.
All hail Britannia!

I wish I spoke another language rather than English. English is a stupid, arbitrary mix of random French and Anglo-Saxon words. Couldn't the dominant language have been a logical language?

Because there are no logical languages.

Except Esperanto, but that's an example of good Eastern European linguistic engineering in a dude's free time.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Utceforp » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:59 am

Rephesus wrote:Why are Japan and The Ottomans the only non-European empires? And why only 20th Century empires? I mean, what about Rome, the Mongols, The Aztec, the Qin, the Mughals, Persians, Songhai, etc

And seriously? The German Empire? Might as well put Belgium on there

I'd change Qin to all of the Chinese dynasties, minus the Yuan and the Qing, obviously.
Signatures are so 2014.

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Postby Allmann » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:01 am

I resent that the Swedish empire is not on the list for that was indeed the greatest Empire.
In some more serious terms why is there no Roman/Byzantine and Mongol choice?

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Postby Rephesus » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:01 am

If the OP is trying to say Colonial Empire, you might want to just go full Eurocentric and put the Dutch and Portuguese on there. Plus I'd switch Germany with Belgium.

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Postby Roski » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:02 am

What about the American Empire? Founded 1776, still standing today.

Its the single most powerful political entity in the entirety of history.
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:02 am

Rephesus wrote:If the OP is trying to say Colonial Empire, you might want to just go full Eurocentric and put the Dutch and Portuguese on there. Plus I'd switch Germany with Belgium.

Putting Belgium on there prompts trolls to go, "LEOPOLD WAS TOTALLY RIGHT IN KILLING THOSE BLACKIES", so we really can't do that.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Postby Utceforp » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:03 am

Allmann wrote:I resent that the Swedish empire is not on the list for that was indeed the greatest Empire.
In some more serious terms why is there no Roman/Byzantine and Mongol choice?

Along with the Persian/Macedonian choice, the Chinese choice, the Phoenician/Carthaginian choice, the Carolingian choice, etc, etc. But of course, none of these options are more worthy of being on the list than the great and might Austro-Hungarian Empire!
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Signatures are so 2014.

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Postby Dajing (Ancient) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:04 am

Achaemenids/Chinese

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Postby Ifaltannia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:05 am

Roski wrote:What about the American Empire? Founded 1776, still standing today.

Its the single most powerful political entity in the entirety of history.


EMPIRE. Get A Dictionary kid, Far more things are more influenctual then the U.S The entire of history. 1776-2014 ALL OF HISTORY!!
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The Kingdom Of Ifaltannia
Current Monarch: King Aeflswin
Current Prime Minister: Radnar Verback
Current Wars: Peace
Defcon:[5] 4 3 2 1
Ifaltannia is a country in the arctic populated by Ifalts with strong Proto-Germanic roots. It's most prominent religion is Wodenism/Esetroth and the language of its people is closely related to Old-English. The country is lead by King Aeflswin with the assistance of the Current PM. The population of Ifaltannia is 2.6 Million.
Long live the Kingdom
-See my factbook for a complete history document.

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