What destroyed the Soviet Union?

[Nazi Flower Power]

You did it, OP. You also killed the glorious leader Kim Yong Un. And you faked the moon landing.

No, I faked the moon landing. I had to stop the Americans from mucking around with space travel before they REALLY got to the moon and discovered the secret Nazi moon base.

[Dracoria]

You did it, OP. You also killed the glorious leader Kim Yong Un. And you faked the moon landing.

No, I faked the moon landing. I had to stop the Americans from mucking around with space travel before they REALLY got to the moon and discovered the secret Nazi moon base.

Always knew those Nazis were a bit luny.

[Wisconsin9]

You did it, OP. You also killed the glorious leader Kim Yong Un. And you faked the moon landing.

No, I faked the moon landing. I had to stop the Americans from mucking around with space travel before they REALLY got to the moon and discovered the secret Nazi moon base.

No you didn't. That was why Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated JFK, remember? The Moon Nazis hired him to take out JFK and thus thwart the Antarctic Nazis from launching an invasion of the Moon. That forced the CIA to fake it.

[Laerod]

No, I faked the moon landing. I had to stop the Americans from mucking around with space travel before they REALLY got to the moon and discovered the secret Nazi moon base.

Always knew those Nazis were a bit luny.

It's not a pun if the etymology of the word actually is "lunar".

[Dracoria]

No, I faked the moon landing. I had to stop the Americans from mucking around with space travel before they REALLY got to the moon and discovered the secret Nazi moon base.

No you didn't. That was why Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated JFK, remember? The Moon Nazis hired him to take out JFK and thus thwart the Antarctic Nazis from launching an invasion of the Moon. That forced the CIA to fake it.

Okay, this is just going too far out there. An Interplanetary Nazi Civil War? That wouldn't happen until they had established more hospitable living space on Earth, probably on the surface due to conflicts with the Mole Men.

[Nazi Flower Power]

No, I faked the moon landing. I had to stop the Americans from mucking around with space travel before they REALLY got to the moon and discovered the secret Nazi moon base.

No you didn't. That was why Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated JFK, remember? The Moon Nazis hired him to take out JFK and thus thwart the Antarctic Nazis from launching an invasion of the Moon. That forced the CIA to fake it.

wut?

I almost snorted Coke on my laptop cos I was laughing so much.

[Nazi Flower Power]

No you didn't. That was why Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated JFK, remember? The Moon Nazis hired him to take out JFK and thus thwart the Antarctic Nazis from launching an invasion of the Moon. That forced the CIA to fake it.

Okay, this is just going too far out there. An Interplanetary Nazi Civil War? That wouldn't happen until they had established more hospitable living space on Earth, probably on the surface due to conflicts with the Mole Men.

Nazis can't have a civil war. Civil wars go against the principles of National Socialism.

[Port Victor]

Because John Carr killed there leader.

[Dracoria]

Okay, this is just going too far out there. An Interplanetary Nazi Civil War? That wouldn't happen until they had established more hospitable living space on Earth, probably on the surface due to conflicts with the Mole Men.

Nazis can't have a civil war. Civil wars go against the principles of National Socialism.

Then you agree! It wouldn't have been the Antactic Nazis and Moon Nazis coming into conflict. There must have been some third power. I'm sure the Soviets were somehow involved.

[Wisconsin9]

No you didn't. That was why Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated JFK, remember? The Moon Nazis hired him to take out JFK and thus thwart the Antarctic Nazis from launching an invasion of the Moon. That forced the CIA to fake it.

Okay, this is just going too far out there. An Interplanetary Nazi Civil War? That wouldn't happen until they had established more hospitable living space on Earth, probably on the surface due to conflicts with the Mole Men.

They were under the Antarctic ice cap. Nothing the Mole Men could do, since they weren't technically underground.

No you didn't. That was why Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated JFK, remember? The Moon Nazis hired him to take out JFK and thus thwart the Antarctic Nazis from launching an invasion of the Moon. That forced the CIA to fake it.

wut?

I almost snorted Coke on my laptop cos I was laughing so much.

Come on, man, I explained this all a long time ago.

Okay, this is just going too far out there. An Interplanetary Nazi Civil War? That wouldn't happen until they had established more hospitable living space on Earth, probably on the surface due to conflicts with the Mole Men.

Nazis can't have a civil war. Civil wars go against the principles of National Socialism.

It was all orchestrated by the Illuminati, in an attempt to wipe out a faction allied with the lizardmen.

Nazis can't have a civil war. Civil wars go against the principles of National Socialism.

Then you agree! It wouldn't have been the Antactic Nazis and Moon Nazis coming into conflict. There must have been some third power. I'm sure the Soviets were somehow involved.

Of course the Soviets were involved. Jack Ruby was a Russian sleeper agent. Come on, guys, this is like Secret World History 101.

[Imperium Sidhicum]

Considering how much of the former Soviet states are still run mostly by the ex-Communist elite in the same corrupt, inefficient manner, I wouldn't even say Soviet Union was really destroyed even though formally that state is gone. The old Soviet ways, however, are still very much alive, made even worse by the introduction of predatory capitalism.

There's a conspiracy theory that Soviet Union never really fell apart, it was merely temporarily dismantled by the Party nomenklatura to await more suitable times for restoration. Being the only people with any grasp of how to run a state, these elites would naturally assume control over the new post-Soviet states, ensuring that nobody too independent would ever get to power while formally maintaining a facade of democracy and disawoving any ties to Communism. These elites and their lackeys would also deliberately mismanage and sell out their countries to cause suffering in the majority of the population and discredit the idea of sovereign statehood, bringing back nostalgia for the old Soviet regime, where life wasn't great, but at least not unbearable either. At an opportune moment, they would strike and restore the Soviet Union to it's former glory in a new form.

Considering the recent actions of a certain president of Russia and his background, as well as the general situation in much of former Soviet nations, I think there's a grain of truth to that theory.

[CTALNH]

And the sex slaves don't forget the sex slaves.

...you're not the guy who said you'd like humanity to conquer space civilizations so you can have alien sex slaves, are you?

I was half joking when I said that.

[Syonanto]

Your Mom.

Actually, I suspect all of the options in the poll played important roles (minus the Jewish option), I think declining oil production was a key factor. Empires generally don't crumble a for a single reason alone and the USSR was no different in this respect. However, the role of energy in modern states is often overlooked.

[The Sotoan Union]

Your Mom.

Actually, I suspect all of the options in the poll played important roles (minus the Jewish option), I think declining oil production was a key factor. Empires generally don't crumble a for a single reason alone and the USSR was no different in this respect. However, the role of energy in modern states is often overlooked.

Much of that was due to Reagan's policies of disurpting the Soviet Union's oil exports.

[Pandeeria]

Considering how much of the former Soviet states are still run mostly by the ex-Communist elite in the same corrupt, inefficient manner, I wouldn't even say Soviet Union was really destroyed even though formally that state is gone. The old Soviet ways, however, are still very much alive, made even worse by the introduction of predatory capitalism.

There's a conspiracy theory that Soviet Union never really fell apart, it was merely temporarily dismantled by the Party nomenklatura to await more suitable times for restoration. Being the only people with any grasp of how to run a state, these elites would naturally assume control over the new post-Soviet states, ensuring that nobody too independent would ever get to power while formally maintaining a facade of democracy and disawoving any ties to Communism. These elites and their lackeys would also deliberately mismanage and sell out their countries to cause suffering in the majority of the population and discredit the idea of sovereign statehood, bringing back nostalgia for the old Soviet regime, where life wasn't great, but at least not unbearable either. At an opportune moment, they would strike and restore the Soviet Union to it's former glory in a new form.

Considering the recent actions of a certain president of Russia and his background, as well as the general situation in much of former Soviet nations, I think there's a grain of truth to that theory.

That's a really interesting theory, and while I do believe there is some molecule of truth in it, it's 99% false.

Perhaps we could call the extremely young, emerging Russian Empire (Crimea was annexed, Russia practically owns Kazahstan's Airforce and air space, they've been militarizing on the border of Belarus and the Baltic's, etc.) a right-wing USSR.

[Shilya]

All of the above, and the upkeep of a military machine to match the larger west, and the general discontent of the people, and the uninvestedness of the people, and corruption, and the mafia, and...


Fuck it, it was the jews.

[The Sotoan Union]

Considering how much of the former Soviet states are still run mostly by the ex-Communist elite in the same corrupt, inefficient manner, I wouldn't even say Soviet Union was really destroyed even though formally that state is gone. The old Soviet ways, however, are still very much alive, made even worse by the introduction of predatory capitalism.

There's a conspiracy theory that Soviet Union never really fell apart, it was merely temporarily dismantled by the Party nomenklatura to await more suitable times for restoration. Being the only people with any grasp of how to run a state, these elites would naturally assume control over the new post-Soviet states, ensuring that nobody too independent would ever get to power while formally maintaining a facade of democracy and disawoving any ties to Communism. These elites and their lackeys would also deliberately mismanage and sell out their countries to cause suffering in the majority of the population and discredit the idea of sovereign statehood, bringing back nostalgia for the old Soviet regime, where life wasn't great, but at least not unbearable either. At an opportune moment, they would strike and restore the Soviet Union to it's former glory in a new form.

Considering the recent actions of a certain president of Russia and his background, as well as the general situation in much of former Soviet nations, I think there's a grain of truth to that theory.

That's a really interesting theory, and while I do believe there is some molecule of truth in it, it's 99% false.

Perhaps we could call the extremely young, emerging Russian Empire (Crimea was annexed, Russia practically owns Kazahstan's Airforce and air space, they've been militarizing on the border of Belarus and the Baltic's, etc.) a right-wing USSR.

Why are we calling modern Russia the USSR just because it's expansive? That'd be like saying that the actual USSR was just a new Russian Empire because the tsars were expansive.

[Pandeeria]

That's a really interesting theory, and while I do believe there is some molecule of truth in it, it's 99% false.

Perhaps we could call the extremely young, emerging Russian Empire (Crimea was annexed, Russia practically owns Kazahstan's Airforce and air space, they've been militarizing on the border of Belarus and the Baltic's, etc.) a right-wing USSR.

Why are we calling modern Russia the USSR just because it's expansive? That'd be like saying that the actual USSR was just a new Russian Empire because the tsars were expansive.

Due to it's authoritarian, inefficient governemnt.

[The Zionist Nation]

You seriously put "It was the Jews" as an option? They've been getting blamed for everything since the Nazis.

[The Sotoan Union]

You seriously put "It was the Jews" as an option? They've been getting blamed for everything since the Nazis.

Tis but a joke.

[Shilya]

You seriously put "It was the Jews" as an option? They've been getting blamed for everything since the Nazis.

You mean, since the romans, at least.

Or do you mean, since and including the nazis? Now that would be an interesting conspiracy. "The jews did nazi germany!"

[OMGeverynameistaken]

That's a really interesting theory, and while I do believe there is some molecule of truth in it, it's 99% false.

Perhaps we could call the extremely young, emerging Russian Empire (Crimea was annexed, Russia practically owns Kazahstan's Airforce and air space, they've been militarizing on the border of Belarus and the Baltic's, etc.) a right-wing USSR.

Why are we calling modern Russia the USSR just because it's expansive? That'd be like saying that the actual USSR was just a new Russian Empire because the tsars were expansive.

The USSR WAS basically a continuation of the Russian Empire under new management.

[UED]

Somehow....

The jews were involved...

[The Sotoan Union]

Why are we calling modern Russia the USSR just because it's expansive? That'd be like saying that the actual USSR was just a new Russian Empire because the tsars were expansive.

The USSR WAS basically a continuation of the Russian Empire under new management.

So then you would refer to these Russian governments as Russia. It doesn't make sense to call modern Russia the USSR when it gets expansive, especially since Russia has always been expansive.

[Dracoria]

The USSR WAS basically a continuation of the Russian Empire under new management.

So then you would refer to these Russian governments as Russia. It doesn't make sense to call modern Russia the USSR when it gets expansive, especially since Russia has always been expansive.

Just skip the middle man and call it the Russian Empire. Federation my butt.