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by The Nihilistic view » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:37 pm
by Cedoria » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:38 pm
by Immoren » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:39 pm
The Nihilistic view wrote:The best and only form of proper government is constitutional monarchy. All else is inherently inferior!!!!!!!!!!!!
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Monkeykind » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:44 pm
by The Orson Empire » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:03 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:It is acceptable.
I'd welcome a return to it for a change, so long as we pick a benevolent dictator to form the new lineage.
Its good if you want firm leadership, national unity, and decisiveness against the forces of evil.
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:04 pm
The Orson Empire wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:It is acceptable.
I'd welcome a return to it for a change, so long as we pick a benevolent dictator to form the new lineage.
Its good if you want firm leadership, national unity, and decisiveness against the forces of evil.
A benevolent dictator will not stay benevolent for long. Giving an incredible amount of power to a single person will inevitably corrupt them. It has been proven over and over again in Human history.
by The Orson Empire » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:08 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:09 pm
The Orson Empire wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
What about Frederick the Great and Emperor Augustus?
Neither of them were benevolent. Even if they were, they would be exceptions, not the rule. While a benevolent dictatorship could go well at first, it is inevitable that someone who is tyrannical would eventually take power.
by Distruzio » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:13 pm
by Seleucas » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:17 pm
by The Orson Empire » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:17 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:The Orson Empire wrote:Neither of them were benevolent. Even if they were, they would be exceptions, not the rule. While a benevolent dictatorship could go well at first, it is inevitable that someone who is tyrannical would eventually take power.
not if we pick someone who's really good at picking successors and so on...
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:19 pm
The Orson Empire wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
not if we pick someone who's really good at picking successors and so on...
And how would we know who that person is? People are generally biased, and so they would pick the person they liked the most, which may not necessarily be the best for the entire country.
This is why the notion of a "benevolent" dictatorship is nonsense.
by Distruzio » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:28 pm
The Orson Empire wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
not if we pick someone who's really good at picking successors and so on...
And how would we know who that person is? People are generally biased, and so they would pick the person they liked the most, which may not necessarily be the best for the entire country.
This is why the notion of a "benevolent" dictatorship is nonsense.
by Fumonoxii » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:33 pm
by Seleucas » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:39 pm
Distruzio wrote:The Orson Empire wrote:And how would we know who that person is? People are generally biased, and so they would pick the person they liked the most, which may not necessarily be the best for the entire country.
This is why the notion of a "benevolent" dictatorship is nonsense.
That doesn't reveal benevolent dictatorships as nonsense. It, instead, reveals a fundamental flaw in the misconception that dictatorship begets meritocracy. In addition it reveals the democratic underpinnings of dictatorships.
by Distruzio » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:42 pm
Seleucas wrote:Distruzio wrote:
That doesn't reveal benevolent dictatorships as nonsense. It, instead, reveals a fundamental flaw in the misconception that dictatorship begets meritocracy. In addition it reveals the democratic underpinnings of dictatorships.
It seems to make a better argument for some sort of technocracy, than it does for either dictatorship or democracy. (How are the people supposed to know enough about everything to know who knows enough to have this delegated responsibility? Especially considering that the point of representation is to have someone who will have a more intimate knowledge of public policy than their constituency?)
by The Glass Hills » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:46 pm
The Francoist Empire wrote:What do you think? Is monarchy acceptable or not?
by Shaggai » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:49 pm
Distruzio wrote:The Orson Empire wrote:And how would we know who that person is? People are generally biased, and so they would pick the person they liked the most, which may not necessarily be the best for the entire country.
This is why the notion of a "benevolent" dictatorship is nonsense.
That doesn't reveal benevolent dictatorships as nonsense. It, instead, reveals a fundamental flaw in the misconception that dictatorship begets meritocracy. In addition it reveals the democratic underpinnings of dictatorships.
by Distruzio » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:53 pm
Shaggai wrote:Distruzio wrote:
That doesn't reveal benevolent dictatorships as nonsense. It, instead, reveals a fundamental flaw in the misconception that dictatorship begets meritocracy. In addition it reveals the democratic underpinnings of dictatorships.
Only if the dictatorships are chosen by that method. To the best of my knowledge, that's never happened.
by Nord Amour » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:55 pm
by The Glass Hills » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:57 pm
Nord Amour wrote:Of course not. Silly, European nationalism can never justify such a barbaric form of government. In modern society, people will almost always rebel against despotism.
by Nord Amour » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:59 pm
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