Firing Squad

[Scomagia]

You've made a false assumption. You assume that he cannot function in any decent society. That, on the face of his crimes only, is not readily apparent.

actually yeah it dose. serial murderers and rapists are psychopaths people who can't feel for others

First, Psychopath is a medical term that I know you aren't qualified to assign. Second, the ability of person to rehabilitate and function in society requires first that the society tries to rehabilitate them. That hasn't happened, so we can't say with any sort of certainty who is or is not able to be rehabilitated.

[West Aurelia]

I believe that death by injection should be the only way of carrying out the death penalty. The other methods are inhumane and the firing squad would deface the person being executed, which honestly shouldn't be done.

[Othelos]

I believe that death by injection should be the only way of carrying out the death penalty. The other methods are inhumane and the firing squad would deface the person being executed, which honestly shouldn't be done.

ironic considering the most humane way of dealing with prisoners is not killing them in the first place.

[Prezelly]

[code][/code]

I believe that death by injection should be the only way of carrying out the death penalty. The other methods are inhumane and the firing squad would deface the person being executed, which honestly shouldn't be done.

ironic considering the most humane way of dealing with prisoners is not killing them in the first place.

Maybe its more humane than letting them rot in a prison?
All a matter of perception

[Othelos]

[code][/code]

ironic considering the most humane way of dealing with prisoners is not killing them in the first place.

Maybe its more humane than letting them rot in a prison?
All a matter of perception

generally, people in favor of the death penalty support it because it's the worst penalty that they can think of.

[Immoren]

I believe that death by injection should be the only way of carrying out the death penalty. The other methods are inhumane and the firing squad would deface the person being executed, which honestly shouldn't be done.

Then there is this.

I'm against the use of Firing Squads, if only because I am aware that in several circles there is a sort of martial dignity associated to it (whether there actually is is of no consequence). If you're going to dispatch a criminal, don't bother pretending to give him dignity.
...

Obviously best way to be executed is with sword.
Like nobles of old would've been. *nods*

[Prezelly]

[code][/code]
Maybe its more humane than letting them rot in a prison?
All a matter of perception

generally, people in favor of the death penalty support it because it's the worst penalty that they can think of.

I support it because people who are in prison for years and wont ever come out are a drain and it is the most cost efficient option

[Shamhnan Insir]

If I ever did deserve to be executed for further crimes against humanity I'd prefer firing squad.
None of this injection stuff.
I also hate the showcase of American death penalty viewing. If your tried and found to be guilty of a crime punishable by death you should be driven to a remote location and shot by a small team selected at random from locals within the community in which you committed the crime. No cameras, no media, nothing. You are to be killed, and not to have your corpse paraded like a trophy.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Why waste good bullet when a guillotine can be used over and over.

[Othelos]

generally, people in favor of the death penalty support it because it's the worst penalty that they can think of.

I support it because people who are in prison for years and wont ever come out are a drain and it is the most cost efficient option

the costs associated with the death penalty are much higher than the cost is to leave them in prison.

[Prezelly]

I support it because people who are in prison for years and wont ever come out are a drain and it is the most cost efficient option

the costs associated with the death penalty are much higher than the cost is to leave them in prison.

That is for the injection and chair.
The cost of a single bullet is relatively low

[Othelos]

the costs associated with the death penalty are much higher than the cost is to leave them in prison.

That is for the injection and chair.
The cost of a single bullet is relatively low

the costs associated, not just the cost of the execution itself.

[Prezelly]

That is for the injection and chair.
The cost of a single bullet is relatively low

the costs associated, not just the cost of the execution itself.

You can eliminate the associated costs of an execution easily.
Even with the associated costs, it is a single payment. A person who is in their twenties spending life in prison will cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep alive. And for what purpose?

[Hladgos]

I don't support any kind of death penalty punishment unless the criminal is a hazard to the safety of guards, citizens, and society, in which case, a lethal blow to the base of the skull with blunt shock from a mechanism would be the most humane and painless, as it shuts off body function and brain activity.

[Othelos]

the costs associated, not just the cost of the execution itself.

You can eliminate the associated costs of an execution easily.

You'd have to get rid of the appeals process, which can't be done easily (and would be pretty stupid).

Even with the associated costs, it is a single payment. A person who is in their twenties spending life in prison will cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep alive.

Which is significantly less than the death penalty cases, which reach into the millions.

And for what purpose?

To keep them separated from society (like every other prisoner).

[Immoren]

the costs associated, not just the cost of the execution itself.

You can eliminate the associated costs of an execution easily.
Even with the associated costs, it is a single payment. A person who is in their twenties spending life in prison will cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep alive. And for what purpose?

"Because its just a sad mistake and statistics, if man we executed turned out to be innocent after all?

[Prezelly]

You can eliminate the associated costs of an execution easily.

You'd have to get rid of the appeals process, which can't be done easily (and would be pretty stupid).

Even with the associated costs, it is a single payment. A person who is in their twenties spending life in prison will cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep alive.

Which is significantly less than the death penalty cases, which reach into the millions.

And for what purpose?

To keep them separated from society (like every other prisoner).

You make some reasonable points.
It should be easier to do things like this but it isn't.
If the system wasn't so flawed we could make this much more cost effective

[Prezelly]

You can eliminate the associated costs of an execution easily.
Even with the associated costs, it is a single payment. A person who is in their twenties spending life in prison will cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep alive. And for what purpose?

"Because its just a sad mistake and statistics, if man we executed turned out to be innocent after all?

Accidents happen. Especially in flawed systems

[Othelos]

You'd have to get rid of the appeals process, which can't be done easily (and would be pretty stupid).


Which is significantly less than the death penalty cases, which reach into the millions.


To keep them separated from society (like every other prisoner).

You make some reasonable points.
It should be easier to do things like this but it isn't.
If the system wasn't so flawed we could make this much more cost effective

It should be extremely difficult, at the very least (but preferably impossible), for the government of a country to kill its own citizens.

Unless, a person is causing harm and the only way to stop them is to kill them.

[Prezelly]

You make some reasonable points.
It should be easier to do things like this but it isn't.
If the system wasn't so flawed we could make this much more cost effective

It should be extremely difficult, at the very least (but preferably impossible), for the government of a country to kill its own citizens.

And this is where we disagree.
If a citizen has broken laws set by the country and ruined the lives of other (presumably) law abiding civilians they should not be kept around. Waste of space and recourses

[Othelos]

It should be extremely difficult, at the very least (but preferably impossible), for the government of a country to kill its own citizens.

And this is where we disagree.
If a citizen has broken laws set by the country and ruined the lives of other (presumably) law abiding civilians they should not be kept around. Waste of space and recourses

As I already explained, it costs more to kill someone than to leave them in a cell. That, by definition, is wasting resources.

[Prezelly]

And this is where we disagree.
If a citizen has broken laws set by the country and ruined the lives of other (presumably) law abiding civilians they should not be kept around. Waste of space and recourses

As I already explained, it costs more to kill someone than to leave them in a cell. That, by definition, is wasting resources.

I am saying if it were easier we should do it more often and that it should be easier.

[Othelos]

As I already explained, it costs more to kill someone than to leave them in a cell. That, by definition, is wasting resources.

I am saying if it were easier we should do it more often and that it should be easier.

like I said, we'd have to get rid of the appeals process.

[Rephesus]

Firing squads are unethical and inhumane. I'm not against capital punishment, but not by a bullet. I would only support it in a painless way that doesn't desecrate the body, such as an injection.

[Prezelly]

I am saying if it were easier we should do it more often and that it should be easier.

like I said, we'd have to get rid of the appeals process.

Or reform it.