Smacking Your Children is Good For Them

[Ashmoria]

Children should be disciplined. I was spanked as a child, if I wilfully and continuously disobeyed my parents. I wasn't a particularly 'naughty' child, but I linked disobeying them with the discomfort of 'a good hiding', so I stopped, and listened to what they said. I am glad they did (for they are very wise), and I will certainly treat my own children (if I ever have any) with the same loving chastisement.

They didn't want to hurt me, but 'the burned hand teaches best'. I think parental spanking is sometimes necessary as a good way of disciplining a child. Not by teachers or strangers, however. The responsibility lies with the parents.

sure

but kids like you would have responded just as well to a number of other non-hitting punishments.

if you don't have to hit your kid in order to have him behave, why do so?

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

I disagree with the extremity of their statement, but I do think that a little discipline is good for the child.

[Kiruri]

Children should be disciplined. I was spanked as a child, if I wilfully and continuously disobeyed my parents. I wasn't a particularly 'naughty' child, but I linked disobeying them with the discomfort of 'a good hiding', so I stopped, and listened to what they said. I am glad they did (for they are very wise), and I will certainly treat my own children (if I ever have any) with the same loving chastisement.

They didn't want to hurt me, but 'the burned hand teaches best'. I think parental spanking is sometimes necessary as a good way of disciplining a child. Not by teachers or strangers, however. The responsibility lies with the parents.

sure

but kids like you would have responded just as well to a number of other non-hitting punishments.

if you don't have to hit your kid in order to have him behave, why do so?

Exactly.. and I would go as far as saying that any other non physical/corporal punishment would have had better results than the physical/corporal one.

[Soltirea]

A little smack on the rump for doing something wrong is not abuse, I was raised this way and I ain't done a illegal thing in my life XD

It all depends on how forceful and you do it really, Punish them via removing liberties or like I said a smack on the rump, if the cuss use hot sauce.

But then again, seeing as our current youth generation are "rasta" or what ever else and see anyform of correction by their parents as abuse (including removing the use of cellphones. Honestly kids started crying XD )...this argument is invalid.

So you are ignoring the ample evidence to the contrary as well?

And have you not seen our current, drug taking, no sense of right or wrong generation?

Most kids in the highschools in the US, to drugs, ranging for weed to cocaine. Believe me when I say, smacking a kid on the ass for doing something wrong is not such a bad idea. Researchers proved that using a open hand, and hitting on the ass is a non-abusive form of discipline.

Or are people to bent on that "Oh abuse is any form of physical contact"?

[Maineiacs]

So you are ignoring the ample evidence to the contrary as well?

And have you not seen our current, drug taking, no sense of right or wrong generation?

Most kids in the highschools in the US, to drugs, ranging for weed to cocaine. Believe me when I say, smacking a kid on the ass for doing something wrong is not such a bad idea. Researchers proved that using a open hand, and hitting on the ass is a non-abusive form of discipline.

Or are people to bent on that "Oh abuse is any form of physical contact"?

What researchers? Where was this study published?

[Soltirea]

And have you not seen our current, drug taking, no sense of right or wrong generation?

Most kids in the highschools in the US, to drugs, ranging for weed to cocaine. Believe me when I say, smacking a kid on the ass for doing something wrong is not such a bad idea. Researchers proved that using a open hand, and hitting on the ass is a non-abusive form of discipline.

Or are people to bent on that "Oh abuse is any form of physical contact"?

What researchers? Where was this study published?

U.S. Supreme court, United States Department of Health and Human Services, CDC, and a multitude of independent researchers. It's called GOOGLE, or go to a library.

[Ashmoria]

sure

but kids like you would have responded just as well to a number of other non-hitting punishments.

if you don't have to hit your kid in order to have him behave, why do so?

Exactly.. and I would go as far as saying that any other non physical/corporal punishment would have had better results than the physical/corporal one.

i do too.

but even if the results were exactly the same, why choose the method that requires you hitting your child?

[Ashmoria]

So you are ignoring the ample evidence to the contrary as well?

And have you not seen our current, drug taking, no sense of right or wrong generation?

Most kids in the highschools in the US, to drugs, ranging for weed to cocaine. Believe me when I say, smacking a kid on the ass for doing something wrong is not such a bad idea. Researchers proved that using a open hand, and hitting on the ass is a non-abusive form of discipline.

Or are people to bent on that "Oh abuse is any form of physical contact"?

only the very worst parents spank their highschool aged children. *shudder*

[Maineiacs]

What researchers? Where was this study published?

U.S. Supreme court, United States Department of Health and Human Services, CDC, and a multitude of independent researchers. It's called GOOGLE, or go to a library.

Actually, it's called "you claim it, you source it." The onus is on you to back up your claim.

[Geilinor]

Hitting children prevents them from committing suicide? That argument doesn't follow at all.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Hitting children prevents them from committing suicide? That argument doesn't follow at all.

it acclimatize them to misery.

[Maineiacs]

Hitting children prevents them from committing suicide? That argument doesn't follow at all.

It had quite nearly the opposite effect on me.

[Themiclesia]

I don't think smacking is a good idea in a modern setting; sure, in a world where blood-letting is cure for almost everything, smacking may seem a good cure for children.

If parents are not able to educate their children without smacking them, they ought not have any in the first place. Though unlikely, smacking can still risk injury. Furthermore, smacking is still illegal -- it can be construed as assault.

[Betoni]

What researchers? Where was this study published?

U.S. Supreme court, United States Department of Health and Human Services, CDC, and a multitude of independent researchers. It's called GOOGLE, or go to a library.

https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=us+supreme+court+%2Bopen+hand+%2Bhitting+on+the+ass&gws_rd=ssl
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=United+States+Department+of+Health+and+Human+Services+%2Bopen+hand+%2Bhitting+on+the+ass
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=CDC+%2Bopen+hand+%2Bhitting+on+the+ass

While I got some interesting results from google, it didn't come up with any hits on research. But maybe that is just me and the way google has personalized their searches for me. Care to try it for yourself and perhaps provide directs links to these research papers?

[Aequalitia]

Hitting children prevents them from committing suicide? That argument doesn't follow at all.

Those 'research' who is based in conservative and moral lies can't be more sarcastic.

In fact, using violence to your child(ren) causing only more they be triggered to be depressed, feeling failed and try suicide, or use drugs, and go so on how awful it works.

[Of Moravecs]

I disagree with the extremity of their statement, but I do think that a little discipline is good for the child.

"Discipline" and "corporal punishment" aren't identical; indeed they're not particularly related.

[Costa Fierro]

I've opposed the anti-smacking bill since day one.

To be honest, if the individual candidates weren't such nutjobs and if not for my refusal to vote for third parties, I would seriously consider voting for the Conservatives. They're definitely on the money when it comes to stuff like this - something that National used to be but aren't any more.

Also, drunk on NSG. I apologise in advance.

This is explains why you said you'd vote for the Conservatives.

[Geilinor]

I've opposed the anti-smacking bill since day one.

To be honest, if the individual candidates weren't such nutjobs and if not for my refusal to vote for third parties, I would seriously consider voting for the Conservatives. They're definitely on the money when it comes to stuff like this - something that National used to be but aren't any more.

Also, drunk on NSG. I apologise in advance.

This is explains why you said you'd vote for the Conservatives.

"They want to get into government so they can hit their children!" must be campaign gold against the Conservatives.

[Costa Fierro]

Hitting children prevents them from committing suicide? That argument doesn't follow at all.

Well, the man is an idiot. But I also read somewhere that the supposed anti-smacking law doesn't actually prevent parents from using corporal punishment in New Zealand. It just prevents parents from using "reasonable force" in child abuse prosecutions.

[Dalcaria]

Just want to make a point here, I was considering suicide as a child BECAUSE I was "smacked" by my father. This man's an idiot, and I'm going to step away from being politically correct and say that I would have this man executed by firing squad. He should be glad I'm not in power in his country.

[Geilinor]

Just want to make a point here, I was considering suicide as a child BECAUSE I was "smacked" by my father. This man's an idiot, and I'm going to step away from being politically correct and say that I would have this man executed by firing squad. He should be glad I'm not in power in his country.

Executed by firing squad? Isn't that just a little harsh?

[Asyir]

I believe it is not the governments place to tell me how I raise my children. Granted I rarely resort to any form of physical punishments(spankings)especially because my kids are usually well behaved.

I can only recall one instance in which I went beyond spanking. My two boys were fighting when I got home from work one day, and they were literally just beating on each other. After numerous attempts of pulling them apart/ordering them to stop/etc. I smacked both them, and they immediately ceased and went to their respective rooms.

Granted there is a fine line between abuse and physical punishment. I don't think parents should smack their children with a frying pan(my mothers favorite) or spank them with them with the brass end of a belt(fathers method). A slap and a spanking are fine.

[Mundiferrum]

Just want to make a point here, I was considering suicide as a child BECAUSE I was "smacked" by my father. This man's an idiot, and I'm going to step away from being politically correct and say that I would have this man executed by firing squad. He should be glad I'm not in power in his country.

The quotation marks in your "smacked" suggests that, as commonly accepted in much of this debate, what you mean by "smack" is actually "child abuse"....

[Lippy]

I was never smacked and I still behaved.

this.

[Czeckolutania]

I don't know, that whole taking away privileges thing never worked on me. I just did as I pleased anyway, I knew I wouldn't be punished in any serious way and that the only reproduction for disobeying their punishment was to have more privileges taken away and to be scolded... After a while i just started tuning out scoldings, and I ignored them revoking my privileges from day one. They tried scare tactics, but not being an idiot I knew I was violating no laws so the "scared straight" program had no effect on me. When I was sent to live with my grandparents (who did "smack" me) I shaped up almost immediately. The sting of the belt is far more effective and in the long term less damaging that other methods.