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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:43 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Well, the Crimea referendum is like the Austrian Anschluss referendum and is being used as a pretext to annex territory.

I don't know about the Anschluss.
Was it originally part of the unified German state and if so, was it ceded after WWI?


Since the Anschluss applied to all of Austria, no. It was firmly the central component of the Austro-Hungarian Empire pre-WWI, after which it became independent. Silesia was, at one point around 1871, part of Prussia, but it doesn't seem to have included any of modern day Czechoslovakia (even Sudentenland).
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:48 pm

Communal Ecotopia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I don't know about the Anschluss.
Was it originally part of the unified German state and if so, was it ceded after WWI?


Since the Anschluss applied to all of Austria, no. It was firmly the central component of the Austro-Hungarian Empire pre-WWI, after which it became independent. Silesia was, at one point around 1871, part of Prussia, but it doesn't seem to have included any of modern day Czechoslovakia (even Sudentenland).


Alright. Not quite. The Hlucin region of Czechoslovakia was German. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hlu%C4%8D%C3%ADn_Region
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Postby Estenia » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:02 pm

Great Kleomentia wrote:
Estenia wrote:Russia will be fucked off by NATO, if they do that.

Actually it would be a pretty fair fight, strenght-wise. One i hope i won't live to see.

USA, Great Britain, France, Germany the main powers of NATO against a sole superpower Russia, Russia will be crushed.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:05 pm

Communal Ecotopia wrote:
Communal Ecotopia wrote:
Since the Anschluss applied to all of Austria, no. It was firmly the central component of the Austro-Hungarian Empire pre-WWI, after which it became independent. Silesia was, at one point around 1871, part of Prussia, but it doesn't seem to have included any of modern day Czechoslovakia (even Sudentenland).


Alright. Not quite. The Hlucin region of Czechoslovakia was German. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hlu%C4%8D%C3%ADn_Region

Hlucin was a part of the Sudetenland acquisition wasn't it?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:10 pm

Estenia wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:Actually it would be a pretty fair fight, strenght-wise. One i hope i won't live to see.

USA, Great Britain, France, Germany the main powers of NATO against a sole superpower Russia, Russia will be crushed.

Which is why the Russians will resort to tactical nuclear power. Since it's literally pointless to escalate to strategic nuclear exchange unless you are Russia and launching first, the western powers will not do so themselves and will reciprocate with the 180 B-61 tactical nuclear bombs in Europe and shift some of the remainder of the 400-bomb total stock into Europe for top-up.

Nuclear Tomahawks, what few variants remain, will be loaded aboard naval vessels, naval aircraft and strategic bombers.

Contrary to popular belief, "MAD" and strategic nuclear arsenals as deterrents only really work in the event of strategic nuclear exchange. A long-range strike by a country such as North Korea or Iran would functionally count as "strategic" exchange.
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:15 pm

Estenia wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:Actually it would be a pretty fair fight, strenght-wise. One i hope i won't live to see.

USA, Great Britain, France, Germany the main powers of NATO against a sole superpower Russia, Russia will be crushed.

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Estenia wrote:USA, Great Britain, France, Germany the main powers of NATO against a sole superpower Russia, Russia will be crushed.

Which is why the Russians will resort to tactical nuclear power. Since it's literally pointless to escalate to strategic nuclear exchange unless you are Russia and launching first, the western powers will not do so themselves and will reciprocate with the 180 B-61 tactical nuclear bombs in Europe and shift some of the remainder of the 400-bomb total stock into Europe for top-up.

Nuclear Tomahawks, what few variants remain, will be loaded aboard naval vessels, naval aircraft and strategic bombers.

Contrary to popular belief, "MAD" and strategic nuclear arsenals as deterrents only really work in the event of strategic nuclear exchange. A long-range strike by a country such as North Korea or Iran would functionally count as "strategic" exchange.

I don't think i have anything to add to that.
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Postby Baltenstein » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:17 pm

Estenia wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:Actually it would be a pretty fair fight, strenght-wise. One i hope i won't live to see.

USA, Great Britain, France, Germany the main powers of NATO against a sole superpower Russia, Russia will be crushed.


The Turkish military would probably provide a far more important contribution than the British, French and especially the German one.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:18 pm

Golden Horde gonna Golden Horde (aka threaten loudly for money and other things). Sadly, nothing new on that front.
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:19 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
Estenia wrote:USA, Great Britain, France, Germany the main powers of NATO against a sole superpower Russia, Russia will be crushed.


The Turkish military would probably provide a far more important contribution than the British, French and especially the German one.

Many people don't realize that European "forces" really aren't as OP as they seem.
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Take it to the megathread, per favore. Thanks.

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