Russia threatens nuclear war against all NATO members

[NeuPolska]

I could see it happening, Putin is basically Chuck Norris and Hitler in one crazy package.

He's too sane to follow through. It's like threatening to ram your car into another car when you're driving a Ferrari, everyone knows you're not really going to wreck a Ferrari just to prove a point.

I love that analogy

[Shamhnan Insir]

And whilst they throw words at each other, Ukraine is still being shelled. Pro-Kremlin youth camps also sound like an echo of a rather dark part of human history.

[Quelsh]

I would laugh at Russia if they fired nukes. Then again, I might be dead by the time I heard about it.

[Garwall]

Putin isn't stupid enough to kill millions for a fucking piece of land not even the size of Rhode Island.

Stop sensationalizing this bullcrap.

Rhode Island thanks you for being mentioned in the same sentence as things actually important to the world. But seriously, this seems more like posturing than anything else. If Russia doesn't flash an ICBM in the West's face every so often, they start getting afraid we might forget Russia has nukes.

[Conserative Morality]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/11064209/Vladimir-Putin-Dont-mess-with-nuclear-armed-Russia.html

This should remind everyone why it is important that no American, British, German, French, Canadian, or other NATO soldiers ever set foot inside Ukraine.

This is the first time in recent decades that Russia has threatened to launch a nuclear holocaust upon the NATO alliance.

We might be opposed to what Russia is doing in Ukraine but are we willing to destroy the planet just to stop them from carving the country up?

It's important that we cave into empty posturing by a Russian strongman upset over not getting his way with the smaller countries neighboring his?

[Planita]

And whilst they throw words at each other, Ukraine is still being shelled. Pro-Kremlin youth camps also sound like an echo of a rather dark part of human history.

*Hitler Youth* *cough* *cough*

[The High Lords]

Well... Russia does what Russia does. Get over it. If you don't want to be nuked, just stay out of it.

[Pope Joan]

Obama and the West keep ratcheting up the sanctions (after creating the Kiev situation in the first place).

It's fair that they be reminded of the available plays in this game.

A nuclear exchange over Ukraine?

That's not an available play. It's suicide.

It is comparable to our stance relative to Cuba. It is nearby, and we resent interference. The Bay of Pigs was a close call.

[Padnak]

Its posturing to try and keep the west of balance

By sensationalizing it we're only playing into his hands. Putin's far from stupid, hes playing the long game with the Ukraine and his short term strategy is to keep the west unsure of his plans by acting aggressively at one turn then passively at the other. Before it was with the aid convoy, now its with this business.

The only way that the west can stop putin is by matching his brinkmanship and doing something themselves. I'm not normally an advocate of military force, but if NATO stationed forces within the Ukraine while also opening up talks with the separatists this entire crisis could be ended. Then we go take care of ISIS...

[Celesburg]

"Sends a proposal to my homecountry's parliament to leave the NATO."

[Alaskan Democratic Federative Republic]

People these days.....

Listen you sheep, if Ukraine joins NATO or the EU they would be putting missles on Russia doorstep look at NATO missles they are in Turkey, France Germany and some former Soviet nations, I would the US react if they put missiles in Cuba, or Mexico they'll be outrage it'll be a missle crisis again that happened in the early 60s.

[Geilinor]

We already know you have nukes, Putin, you don't need to remind us.

[Geilinor]

People these days.....

Listen you sheep, if Ukraine joins NATO or the EU they would be putting missles on Russia doorstep look at NATO missles are at Turkey, Francde Germany and some former Soviet nations, I would the US react if they put missiles in Cuba, or Mexico they'll be outrage it'll be a missle crisis again that happened in the early 60s.

Ukraine can apply to join NATO and the EU, but its military and economy are not in a state to join.

[Conserative Morality]

People these days.....

Listen you sheep, if Ukraine joins NATO or the EU they would be putting missles on Russia doorstep look at NATO missles they are in Turkey, Francde Germany and some former Soviet nations, I would the US react if they put missiles in Cuba, or Mexico they'll be outrage it'll be a missle crisis again that happened in the early 60s.

We haven't been interested in intimidating Russia with missiles since Ronnie Ray-gun. Give up the Cold War mentality.

[Asyir]

Putin wouldn't dare use nuclear weapons, we would just respond back. And destroy the Earth in the process. It's a political stunt to throw the west off from Putin's true plans, whatever they may be...

[Burleson]

Well... Russia does what Russia does. Get over it. If you don't want to be nuked, just stay out of it.

Replace the word 'Russia' with 'the KKK' and the word 'nuked' with 'lynched'. Now do you get it?

[Rebellious Fishermen]

Well... Russia does what Russia does. Get over it. If you don't want to be nuked, just stay out of it.

Replace the word Russia with the KKK and the word nuked with lynched. Now do you get it?

That's actually a pretty effective example.

[PC World News]

Is it just me, or does Putin in the article look like he is about to rap?

And, to not drift entirely off topic, I agree that Putin has LOST HIS MIND!

Let us reflect on the History of Russia...

Russia, 20th Century:
"Me and you have weapons of mass destruction, so lets not use them to end humanity"

Russia, 21st Century,
"Me and you have weapons of mass destruction, so let's not use them to end humanity UKRAINE!

[Planita]

Is it just me, or does Putin in the article look like he is about to rap?

And, to not drift entirely off topic, I agree that Putin has LOST HIS MIND!

Let us reflect on the History of Russia...

Russia, 20th Century:
"Me and you have weapons of mass destruction, so lets not use them to end humanity"

Russia, 21st Century,
"Me and you have weapons of mass destruction, so let's not use them to end humanity UKRAINE!

[Kelmet]

That's really the only play Russia's got, NATO is so much more conventionally powerful than them so they have to rely on having the largest nuke stockpile on earth

[Rebellious Fishermen]

That's really the only play Russia's got, NATO is so much more conventionally powerful than them so they have to rely on having the largest nuke stockpile on earth

That's a pretty big ace up their sleeve.

[Alaskan Democratic Federative Republic]

People these days.....

Listen you sheep, if Ukraine joins NATO or the EU they would be putting missles on Russia doorstep look at NATO missles they are in Turkey, Francde Germany and some former Soviet nations, I would the US react if they put missiles in Cuba, or Mexico they'll be outrage it'll be a missle crisis again that happened in the early 60s.

We haven't been interested in intimidating Russia with missiles since Ronnie Ray-gun. Give up the Cold War mentality.

Are you sure we haven't gave up that mentality then why are there U.S. Bases all around Russia and China they been surrounding them with bases during and after the Cold War the West has been to aggressive they have destabilize the Middle East and other parts of the world.

[Celesburg]

Is it just me, or does Putin in the article look like he is about to rap?

And, to not drift entirely off topic, I agree that Putin has LOST HIS MIND!

Let us reflect on the History of Russia...

Russia, 20th Century:
"Me and you have weapons of mass destruction, so lets not use them to end humanity"

Russia, 21st Century,
"Me and you have weapons of mass destruction, so let's not use them to end humanity UKRAINE!

Yes Ukraine is in the NATO.

[Imperializt Russia]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/11064209/Vladimir-Putin-Dont-mess-with-nuclear-armed-Russia.html

This should remind everyone why it is important that no American, British, German, French, Canadian, or other NATO soldiers ever set foot inside Ukraine.

This is the first time in recent decades that Russia has threatened to launch a nuclear holocaust upon the NATO alliance.

We might be opposed to what Russia is doing in Ukraine but are we willing to destroy the planet just to stop them from carving the country up?

Russia has had words to the effect of "we will be willing to escalate to limited nuclear exchange in face of conventional aggression" as stated defence policy for well over a decade.

This isn't technically news.
He's threatening MAD because that'll terrify those who don't want war or intervention anyway. MAD isn't strictly the risk in war in Europe, tactical nuclear exchange is. The US maintains a stockpile for European air forces, in Europe, of 180 B-61 nuclear gravity bombs of various developments - transitioning to the Mod 11 and Mod 12 variants which offer essentially, standoff nuclear JDAM glide bomb.
B-61 can be dialled up to 300kt, approximate to older warheads for the Trident strategic SLBM, and others carried on weapons like Minuteman ICBM.

Russia maintains a stock of theatre ballistic missiles, all nuclear capable, such as Iskander, Spider, FROG-7 etc.

It would only be likely to escalate to full strategic exchange if "battle for East Ukraine" terms into "war for East Europe" or the full whack of "European Ground War".
There is absolutely nothing to be gained escalating straight from tactical nuclear exchange to strategic nuclear exchange.

[Geilinor]

That's really the only play Russia's got, NATO is so much more conventionally powerful than them so they have to rely on having the largest nuke stockpile on earth

That's a pretty big ace up their sleeve.

NATO has nukes too, it's not an ace at all.