Can Rand Paul beat Hillary?

[Lavan Tiri]

The real question is, what will he beat her with?

It's a legitimate question! Baseball bats won't get past security, and wrenches are too small. So he'd have to use a coffee table or something.

[Freiheit Reich]

The real question is, what will he beat her with?

He can beat her with superior political views and a well run campaign.

[The Black Forrest]

He can beat her with superior political views and a well run campaign.

Not going to happen. He does things like sprint from dangerous questions ala the two Dream people questioning the stance on immigration and trying to say "oh but I had another interview"

He is trying the Regan route of talking as though he never said something but he doesn't have the chops to pull it off.

For example, when he started out he was all about foreign entanglements and de-funding Israel. Talked about how well they can handle themselves, etc.

Now, he is the best friend and always has been the stalwart supporter......

[Freiheit Reich]

He can beat her with superior political views and a well run campaign.

Not going to happen. He does things like sprint from dangerous questions ala the two Dream people questioning the stance on immigration and trying to say "oh but I had another interview"

He is trying the Regan route of talking as though he never said something but he doesn't have the chops to pull it off.

For example, when he started out he was all about foreign entanglements and de-funding Israel. Talked about how well they can handle themselves, etc.

Now, he is the best friend and always has been the stalwart supporter......

I am concerned about him and he is starting to seem like just another politician that cares more about popularity than protecting freedoms. He is not as good as Ron Paul but he is still better than Hillary (which is not that hard actually).

Sadly, a true libertarian can't win an election because the idea of people being responsible for their own actions and being treated like mature adults scares most voters. Imagine-freedom scares people! A true libertarian will be lucky to get 2% of the US vote. Another reason is because Americans are slaves to the D/R system (2 party) and forget that they have the right to vote for another party.

The Simpsons episode regarding the 2 aliens running against each other perfectly showed this. Even when people found out it was evil aliens running for president, they still voted for one of them because they refused to vote for an alternative party.

[Death Metal]

He can beat her with superior political views and a well run campaign.

Not going to happen. He does things like sprint from dangerous questions ala the two Dream people questioning the stance on immigration and trying to say "oh but I had another interview"

He is trying the Regan route of talking as though he never said something but he doesn't have the chops to pull it off.

For example, when he started out he was all about foreign entanglements and de-funding Israel. Talked about how well they can handle themselves, etc.

Now, he is the best friend and always has been the stalwart supporter......

Indeed. Like I said, he's spineless.

Which I guess explains why people would vote for the Constitution Party over the Pauls. Both sides are dominionists who seek to systematically rob people of their civil freedoms through the (statist) doctrine of "state's rights". But at least the likes of Virgil Goode are somewhat honest about it.

[The Liberated Territories]

Sadly, a true libertarian can't win an election because the idea of people being responsible for their own actions and being treated like mature adults scares most voters. Imagine-freedom scares people! A true libertarian will be lucky to get 2% of the US vote. Another reason is because Americans are slaves to the D/R system (2 party) and forget that they have the right to vote for another party.

You aren't helping...

[Death Metal]

Sadly, a true libertarian can't win an election because the idea of people being responsible for their own actions and being treated like mature adults scares most voters. Imagine-freedom scares people! A true libertarian will be lucky to get 2% of the US vote. Another reason is because Americans are slaves to the D/R system (2 party) and forget that they have the right to vote for another party.

You aren't helping...

The louder he cries "FOR FREEDOMZ~!" the more he helps the dominionists.

Or as Alexander Hamilton would have put it...

An enlightened zeal for the energy and efficiency of government will be stigmatized as the offspring of a temper fond of despotic power and hostile to the principles of liberty... a dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the forbidden appearance of zeal for the firmness and efficiency of government. History will teach us that the former has been found a much more certain road to the introduction of despotism than the latter, and that of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people; commencing demagogues, and ending tyrants.

Really, though, all sides are at least somewhat guilty of that particular kind of appeal to emotion (and yes, appeal to liberty is an appeal to emotion). If politicians did away with such sinister tactics we'd be much better off.

[The Black Forrest]

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Sadly, a true libertarian can't win an election because the idea of people being responsible for their own actions and being treated like mature adults scares most voters. Imagine-freedom scares people! A true libertarian will be lucky to get 2% of the US vote. Another reason is because Americans are slaves to the D/R system (2 party) and forget that they have the right to vote for another party.

That attitude is why libertarians will never hold significant offices.

[Farnhamia]

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Sadly, a true libertarian can't win an election because the idea of people being responsible for their own actions and being treated like mature adults scares most voters. Imagine-freedom scares people! A true libertarian will be lucky to get 2% of the US vote. Another reason is because Americans are slaves to the D/R system (2 party) and forget that they have the right to vote for another party.

That attitude is why libertarians will never significant offices.

They seem to think "Wake up, sheeple!" is a great stump speech.

[The Black Forrest]

That attitude is why libertarians will never significant offices.

They seem to think "Wake up, sheeple!" is a great stump speech.

Indeed. The funny thing is those that use that phrase think they are being original. I remember the liberts having it in print when I was at Uni. They had this silly test where basically everybody was a libert to some degree......

[Farnhamia]

They seem to think "Wake up, sheeple!" is a great stump speech.

Indeed. The funny thing is those that use that phrase think they are being original. I remember the liberts having it in print when I was at Uni. They had this silly test where basically everybody was a libert to some degree......

"Pardon me, sir or madame, do you believe that people have rights?"
"Yes, certainly."
"And do you enjoy paying taxes?"
"Well, no, I mean, no one ..."
"YOU'RE A LIBERTARIAN!"

[Northwest Slobovia]

That attitude is why libertarians will never significant offices.

They seem to think "Wake up, sheeple!" is a great stump speech.

Huh, I thought that was a popular one across all sorts of fringe groups.

[Death Metal]

They seem to think "Wake up, sheeple!" is a great stump speech.

Indeed. The funny thing is those that use that phrase think they are being original. I remember the liberts having it in print when I was at Uni. They had this silly test where basically everybody was a libert to some degree......

It's almost like they have a herd mentality, doesn't it?

[Death Metal]

They seem to think "Wake up, sheeple!" is a great stump speech.

Indeed. The funny thing is those that use that phrase think they are being original. I remember the liberts having it in print when I was at Uni. They had this silly test where basically everybody was a libert to some degree......

libertarianism: where 1984 is an instruction manual and scientology is a business model.

[Freiheit Reich]

You aren't helping...

The louder he cries "FOR FREEDOMZ~!" the more he helps the dominionists.

Or as Alexander Hamilton would have put it...

An enlightened zeal for the energy and efficiency of government will be stigmatized as the offspring of a temper fond of despotic power and hostile to the principles of liberty... a dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the forbidden appearance of zeal for the firmness and efficiency of government. History will teach us that the former has been found a much more certain road to the introduction of despotism than the latter, and that of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people; commencing demagogues, and ending tyrants.

Really, though, all sides are at least somewhat guilty of that particular kind of appeal to emotion (and yes, appeal to liberty is an appeal to emotion). If politicians did away with such sinister tactics we'd be much better off.

So you like the fact that Americans put more people in prison than most other nations? You like the fact that politicians are taking away civil liberties with such laws as the Patriot Act?

Why do so many Americans dislike freedom?

[Freiheit Reich]

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Sadly, a true libertarian can't win an election because the idea of people being responsible for their own actions and being treated like mature adults scares most voters. Imagine-freedom scares people! A true libertarian will be lucky to get 2% of the US vote. Another reason is because Americans are slaves to the D/R system (2 party) and forget that they have the right to vote for another party.

That attitude is why libertarians will never hold significant offices.

Why? Would be better to admit that Americans need to be treated like children?

[The Black Forrest]

That attitude is why libertarians will never hold significant offices.

Why? Would be better to admit that Americans need to be treated like children?

Let's put in a perspective you may understand. *dons libertarian hat*

WHY WON'T YOU WHINY LITTLE BITCHES VOTE FOR ME!!!!!!!

[Death Metal]

Why? Would be better to admit that Americans need to be treated like children?

Let's put in a perspective you may understand. *dons libertarian hat*

WHY WON'T YOU WHINY LITTLE BITCHES VOTE FOR ME!!!!!!!

It's like a restaurant owner throwing batteries at people who tell him is food is terrible, and when his neighbor points out he's losing customers because he throws batteries at people, he responds by throwing a car battery through his neighbor's window.

[Freiheit Reich]

Why? Would be better to admit that Americans need to be treated like children?

Let's put in a perspective you may understand. *dons libertarian hat*

WHY WON'T YOU WHINY LITTLE BITCHES VOTE FOR ME!!!!!!!

Watch the language, let's be civil.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Let's put in a perspective you may understand. *dons libertarian hat*

WHY WON'T YOU WHINY LITTLE BITCHES VOTE FOR ME!!!!!!!

Watch the language, let's be civil.

This is NSG, we couldn't be civil if we tried.

[Quaxoglia]

I dunno. I'll vote for the Greens.

[Death Metal]

Watch the language, let's be civil.

This is NSG,

Wrong. This is Sparta, Ontario.

[Death Metal]

I dunno. I'll vote for the Greens.

Too agrarian, too heavy-handed economically. If you're gonna go for a leftist third party at least choose the Social Dems.

[Valica]

He can beat her with superior political views and a well run campaign.

I like jokes, too.

[Sdaeriji]

The Simpsons episode regarding the 2 aliens running against each other perfectly showed this. Even when people found out it was evil aliens running for president, they still voted for one of them because they refused to vote for an alternative party.

You may be shocked to learn that that episode was not based on historical events.