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How do you feel about transgender persons?

I have no problem with it.
339
54%
It's a little odd but it's none of my business.
173
27%
It makes me uncomfortable.
34
5%
I think it's wrong and/or unnatural.
86
14%
 
Total votes : 632

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Veceria
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Postby Veceria » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:00 pm

Conkerials wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Only a Sith speaks in absolutes. :p

Is that not an absolute? ;)

I always thought it was ironic.
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Then suddenly fights broke out because hey, it's the internet.

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:01 pm

Transgender to cookies. Interesting.

Yes very.
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Conkerials
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Postby Conkerials » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:01 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Conkerials wrote:Is that not an absolute? ;)

*Kills Conkerials with lightning*

Yes.

Does this make Obi-Wan a sith?
Anyways, back on topic
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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:02 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Sun Wukong stopped liking me. :P

I still adore and admire you though.
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Veceria
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Postby Veceria » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:03 pm

Mesrane wrote:Transgender to cookies. Interesting.

Yes very.

Some people needed a break before their head exploded, so we gave them one.
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Zeth Rekia wrote:You making Zeno horny.

DesAnges wrote:People don't deserve respect, they earn it.

10,000,000th post.
FoxTropica wrote:And then Hurdegaryp kissed Thafoo, Meanwhile Fox-Mary-"Sue"-Tropica saved TET from destruction and everyone happily forever.

Then suddenly fights broke out because hey, it's the internet.

Hurd is Hurd is Hurd.
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Postby Mesrane » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:04 pm

Veceria wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Transgender to cookies. Interesting.

Yes very.

Some people needed a break before their head exploded, so we gave them one.

Mhmm.
Obligatory pros and antis:
Pro: Libertarianism, Protestantism, Gay Rights, 2nd Amendment, Scottish and Welsh Independence, Free Market
Anti: Communism, Socialism, General Authoritarianism, Welfare State, Feminism, EU, Controlled Economy, Gun Control, Justin Bieber, Utter Ridiculousness


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Degenerate Heart of HetRio
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:05 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Sun Wukong stopped liking me. :P

I still adore and admire you though.

Awwwwww :3
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Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

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S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:10 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Conkerials wrote:But only the dark side has cookies.

Untruth. Sugar cookies are the undisputed tool of light.

Get with it :p


What about snicker-doodle cookies?
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Isles of the United Armed Forces
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Postby Isles of the United Armed Forces » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:13 pm

Honestly i have no problems with it, people should be able to express themselves however they like even if its not commonly accepted by others.
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The Count of Monte Cristo
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Postby The Count of Monte Cristo » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:17 pm

Isles of the United Armed Forces wrote:Honestly i have no problems with it, people should be able to express themselves how ever they like even if its not commonly accepted by others.


Brace to get love-bombed.

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Postby Isles of the United Armed Forces » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:18 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Isles of the United Armed Forces wrote:Honestly i have no problems with it, people should be able to express themselves how ever they like even if its not commonly accepted by others.


Brace to get love-bombed.

Love bombed?
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Conkerials
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Postby Conkerials » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:19 pm

Isles of the United Armed Forces wrote:
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Brace to get love-bombed.

Love bombed?

"We need more people like you." "Transgenders thank you." "You're awesome." etc.
He's just mad most people aren't siding with him.
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Postby Isles of the United Armed Forces » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:20 pm

Conkerials wrote:
Isles of the United Armed Forces wrote:Love bombed?

"We need more people like you." "Transgenders thank you." "You're awesome." etc.
He's just mad most people aren't siding with him.

Ah I see.
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The Count of Monte Cristo
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Postby The Count of Monte Cristo » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:22 pm

Isles of the United Armed Forces wrote:
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Brace to get love-bombed.

Love bombed?


You´ll be showered with affection, after what you said. The resident queer community loves it.

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Isles of the United Armed Forces
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Postby Isles of the United Armed Forces » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:29 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Isles of the United Armed Forces wrote:Love bombed?


You´ll be showered with affection, after what you said. The resident queer community loves it.

Well I see no need for "love bombing" because all I did was give my opinion.
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Postby Nerotysia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:36 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Isles of the United Armed Forces wrote:Love bombed?


You´ll be showered with affection, after what you said. The resident queer community loves it.

And you made this unbelievably brilliant and poignant observation because...?

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The Count of Monte Cristo
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Postby The Count of Monte Cristo » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:45 pm

Nerotysia wrote:
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
You´ll be showered with affection, after what you said. The resident queer community loves it.

And you made this unbelievably brilliant and poignant observation because...?


Because that kind of unwitting support is exactly what they´re looking for.

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Isles of the United Armed Forces
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Postby Isles of the United Armed Forces » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:52 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Nerotysia wrote:And you made this unbelievably brilliant and poignant observation because...?


Because that kind of unwitting support is exactly what they´re looking for.

What I said was not unwitting at the slightest.
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Nerotysia
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Postby Nerotysia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:54 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Nerotysia wrote:And you made this unbelievably brilliant and poignant observation because...?


Because that kind of unwitting support is exactly what they´re looking for.

Exactly what who is looking for? And who cares? This does not contribute to the debate at all and is useless ad hominem.

And I wouldn't call it unwitting support. It's likely a well-reasoned position after at least some thought.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:02 pm

Isles of the United Armed Forces wrote:
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
You´ll be showered with affection, after what you said. The resident queer community loves it.

Well I see no need for "love bombing" because all I did was give my opinion.


For people who are used to being put down, it is nice to know not everyone is against you. That is the reason we thank people. Because at this point, it is still unusual. It is precisely because your opinion calls for tolerance that people thank you.
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Cyrisnia
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Postby Cyrisnia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:08 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Nerotysia wrote:And you made this unbelievably brilliant and poignant observation because...?


Because that kind of unwitting support is exactly what they´re looking for.

People like support, regardless.
Kinda like how you're not liking getting enough people to like what you like, and like it how you like it.
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Postby Isles of the United Armed Forces » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:21 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Isles of the United Armed Forces wrote:Well I see no need for "love bombing" because all I did was give my opinion.


For people who are used to being put down, it is nice to know not everyone is against you. That is the reason we thank people. Because at this point, it is still unusual. It is precisely because your opinion calls for tolerance that people thank you.

Thats an intereasting way of putting it. But as much as I appreciate other peoples thanks I dont need to be thanked for where I stand and who I stick up for, and as for other peoples tolerance I honestly dont care, if they dont like my opinion on something they can get over it.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:36 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Nerotysia wrote:And you made this unbelievably brilliant and poignant observation because...?


Because that kind of unwitting support is exactly what they´re looking for.


It's not unwitting. Believe it or not, people know when they're supporting the queer community and still choose to do so.
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Postby Conkerials » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:37 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Because that kind of unwitting support is exactly what they´re looking for.


It's not unwitting. Believe it or not, people know when they're supporting the queer community and still choose to do so.

I can only imagine otherwise.

"Yeah, I support this and that and blah blah blah."

"We're talking about transgenders."

"Oh, nevermind then."
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:46 pm

Isles of the United Armed Forces wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
For people who are used to being put down, it is nice to know not everyone is against you. That is the reason we thank people. Because at this point, it is still unusual. It is precisely because your opinion calls for tolerance that people thank you.

Thats an intereasting way of putting it. But as much as I appreciate other peoples thanks I dont need to be thanked for where I stand and who I stick up for, and as for other peoples tolerance I honestly dont care, if they dont like my opinion on something they can get over it.


I was just explaining why people will respond well to such comments. You don't need it, and it is possible you don't want it, but for people who deal with such discrimination daily, having someone say they don't care is a relief. There will hopefully come a time when such discrimination will stop being so prevalent, and such thanks will stop coming.
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