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How do you feel about transgender persons?

I have no problem with it.
339
54%
It's a little odd but it's none of my business.
173
27%
It makes me uncomfortable.
34
5%
I think it's wrong and/or unnatural.
86
14%
 
Total votes : 632

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Mesrane
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Postby Mesrane » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:44 pm

I do not have a real issue with Transgenders, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit weirded out by it.
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The Count of Monte Cristo
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Postby The Count of Monte Cristo » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:46 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Antarticaria wrote:ehm I think we should Xnay on the Non Transgender talk. :unsure:

Fine.


You people still have transgender stuff to talk about ? Amazing. I´m beginning to believe you want to become women, honest - you already talk as much.

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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:46 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Arkolon wrote:If farmers owned land, it was capitalism.

No, communal ownership != private property.

I think your accounting is vastly over-simplistic, idolized, takes no accounting of the diversity of practice within even single, small regions of the Americas, and commits the sin of viewing these civilizations as static systems rather then dynamic, living traditions, and I think you should stop because it's embarrassing, and because it's not the topic.
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Degenerate Heart of HetRio
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:47 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:You people still have transgender stuff to talk about ? Amazing. I´m beginning to believe you want to become women, honest - you already talk as much.

Well, the whole point to me was that this man identity is gray, boring, not like me, and not what I feel as being truly me, so no shit.
Last edited by Degenerate Heart of HetRio on Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Kelinfort
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:48 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Fine.


You people still have transgender stuff to talk about ? Amazing. I´m beginning to believe you want to become women, honest - you already talk as much.

Hey, you know, you should read my sources I gave you.

No?

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Degenerate Heart of HetRio
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:49 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:No, communal ownership != private property.

I think your accounting is vastly over-simplistic, idolized, takes no accounting of the diversity of practice within even single, small regions of the Americas, and commits the sin of viewing these civilizations as static systems rather then dynamic, living traditions, and I think you should stop because it's embarrassing, and because it's not the topic.

I was over-simplistic because it was a final consideration. Could've TG'd. :P
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Conkerials
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Postby Conkerials » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:49 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
You people still have transgender stuff to talk about ? Amazing. I´m beginning to believe you want to become women, honest - you already talk as much.

Hey, you know, you should read my sources I gave you.

No?

Maybe he doesn't read so well?
I'm just me
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:51 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Fine.


You people still have transgender stuff to talk about ? Amazing. I´m beginning to believe you want to become women, honest - you already talk as much.

There's a quote from Napoleon to the effect of, "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." Still, I do feel obliged to stop you, and thank you for so casually handing us the high ground.
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Cyrisnia
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Postby Cyrisnia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:52 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Fine.


You people still have transgender stuff to talk about ? Amazing. I´m beginning to believe you want to become women, honest - you already talk as much.

Thats...kinda offensive.


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Veceria
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Postby Veceria » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:53 pm

Transpeople are da bes.
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10,000,000th post.
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Then suddenly fights broke out because hey, it's the internet.

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Liriena
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Postby Liriena » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:53 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Fine.


You people still have transgender stuff to talk about ? Amazing. I´m beginning to believe you want to become women, honest - you already talk as much.

I sure love a man who is not ashamed of being openly sexist.
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


⚧Copy and paste this in your sig
if you passed biology and know
gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧

I disown most of my previous posts

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Liriena
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Postby Liriena » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:54 pm

Veceria wrote:Transpeople are da bes.

It is known.
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


⚧Copy and paste this in your sig
if you passed biology and know
gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧

I disown most of my previous posts

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Degenerate Heart of HetRio
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:54 pm

Liriena wrote:I sure love a man who is not ashamed of being openly sexist.

Honestly, was anyone surprised? O.o
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:55 pm

Liriena wrote:
Veceria wrote:Transpeople are da bes.

It is known.

Every time you do this I chuckle. Damn you.
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Veceria
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Postby Veceria » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:56 pm

Liriena wrote:
Veceria wrote:Transpeople are da bes.

It is known.

And written in the holy book of cookies.
[FT]|Does not use NS stats.
Zeth Rekia wrote:You making Zeno horny.

DesAnges wrote:People don't deserve respect, they earn it.

10,000,000th post.
FoxTropica wrote:And then Hurdegaryp kissed Thafoo, Meanwhile Fox-Mary-"Sue"-Tropica saved TET from destruction and everyone happily forever.

Then suddenly fights broke out because hey, it's the internet.

Hurd is Hurd is Hurd.
Discord: Fenrisúlfr#3521
(send me a TG before sending me a friend request though)
I'm Austrian, if you need german translations, feel free to send me a TG.

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Degenerate Heart of HetRio
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:56 pm

Liriena wrote:
Veceria wrote:Transpeople are da bes.

It is known.

You should've told me more about this pansexual identity, it sure feels hell more comfortable and rad when these statements are made.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Conkerials
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Postby Conkerials » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:56 pm

Veceria wrote:
Liriena wrote:It is known.

And written in the holy book of cookies.

But only the dark side has cookies.
I'm just me
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Economic Left
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

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Mesrane
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Postby Mesrane » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:57 pm

Conkerials wrote:
Veceria wrote:And written in the holy book of cookies.

But only the dark side has cookies.

Untruth. Sugar cookies are the undisputed tool of light.

Get with it :p
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The Count of Monte Cristo
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Postby The Count of Monte Cristo » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:57 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:You people still have transgender stuff to talk about ? Amazing. I´m beginning to believe you want to become women, honest - you already talk as much.

Well, the whole point to me was that this man identity is gray, boring, not like me, and not what I feel as being truly me, so no shit.


I believe you, in a strange kind of way. You sound like you´re honest to yourself. You have been pretty blunt about it the whole thread.
An honest, true blunt trauma.

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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:58 pm

Conkerials wrote:
Veceria wrote:And written in the holy book of cookies.

But only the dark side has cookies.

Only a Sith speaks in absolutes. :p
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Veceria
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Postby Veceria » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:58 pm

Conkerials wrote:
Veceria wrote:And written in the holy book of cookies.

But only the dark side has cookies.

No, they actually lied about that. Ask the Cookie Monster.
[FT]|Does not use NS stats.
Zeth Rekia wrote:You making Zeno horny.

DesAnges wrote:People don't deserve respect, they earn it.

10,000,000th post.
FoxTropica wrote:And then Hurdegaryp kissed Thafoo, Meanwhile Fox-Mary-"Sue"-Tropica saved TET from destruction and everyone happily forever.

Then suddenly fights broke out because hey, it's the internet.

Hurd is Hurd is Hurd.
Discord: Fenrisúlfr#3521
(send me a TG before sending me a friend request though)
I'm Austrian, if you need german translations, feel free to send me a TG.

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Conkerials
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Postby Conkerials » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:59 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Conkerials wrote:But only the dark side has cookies.

Only a Sith speaks in absolutes. :p

Is that not an absolute? ;)
I'm just me
Compass
Economic Left
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:59 pm

Veceria wrote:
Conkerials wrote:But only the dark side has cookies.

No, they actually lied about that. Ask the Cookie Monster.

He's actually a larval Rancor.
Great Sage, Equal of Heaven.

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Degenerate Heart of HetRio
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:00 pm

Sun Wukong stopped liking me. :P
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:00 pm

Conkerials wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Only a Sith speaks in absolutes. :p

Is that not an absolute? ;)

*Kills Conkerials with lightning*

Yes.
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