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Postby The UK in Exile » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:18 am

Couasia wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:doesn't make this important.

Because a $93bn industry isn't important to our economy. Okay.


This isn't important to a 93bn dollar industry.

This isn't important. Period.
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Postby Rupudska » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:18 am

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The UK in Exile wrote:doesn't make this important.

Because a $93bn industry isn't important to our economy. Okay.


$93 bil isn't even a drop in the bucket compared to America's GDP, and the game is f2p.
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Postby Threlizdun » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:19 am

Yeah, I tend not to trust the rants of angry exes who create blogs specifically for attacking their former partners. I especially tend not to trust those who appear to be trying to prove that women are awful people and incapable of working in certain professions.
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Postby Spoder » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:20 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Couasia wrote:Because a $93bn industry isn't important to our economy. Okay.


This isn't important to a 93bn dollar industry.

This isn't important. Period.

So it doesn't matter that a 93bn dollar industry is being corrupted by a woman fucking her way to a good reputation?
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Postby Rupudska » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:20 am

Threlizdun wrote:Yeah, I tend not to trust the rants of angry exes who create blogs specifically for attacking their former partners. I especially tend not to trust those who appear to be trying to prove that women are awful people and incapable of working in certain professions.


They're perfectly capable. But judging by a) how this particular woman responds to criticism (regardless of how based it is) and b) her game being extremely boring, she isn't capable.
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Postby Agritum » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:20 am

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Couasia wrote:here come the strawmen arguments


He's right though.

However, the future of women in the gaming industry has/is/will take a pretty goddamn huge blow over this.

The amounts of drama and sexist clusterfuck being thrown around kinda gives me the feel there was no hope for that anyways.

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Postby Gravlen » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:21 am

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Gauthier wrote:So, what's the point of this story besides implying that the neckbeards are justified in stating the only position women should have in the video game industry are being literal sex objects?

The fact that she cheated on someone with 5 guys just to get her game good reviews?

Can you do better than the OP and actually provide evidence backing up your statement?

None of the links provided thus far seems to corroborate your claim that sexual favours were traded for good reviews.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:21 am

Spoder wrote:It's unbelievable that anybody is defending Zoe Quinn.

It's unbelievable that a woman having sex should make it onto the news.

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Postby Couasia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:21 am

Spoder wrote:So it doesn't matter that a 93bn dollar industry is being corrupted by a woman fucking her way to a good reputation?

this

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:21 am

Couasia wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:doesn't make this important.

Because a $93bn industry isn't important to our economy. Okay.

Don't worry, I'm gonna buy Dishonored later in the evening. That should cover all the losses the games industry will make from this "incident". I'll even get the GOTY edition and add a few euros.


Spoder wrote:It's unbelievable that anybody is defending Zoe Quinn.

It's all too believable that people who aren't personally involved with Zoe Quinn give a fuck who she has sex with.
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:22 am

Rupudska wrote:
Couasia wrote:here come the strawmen arguments


He's right though.

However, the future of women in the gaming industry has/is/will take a pretty goddamn huge blow over this.

Why?

Because the hostility towards females in the gaming industry feeds off of its own manufactured rage?
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:22 am

Spoder wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
This isn't important to a 93bn dollar industry.

This isn't important. Period.

So it doesn't matter that a 93bn dollar industry is being corrupted by a woman fucking her way to a good reputation?

Allegedly. Facts don't matter to you though, do they?
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:22 am

Spoder wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
This isn't important to a 93bn dollar industry.

This isn't important. Period.

So it doesn't matter that a 93bn dollar industry is being corrupted by a woman fucking her way to a good reputation?

Over a f2p game on the internet that doesn't matter at all? Yep.

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Postby The UK in Exile » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:23 am

Spoder wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
This isn't important to a 93bn dollar industry.

This isn't important. Period.

So it doesn't matter that a 93bn dollar industry is being corrupted by a woman fucking her way to a good reputation?


If thats what was happening. but it isn't.
If five journalists were being corrupted it would be important but it isn't.
"Woman has sex" is what happened. and it isn't.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:23 am

Threlizdun wrote:Yeah, I tend not to trust the rants of angry exes who create blogs specifically for attacking their former partners. I especially tend not to trust those who appear to be trying to prove that women are awful people and incapable of working in certain professions.

Well that is just misandry of the highest order, you misandering misanderiser!
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:23 am

Spoder wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
This isn't important to a 93bn dollar industry.

This isn't important. Period.

So it doesn't matter that a 93bn dollar industry is being corrupted by a woman fucking her way to a good reputation?

Must be a fragile industry if this can corrupt it.

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Postby Gravlen » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:23 am

Spoder wrote:It's unbelievable that anybody is defending Zoe Quinn.

Especially considering how Kristen Stewart brought down all of Hollywood...
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Postby Rupudska » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:24 am

Agritum wrote:
Rupudska wrote:
He's right though.

However, the future of women in the gaming industry has/is/will take a pretty goddamn huge blow over this.

The amounts of drama and sexist clusterfuck being thrown around kinda gives me the feel there was no hope for that anyways.


There was a lot of drama and sexist clusterfuckery in the Japanese animu and mango industry when Rumiko Takahashi started printing in the late 70s.

She's now one of if not the richest wome/an in Japan, and almost certainly the richest mangaka.

That is how you fight sexism in a male-dominated industry. By being better than your peers.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:24 am

Couasia wrote:
Sciongrad wrote:My point was that the entire gaming community has gone up in arms over the actions of one girl, going so far as sending death threats, rape threats, harassing family members, friends, and family members of friends just because she had sex with some journalists.

Nope, it's that she used sex to advance her professional career and generate positive press for her games, when in reality she is at best a mediocre developer. Nice try.


I find it hilarious that you think (at least, your tone and rabidity indicates) that this is literally the worst thing to happen to gaming, ever. And that somehow "game journalism" is less credible now than it was before.

All that happened was a chick cheated on her boyfriend by fucking a few guys. Guys who are basically whores for the gaming industry.

So what if she "traded sex for good reviews"? What's the big fucking difference between fucking for a good review, and paying money for it?
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:24 am

Seriously, how the fuck did this thread get seven pages deep? Why the fuck are people committed to believing this woman's fucking EX-BOYFRIEND? You know, someone with obvious motivations for lying?
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:27 am

Scomagia wrote:Seriously, how the fuck did this thread get seven pages deep? Why the fuck are people committed to believing this woman's fucking EX-BOYFRIEND? You know, someone with obvious motivations for lying?

Because woman had sex, that's why. Just goes to show why women shouldn't be doing [insert profession here].
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Postby Spoder » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:27 am

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Couasia wrote:Nope, it's that she used sex to advance her professional career and generate positive press for her games, when in reality she is at best a mediocre developer. Nice try.


I find it hilarious that you think (at least, your tone and rabidity indicates) that this is literally the worst thing to happen to gaming, ever. And that somehow "game journalism" is less credible now than it was before.

All that happened was a chick cheated on her boyfriend by fucking a few guys. Guys who are basically whores for the gaming industry.

So what if she "traded sex for good reviews"? What's the big fucking difference between fucking for a good review, and paying money for it?

Well it just provides a new way for people to further corrupt a corrupt industry.
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Postby Fortis Bellator » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:27 am

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:27 am

Gravlen wrote:
Spoder wrote:It's unbelievable that anybody is defending Zoe Quinn.

Especially considering how Kristen Stewart brought down all of Hollywood...

I haven't seen a movie in so long. When will the women learn, Gravlen? How many industries must we lose?


Scomagia wrote:Seriously, how the fuck did this thread get seven pages deep? Why the fuck are people committed to believing this woman's fucking EX-BOYFRIEND? You know, someone with obvious motivations for lying?

Because bitches ain't shit but hos and tricks.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:28 am

Gravlen wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:The fact that she cheated on someone with 5 guys just to get her game good reviews?

Can you do better than the OP and actually provide evidence backing up your statement?

None of the links provided thus far seems to corroborate your claim that sexual favours were traded for good reviews.

Man I don't even know where to start :\

I've seen numerous videos, I'll check again to see links.

I have seen Reddit be mad at this due to supposed censorship (With a reddit gaming mod being involved, but I'm not sure if he was called out on it or anything, I'm sure said mod censoring just didn't want the controversy of the issue to taint reddit.)

Honestly if you want me to source fictional things, I'll handle that much easier, not so good with rl issues.
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