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Postby Snjorlandio » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:36 am

Its funny to see all the White Knights defending Zoe Quinn and straw manning those who criticise her and her actions.

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Postby The UK in Exile » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:37 am

The weird thing is Ms quinn produced a game. A product that stands and falls on its own merits. These journalists literally had one thing they could sell - their honest opinion. Sleeping with reviewers doesn't make Quinn a bad developer but it sure as he'll makes them bad journalists.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:37 am

Gravlen wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Seriously, how the fuck did this thread get seven pages deep? Why the fuck are people committed to believing this woman's fucking EX-BOYFRIEND? You know, someone with obvious motivations for lying?

Because woman had sex, that's why. Just goes to show why women shouldn't be doing [insert profession here].

I'm sure it isn't

"Women had sex"

Its

"Women had sex to get ahead in an industry."

I don't care if you are a man or a woman, you do that and you're corrupt.

This is all an allegation though, I have no clue overall.

Oh and I found one video with links around the issue, wish it was Thunder00t though instead...that dude links like a mofo from what I recall.
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Postby Fortis Bellator » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:37 am

Ifreann wrote:
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If only people could read the name of the thread. This isn't a discussion on Ebola. This isn't a discussion on Ukraine. This is a discussion on a topic many of us care about. (read care about a lot. ) So if you want to go discuss Ukraine (or what you really want, a flame battle between the Russian side and the EU/USA/Ukraine side.) then go find a thread catering to that. But this isn't for discussion of that, it's for discussion of the stated topic, so stop going off topic.

You shouldn't care about this a lot. You shouldn't care about this at all, unless you are personally involved with Zoe Quinn, her ex, or the others involved in this relationship drama. Or if you are one of those people.



I care about the fact that any gaming journalism website can be bought out. Websites like Kotaku and IGN, and numerous forums are so heavily biased theirall articles read like an opinion piece. I think it'll snow in hell the day IGN gives call of duty a negative review and the day Kotaku stops posting irrelevant-to-gaming articles about how "wimmin r soooooo prejudiced against in the gaming industry. "
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:38 am

Scomagia wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Tempting, but all the sex is happening here...

Maybe I can get my wife to bring her friends.

Space Orgy: The Movie! 8)
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Postby Couasia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:39 am

Gravlen wrote:Space Orgy: The Movie! 8)

What the fuck?

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Postby Grenartia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:39 am

Spoder wrote:
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I find it hilarious that you think (at least, your tone and rabidity indicates) that this is literally the worst thing to happen to gaming, ever. And that somehow "game journalism" is less credible now than it was before.

All that happened was a chick cheated on her boyfriend by fucking a few guys. Guys who are basically whores for the gaming industry.

So what if she "traded sex for good reviews"? What's the big fucking difference between fucking for a good review, and paying money for it?

Well it just provides a new way for people to further corrupt a corrupt industry.


:roll:

As if some two-bit developer fucking 5 game journalists could possibly measurably corrupt the entire field of game journalism more than it already is corrupt.
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Postby Spoder » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:39 am

Gravlen wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:Okay look, its not that bad.

Allegedly, someone cheated on their boyfriend with 5 guys to get favorable reviews in a game that many say is complete shit.


Absolutelyy full disclosure: I have not had sex since this thread started.

Wow. How do you do it?

I can't manage five minutes without a -REDACTED- on my -REDACTED-.

I think the general consensus is that Zoe Quinn is a filthy whore, but it doesn't change gaming journalism much.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:39 am

Gravlen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I haven't seen a movie in so long. When will the women learn, Gravlen? How many industries must we lose?

We'll always have the music industry, at least. Musicians will always be faithful, and music journalism will never be corrupted!

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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:39 am

Gravlen wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:Okay look, its not that bad.

Allegedly, someone cheated on their boyfriend with 5 guys to get favorable reviews in a game that many say is complete shit.

Where are these favourable reviews anyway?

Full disclosure: I just played through the game while participating in this thread. It's not great, but it is an interesting look at depression. It could be useful to raise awareness and understanding, but it's not exactly recreational.

Absolutelyy full disclosure: I have not had sex since this thread started.

I don't know the sites, I heard one may be Kotaku or something...

I don't know if she is guilty or what, I think she may be, but I'm still waiting to look at a lot of the links about it.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:39 am

Gravlen wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Maybe I can get my wife to bring her friends.

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Postby Padnak » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:39 am

To the people defending Zoe Quinn, if you could kindly pull your head out of your ass it would greatly improve your perception of the situation

I don't care if Zoe used money, an offer of a beach vacation or sex to sway the opinion of games journalists, its wrong. Thats what people are taking issue with, its the fact that she uses backdoor shady ways of gaining good press and favour with games journalists while also acting like a massive hypocrite
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:40 am

Snjorlandio wrote:Its funny to see all the White Knights defending Zoe Quinn and straw manning those who criticise her and her actions.

It's funny to see people taking someone's ex-boyfriend at their word about how "slutty" they are without any......what's the word? I'm always forgetting it when it's least convenient. Come on Scomagia, think!

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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:40 am

The men named should all be ashamed and either be fired or step down. Hopefully the wife of Joshua Boggs divorces his ass.

Zoe Quinn should also feel ashamed for actions and her game removed from Steam for the time being.

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Postby Couasia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:40 am

Snjorlandio wrote:Its funny to see all the White Knights defending Zoe Quinn and straw manning those who criticise her and her actions.

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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:41 am

Meanwhile in Iraq...
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:41 am

Padnak wrote:To the people defending Zoe Quinn, if you could kindly pull your head out of your ass it would greatly improve your perception of the situation

I don't care if Zoe used money, an offer of a beach vacation or sex to sway the opinion of games journalists, its wrong. Thats what people are taking issue with, its the fact that she uses backdoor shady ways of gaining good press and favour with games journalists while also acting like a massive hypocrite

And you have proof that she swayed the opinions of journalists?

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Postby Fortis Bellator » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:41 am

Greater Mackonia wrote:Meanwhile in Iraq...


Meanwhile that's off topic and not what this bloody thread is about...
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:42 am

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Scomagia wrote:Maybe I can get my wife to bring her friends.

Space Orgy: The Movie! 8)

That will be the basis of our economy! We'll film it and sell the videos to aliens!
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:42 am

Padnak wrote:To the people defending Zoe Quinn, if you could kindly pull your head out of your ass it would greatly improve your perception of the situation

I don't care if Zoe used money, an offer of a beach vacation or sex to sway the opinion of games journalists, its wrong. Thats what people are taking issue with, its the fact that she uses backdoor shady ways of gaining good press and favour with games journalists while also acting like a massive hypocrite

All I really give a damn about is if the game is good. It isn't.

Also, we have evidence from Kotaku at least one of her ex's claimed journalists, Nathan Grayson, never reviewed her game or gave a positive review on any of her work.

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Postby The UK in Exile » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:42 am

Padnak wrote:To the people defending Zoe Quinn, if you could kindly pull your head out of your ass it would greatly improve your perception of the situation

I don't care if Zoe used money, an offer of a beach vacation or sex to sway the opinion of games journalists, its wrong. Thats what people are taking issue with, its the fact that she uses backdoor shady ways of gaining good press and favour with games journalists while also acting like a massive hypocrite

So get mad at the journalists. No supply without demand. Though we've certainly managed convication without evidence.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:42 am

Napkiraly wrote:The men named should all be ashamed and either be fired or step down. Hopefully the wife of Joshua Boggs divorces his ass.

Zoe Quinn should also feel ashamed for actions and her game removed from Steam for the time being.

I don't think it's legal to marry an ass in the first place. :p

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Postby Spoder » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:42 am

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Gravlen wrote:Space Orgy: The Movie! 8)

In space no one can hear you scream.

O_o

While I see this as harmless fun, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody saw this as taking it too far...

A friendly warning to beware of people who are more sensitive about that.
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Postby Fortis Bellator » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:43 am

Merizoc wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:The men named should all be ashamed and either be fired or step down. Hopefully the wife of Joshua Boggs divorces his ass.

Zoe Quinn should also feel ashamed for actions and her game removed from Steam for the time being.

I don't think it's legal to marry an ass in the first place. :p


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Postby Scomagia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:43 am

Napkiraly wrote:The men named should all be ashamed and either be fired or step down. Hopefully the wife of Joshua Boggs divorces his ass.

Zoe Quinn should also feel ashamed for actions and her game removed from Steam for the time being.

Considering that there's no evidence that any of this is true, the men shouldn't be ashamed or be fired, Boggs wife shouldn't divorce him, and Zoe Quinn shouldn't feel ashamed or have her game removed.
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