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Female game dev Zoe Quinn sleeps her way to the top: scandal

Postby Couasia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:27 am

Zoe Quinn is the indie game developer behind “Depression Quest,” a game that shows what it is like to live with depression. Originally, in developing the game and trying to get it posted to Steam, Quinn became internet famous for being harassed by trolls and the 4chan crowd — a problem that routinely seems to accompany girls involved in gaming.

Now the trolls are feeling justified in their smugness because Quinn’s one-time boyfriend just posted a series of blogs that indicate (with proof) that Quinn has been involved in a series of affairs with prominent members of the gaming community, including her boss and a writer for Kotaku.


tl;dr: Female game dev slept with five (possibly more) game journalists, site admins etc in exchange for positive press on prominent gaming websites and forums, and was exposed by her ex.

I think that this will affect game journalism as a whole. Right now, we as gamers don't know who exactly she had contact with (or had sex with), so now that this scandal has broken out, we can't trust anyone anymore. She's using sex to control the gaming industry and punish those who are even so much as slightly critical of her. This is both damning for the industry as a whole and something that should not happen, under any circumstances.

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Postby Murkwood » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:30 am

Bitch.

That's really all one needs to say.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:41 am

No doubt this will spell the doom of video gaming in its entirety.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:46 am

I wonder how many men have slept/blown/jerked/otherwise pleasured others their way to the top in the gaming industry.

Ifreann wrote:No doubt this will spell the doom of video gaming in its entirety.


Quite.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:47 am

Disgusting.

Everyone knows the only legitimate way to influence gaming journalism is with money.
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Postby Murkwood » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:48 am

Grenartia wrote:I wonder how many men have slept/blown/jerked/otherwise pleasured others their way to the top in the gaming industry.

Ifreann wrote:No doubt this will spell the doom of video gaming in its entirety.


Quite.

Seeing how few women are in the journalism industry, probably not many.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:50 am

Murkwood wrote:
Grenartia wrote:I wonder how many men have slept/blown/jerked/otherwise pleasured others their way to the top in the gaming industry.



Quite.

Seeing how few women are in the journalism industry, probably not many.


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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:51 am

The UK in Exile wrote:Disgusting.

Everyone knows the only legitimate way to influence gaming journalism is with money.

Or hookers and blow.
It is a man's world, after all.

Seriously though, this is everything wrong with gaming. Not Quinn's actions, the backlash. The backlash itself may be "justifiable", the sexist vitriol is not.
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Postby Kengran » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:51 am

... Wow. Talks about "Depression Quest," but she's making love with a crapton of guys, by her choice.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:51 am

…..I change my mind. This is even less newsworthy than the thread yesterday.

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Postby Couasia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:52 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:Seriously though, this is everything wrong with gaming. Not Quinn's actions, the backlash.

So now it's okay to corrupt several major gaming sites' management teams with sex, just because you have a vagina?

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:52 am

Grenartia wrote:I wonder how many men have slept/blown/jerked/otherwise pleasured others their way to the top in the gaming industry.

Silly Gren, it's only bad when women do it.

Ifreann wrote:No doubt this will spell the doom of video gaming in its entirety.


Quite.

I've already started deleting all my games.


Kengran wrote:... Wow. Talks about "Depression Quest," but she's making love with a crapton of guys, by her choice.

So?
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Postby Murkwood » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:53 am

Grenartia wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Seeing how few women are in the journalism industry, probably not many.


What does that have to do with what I said?

Well, how else...

Oh. My.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:55 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:Disgusting.

Everyone knows the only legitimate way to influence gaming journalism is with money.

Or hookers and blow.
It is a man's world, after all.

Seriously though, this is everything wrong with gaming. Not Quinn's actions, the backlash. The backlash itself may be "justifiable", the sexist vitriol is not.


The backlash isn't justifiable either. If your gonna have a backlash, it should be against the five journalists who were prepared to break whatever notional ethical guidelines video games journalism has for sex. But just the phrase "ethical guidelines for video games journalism" indicates how ridiculous the story is. Essentially "Woman who likes video games sleeps with men who like video games".
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:55 am

Clearly this is hard evidence wimmen should GTFO the video game industry and stick to being fetishized trophies that the manly men rescue. *nod nod*
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Postby Kengran » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:55 am

Ifreann wrote:
Grenartia wrote:I wonder how many men have slept/blown/jerked/otherwise pleasured others their way to the top in the gaming industry.

Silly Gren, it's only bad when women do it.


Quite.

I've already started deleting all my games.


Kengran wrote:... Wow. Talks about "Depression Quest," but she's making love with a crapton of guys, by her choice.

So?



I'm not entirely sure if sleeping your way to the top is something "depressive" on the moment. I mean, you get a crapton of power and positive views, don't you? Well, until it gets revealed. And then it's another story.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:57 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:Disgusting.

Everyone knows the only legitimate way to influence gaming journalism is with money.

Or hookers and blow.
It is a man's world, after all.

Seriously though, this is everything wrong with gaming. Not Quinn's actions, the backlash. The backlash itself may be "justifiable", the sexist vitriol is not.


Exactly.

Kengran wrote:... Wow. Talks about "Depression Quest," but she's making love with a crapton of guys, by her choice.


Depression =/= not being able to have sex with people. This should be a plainly fucking obvious fact.

Couasia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Seriously though, this is everything wrong with gaming. Not Quinn's actions, the backlash.

So now it's okay to corrupt several major gaming sites' management teams with sex, just because you have a vagina?


How you get that from what IR said is absolutely beyond me.

Ifreann wrote:Silly Gren, it's only bad when women do it.


Obviously. How could I have forgotten? :roll:

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Grenartia wrote:
What does that have to do with what I said?

Well, how else...

Oh. My.


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Postby Organized States » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:58 am

Couasia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Seriously though, this is everything wrong with gaming. Not Quinn's actions, the backlash.

So now it's okay to corrupt several major gaming sites' management teams with sex, just because you have a vagina?

Not many of these guys are what one might call ladies' men.

Plus, of course, I've barely seen anything other than this on her game.
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Postby The An Xileel » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:00 am

They should be ashamed of themselves.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:01 am

Look, it takes at least two to have sex, it is the men's fault for not having more self control. If they can't resist having sex, they probably don't deserve the positions they have.
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Postby Upper America » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:01 am

Exactly how is this news? She slept with a bunch of guys from major gaming sites, so what? This is why most people are so ignorant of the big problems the world faces, like Ukraine, Ebola, and ISIS. We focus on harassing one game developer because she *gasp* had sex! Sure, it was to cheat her way to the top, but really? Why should we give her our attention? Perhaps we should work on stopping genocidal organizations, stabilizing Ukraine, and curing diseases. Not to mention fixing everything that's wrong with the government.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:01 am

The An Xileel wrote:That woman should be ashamed of herself.

Ooh, look, sexism!

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Merizoc wrote:
The An Xileel wrote:That woman should be ashamed of herself.

Ooh, look, sexism!


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Postby Organized States » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:02 am

Socialist Tera wrote:Look, it takes at least two to have sex, it is the men's fault for not having more self control. If they can't resist having sex, they probably don't deserve the positions they have.

Are you suggesting that people can't hold jobs because they lust? Even when this is a naturally occurring trait?
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